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offline Quaristice on 2009-02-01 13:17 [#02268991]
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They are trying to teach me evolution at school. It's such
nonsense! I don't believe that we came from nothing, just by
accident. If we evolved from monkeys, why do monkeys still
exist?

The communists were evolutionists. Hitler was an
evolutionist. The evil writer of 'The God Delusion' is an
evolutionist.

You can stick your Godless theory where the sun don't shine.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 13:19 [#02268996]
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The truth is indifferent to what your feeble mind
believes, so believe whatever the hell you want.


 

offline Quaristice on 2009-02-01 13:21 [#02268997]
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There is no proof of evolution. It is just a theory.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-02-01 13:21 [#02268998]
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america


 

offline Quaristice on 2009-02-01 13:22 [#02268999]
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UK


 

offline Quaristice on 2009-02-01 13:26 [#02269000]
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life was created by God as a test for humans who have free
will, i.e., the ability to choose. Humans are required to
have iman (belief and conviction in and about God) and do
`amal (i.e., have their iman reflected in a righteous course
of conduct vis-à-vis God, fellow humans, and the
environment). The creation of humans, and their existence on
Earth(8), is a deliberate divine act not an unguided,
purposeless event.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-02-01 13:27 [#02269001]
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will you be quiet?


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2009-02-01 13:28 [#02269002]
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what the hell


 

offline Quaristice on 2009-02-01 13:29 [#02269003]
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mrMHlHnF6qo&feature=related


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 13:29 [#02269005]
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god is petty man. why would he be so hung up on us passing
his tests?


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 13:30 [#02269006]
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I guess you're being sarcastic/trolly and don't really not
believe in evolution, if I wrote that double negative
correctly.


 

offline hexane on 2009-02-01 13:37 [#02269012]
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God is the best mayne, he did it


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 13:38 [#02269013]
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he deed it


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 13:41 [#02269014]
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god is all like; you just lost the game.


 

offline hexane on 2009-02-01 13:42 [#02269015]
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step down, off the pedestal


 

offline cyrstal dude from LA all day! (United States) on 2009-02-01 16:02 [#02269081]
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i think they should teach evolution AND intelligent design
side by side at schools.

until scientists figure out which one is true, obvs.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 17:45 [#02269125]
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Are you from the deep South?

Do you post on XL while on a PC in a PC shop in the far
wealthier and better developed North America?

I am thinking yes.

Also, if you are so sure you right about evolution, why
bother posting this thread? I think it is because
subconsciously you know you are wrong and want to be
corrected by people who know better.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-01 17:46 [#02269126]
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I agree with you on thissun, man. :)


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 17:51 [#02269129]
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god bless you.
i bet you don't even maturbate


 

offline gingaling from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2009-02-01 17:56 [#02269131]
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beyond my realm of care. i'm here ur here, i dunno why the
fuck i'm here, dunno why the fuck ur here lets just get on
with things, hurry up and die and not ask silly questions
along the way.

how many bricks are there in the great wall of china?


 

offline music maker from St.Louis (United States) on 2009-02-01 17:59 [#02269132]
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this guy needs to be put in a prison where he isn't allowed
access to any technological acheivements of mankind


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:03 [#02269135]
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having a faith is fine, but they shouldn't "teach"
intelligent design at all because it relies on faith rather
than a testable scientific approach.

did you know there are more stars in our milky way galaxy
than grains of sand on the planet earth? many of which
likely have planetary systems like the ones we've just found
in nearby stars?

is one form of life (humans) really that special over others
(microbes)?


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 18:08 [#02269140]
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of course we are you silly plum. microbes just eat. why are
we so funny about ourselves? admit your importance. you are
a unique snowflake.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:12 [#02269145]
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but we all share the spark of life!


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 18:13 [#02269146]
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but our lives make and experience hate and love; sparks in
themselves that far surpass the pointless existence of bugs
and worms.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:18 [#02269149]
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I tend to see hate and love as MORE akin to the bugs and
other animals. It's more of an instinctive response that is
guided and checked by our own ego (the more human element).
If love is the "force" that guides us to protect our own and
"hate" to attack our enemies, then maybe emotion is an
insect is capable of, without the higher brain functions of
reason.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:19 [#02269151]
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*emotion is ALL an insect is capable of.

damnit.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2009-02-01 18:26 [#02269156]
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Lt. Cmdr. Data a cold, unfeeling machine, or more than the
sum of his parts?.

I love you data.


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 18:34 [#02269159]
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i mostly agree. love and hate are our most brutal basic
selves.
you can see it when you look around. look at something
anywhere around you and try to deny the sheer miracle that a
human made that or dreamt of it enough to want it there.
look at yourself and the way you hurt and smile and you
cannot actually say that the bug matters. it does but it's
nothing compared to us. we like totally rule


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2009-02-01 18:34 [#02269161]
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i'll look atit tomorrow


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2009-02-02 06:43 [#02269320]
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yeah, go to school and say: 'teach me evolution this fucking
ass'


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-02-02 14:27 [#02269399]
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>Quaristice
Everything is just a theory.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2009-02-02 15:40 [#02269421]
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Humans are required to
have iman


Attached picture

 

offline Powli from Lawrence, KS on 2009-02-02 16:28 [#02269432]
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Is this a joke?

