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Jedi Chris
on 2002-03-29 10:01 [#00148698]
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Jedi Knight Outcast is launched here in the UK today....within a few hours - IT WILL BE MINE!!!!
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 10:03 [#00148700]
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huh?
i'm a trekkie more than a SW fan. i always thought it more intelligent, and just plain better... uh oh!!!!!!!!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:04 [#00148701]
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Yo, is it on PC, or on some console?
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-03-29 10:06 [#00148703]
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PC-CDROM
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:08 [#00148705]
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Fuck YEAH!!!! Hopefully, the pirates here will have it in a couple of weeks. Can't wait. Have you played Giants: Citizen Kabuto, Chris? I'm currently playing it and it's sucha great game!
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 10:09 [#00148707]
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DAMN YOU MEHO!!!!!!
you have to tell me where you get these pics...even though this one isn't as cool as the other ones iv'e seen in the past
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-03-29 10:11 [#00148709]
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Take a cold shower nanotech!! ;)
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:13 [#00148712]
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Ok, how about this one? I have a bunch of bondage pic on my HD but those are mostly poor quality. These I've dled from this danish webring that somebody here tipped us on a couple of days ago:www.degulepornosider.dk
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 10:15 [#00148713]
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i'm just saying that meho has great taste, it's not the fact that the pics are sexually explicit, it's the type of explicity...japanese merzbow style bondage. very tasteful, angsty, very artsy, and very powerful.
speaking of merzbow, if there are merzbow fans on this board, has anyone seen "paradise lost?" it's suposed to be the video where the excerpts that are on "Music for bondage performance 1" was the soundtrack to... i've check all over, and cna't find it....
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-03-29 10:18 [#00148714]
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: )
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:19 [#00148716]
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Holy shit, nanotech, you dig Merzbow? I've just burned merzbox sampler (ten tracks selected from merzbox) and can't seem to get it outta my discman. Merzbow is king.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:21 [#00148718]
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And how about this pic?
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 10:21 [#00148720]
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yes!!!!!
i do dig tha jap noise god masami akita...of course!!!!!
do you know where i can find a copy of that movie i was talking about eirler?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:24 [#00148722]
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Haven't heard of it, actually and the internet seems to have a ridiculously small amount of information on Akita. Shame... I'll try to look for it tho...
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-29 10:27 [#00148723]
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im going to buy a new pc in the summer so hopefully i will get it then. cant wait!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:28 [#00148726]
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It's funny I don't have any Star wars games, but I want to have Outcast. I looove FPS/ TPS stuff.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 10:30 [#00148727]
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yeah....very small amout...i was even subscribed to the merzbow yahoo egroup, and all they do is promote their own wanna be noise...i mean anyone out there with a tape recorder and a delay/distortion pedal is doing this...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:35 [#00148732]
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Yeah, shit I got sound forge two days ago and it took me no more than one hour to make a merzbow pastiche composition (made from a sample from citizen Kabuto opening sequence). But I'm not dumb enough to think it's any good and make it public. To be good you have to be insanely devoted, like Akita. That digital merzbow page was pretty good for scavanging album covers and tracklists, but no new entries for an awful long time...
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 10:38 [#00148734]
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i know what you mean... all merzbow sites are outdated....way outdated....
did you know that he strictly uses laptops now? i think he might do some old scholl stuff, but the buzz is that ppl don't like the digital stuff...personaly i haven't heard any so i'm indifrent...
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 10:39 [#00148736]
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sorry for ruining your thread jedi chris...but that's pretty interesting how these things evolve sometimes...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:41 [#00148739]
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Yeah, he bought a G3 to design cover artwork for merzbox and discovered that he can "have a one second merzbow sample and turn it into an hour of noise". So now his gigs are just like: he presses a button and sits, arms folded for an hour ("like an emperor", as told by Otomo Yoshihide). I haven't heard any of it either, but all the reviews in the wire were positive...
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-03-29 10:45 [#00148743]
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No worries - that's what its all about!
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 10:46 [#00148744]
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i thought of composing my own "noise box" out of various modules synth components in reaktor...it recouring problem i run into is:
1)i only have 96 mb mem 2)reaktor's sequencer's suck ass...MAJORLY!