You realize the theory of evolution is deeply researched and
has a plethora of information to back it up where as
creationism has...well, I guess it has some fantasy based
elements to back it up. So I guess it's got that going for
it.


 

offline Samuel L Jigsaw from swine flu central on 2009-02-02 16:59 [#02269442]
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The theory of intelligent design is disproved in the first
law of thermodynamics. Thank you and goodnight.


 

offline Tractern from Brighton (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-02 17:15 [#02269448]
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I don't need to, yo' mamma helps me out in that department.
:)


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2009-02-02 17:22 [#02269453]
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Evolution isn't a theory.

Monkeys are a different species to us, as are Giraffes.

Have a look at a fossil or read the origin of species.

There's no proof of a God.

Evolution doesn't mean there is no God.

You were winding us up right?


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-02-02 22:48 [#02269519]
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you should take this article to school with you.


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-02-05 08:02 [#02270113]
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Clearly evolution os lack of evidence. So perhaps if we find
eny gaps in evolution or creationism, we can suport one or
another theory.

What do you think about "first mover", which could suport
thory of creationism. Evrything in universe is moving, so by
theory of physics movements manifests movements, so there
must be first mover?

And do you realy think that onecell organisms cuold be
craeated randomly of some aminoacids? I think there was
other events which was crusial for life. In other words
something is mising.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2009-02-05 08:27 [#02270123]
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Don't you think that, yourself being an human, raised in a
completely human-centric environment, you're not being very
objective?
How does an objective hierarchy of beings work? Everything
there is is equally necessary, if only because it happened
to happen.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2009-02-05 09:22 [#02270136]
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i like to tell people that if they can tell me who god is,
i'll tell them whether or not i believe. but because i tend
to converse mostly with incoherent homeless people i haven't
yet gotten a satisfactory response. where we goes, nobody
knows.


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2009-02-05 11:02 [#02270172]
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Do you prefer metaphysical approach to this problem?


 

offline Advocate on 2009-02-05 11:05 [#02270173]
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god lol


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-02-05 21:10 [#02270361]
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did anyone read the article? one highlight, which is
relevant to this thread is:

Evolutionists often get so bogged down with trying to
discredit a proposed alternative, frequently with nothing
more than invectives, that they tend to walk away believing
evolution must still work.

The objective here, therefore, is to point out that
Darwinian evolution does not fall apart because a solution
being presented says it happened differently. The objective
here is to show that the mechanics of evolution are
incompatible with empirical evidence, verifiable science and
common sense, regardless of whatever else may or may not
take its place.


Quaristice, did you take it to school and show your teacher?
Also, did you play your teacher Quaristice?


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2009-02-06 01:24 [#02270371]
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Please watch this


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2009-02-06 01:51 [#02270374]
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what the fuck is that shit? evolution isnt a theory.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-06 02:02 [#02270376]
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lololol


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-06 02:10 [#02270378]
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I only read the first 1/8th, but 'Life results from the
non-random survival of randomly varying replicators'.
Yes, mutations are pseudorandom, but the selection process
isn't random.
ex: prey organisms of varying shades of white/black/gray
live in a black environment. Predator picks off the whitest
ones. Predator doesn't randomly pick off a grey one here and
a white or black one there.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2009-02-06 02:19 [#02270381]
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Or this was one of dawkins examples:

"This is a sentence."

random algorithm = try to create that sentence all in one
random swoop.

attempt 1:

ypjhnt wtj aqwtuy. wrong.

attempt 2:

mqbvoryooiqw rth. wrong.

...
evolution algorithm = use heredity

ikwtaoijtr aktpqfk. wrong.

w[h]weomkrkreao. wrong, but that h is in the right spot,
keep the h and continue.

y[h]oykalnpue[c]z...

etc until 'This is a sentence.' 2nd algorithm takes much
fewer generations.


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2009-02-06 02:53 [#02270384]
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i don't have a problem with the concept of evolution, just
the classic darwinian model.

i am ok with micro adaptations and even micro evolution
happening due to environment and circumstance, like wmw was
describing. what i do have a problem with is the idea of
random mutations complex enough to actually result in
speciation, planet formation, stars, sentient organisms with
consciousness, etc. like the article gets into, the fossil
record does not show the proportionate amount of mistakes
that would be necessary for new species to be generated by
random process, if thought about logically and you do the
math.

to me it seems ordered. even if certain processes appear
random on a micro level, on a macro level there is some kind
of system. evolution seems more like the stages of life,
seed to a tree, caterpillar to butterfly and so on. in
fact, it makes sense that if nature, life, & universe works
that way on the levels we know about, it probably works like
that way in the ways we haven't discovered yet. it is
probably something similar to the genetic code, and certain
things change or happen because they are supposed to, just
like your man puberty.

i don't think saying there is evidence of an order and a
system has to open the god can of worms. let those
questions be answered elsewhere. at the same time science
shouldn't gloss over or distort where the trail really leads
just because it wants to separate itself from religion. let
the evidence speak for itself.


 


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