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 10:56 [#00148749]
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Well, nanotech, funny that you mention this as Im currently reading this Stockhausen's interview dowwnloaded from Wire's site where he says that limitations actually make you more creative. With just limited resources you can think of ways to get maximum performance out of them, whereas with an infinity of, say, soundforge plug-ins you just spoil yourself for choice and don't even try too hard to explore what it is that certain plug-in can actually do. My own home music was mostly made of tape splicing, cutting-up, pause button editing and manipulation (scratch, reverse, etc.), plus with some "creative" sound recording with a cheap tape recorder, and I know a lot of people who did miracles with these techniques.. So, now that I have soundforge, loop based software and shit, I'll just try to concentrate on mysic instead on software... (not that I'll make any of it public...) I mean, early merzbow was for the most part fucking around with tapes and shit.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 11:03 [#00148752]
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i've been on both side of that...
in my eairly days, i had only a few proggies...but now...i am in the upper-medium class of beind technological spoiled as far as musical software goes...
infact that remix i just made for phob, and this site took me like a few hours, and i was done. while the stuff i normally work on takes me months, before i even get satisfied, and even consider releasing it...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 11:05 [#00148754]
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exactly... And, do you have other japanese noise thugs, like Masonna or Aube. I am dying to hear those guys, but find it extremely difficult to seek out.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 11:27 [#00148769]
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masonna is ok, but not that great...worth a listen to though...aube is the same but a little better...if you didn't live so far we could trade some cd-r's but i jsut traded 20 to a friend in germany, and it costed my over $30 american for shipping!
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 11:29 [#00148771]
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hey meho, you dig power electronics?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 11:51 [#00148778]
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nanotech, sorry to kep you waiting, I had some phonecalls to do... business as usual... Yeah, I dig power electronics when they're good But a lot of it is just pretentious crap (like, people are praising Brighter Death Now from sweden, and I have 5 of his albums but it's lame and boring compared to merzbow). Anyway, I have a lot of noise of this and that description... You should check out Joseph Suchy's debut CD (try www.churchofgrob.com for more info), it's all computer-treated guitar but it's totally earsplitting, like merzbow (apparently, he's been getting ready to record it since '78, but has done it after merzbow's performance in his town of Cologne)... I have a lot of minimal, painful japanese okyo stuff (otomo yoshihide, sachiko m, toshimaru nakamura etc.), not as heavy as merz but earshredding with high frequences and so on... Well, have you ever considered trading mp3 discs, that would mean 6-10 albums on a disc and that reduces p&p prices considerably. In fact, i sent a disc of autechre/ gescom mp3s to recycle last week and he is nowhere to be found on this board since...
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:05 [#00148788]
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did he at least send? that sucks to get burned on that stuff...do you have a list? Mine's up at trade list
as far as the power electronics....get some CONVERTER!!!! this man is the shiznat, and he lives right here in seattle. i also sugest winterkalte, and tarmvred.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 12:12 [#00148791]
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ugh, I don't have a list, I've been planning to type it in since ages but i'm just too lazy (and the list grows longer and longer) but next week i'll be alone in the office and i might force myself to do it. I'll check out your list in a couple of minutes... anyway, i don't think recycle is out to burn me (he seems like a nice chap...) and even if he was, that was like about $8 only, so what the hell. I'd like to check those guys you mention out but it's a slim chance obviously.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:15 [#00148792]
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if we had a faster connection...we could trade tracks with the flick of a wrist...but then my world would be a little to perfect...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 12:20 [#00148797]
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same here, dude. I don't even have internet connection @ home... yet. Anyway, checked your list, wow, pretty much industrial-inclined, aren't we. Hey, how come you don't have any Download stuff (and you have two cevin key's solo efforts, are they any good btw?), to me download is awesome: to fucking brutal and weird to be IDM and too smart to be proper industrial.
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2002-03-29 12:22 [#00148799]
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i have a fast connection haha! me and sido dyas always trade!
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:25 [#00148803]
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one of my friends had all the downloads, and skinny puppies...and since he was just down the street, i never worried about burning myslef copies...but he moved to a diffrent part of the state...
yeah, both of the cEvin key cd's are pretty good. just goes to show that you can make some baeutiful stuff when you're high enough to have a nose-bleed.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 12:30 [#00148807]
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well, i don't know that much about his substance abuse habits, save for goethel oding during recording of "The Process": I dig that album a lot btw, tho a lot of old skool skinny puppy fans hate it (for obvious guitar and piano related reasons, of course)
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:33 [#00148810]
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cevin key is a huge pothead...that man is releaseing tons of vault tracks to pay for his recent trips to jamaica
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 12:36 [#00148814]
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well as long as its pot, he's pretty much safe. The way I heard it, Ogre and Dwayne were much more into needle pricking sports. Even the track with the piano on "The Process" (the one with "She's not insane" chorus) is supposedly about ogre's junkie girlfriend
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:38 [#00148816]
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have you heard of oghr's single project...*ouuuuuuch* it bite's diddly ites
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 12:40 [#00148817]
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nah, I heard a lot of his stuff with pigface, tho. In fact I have all pigface cd's except for the remix albums...
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:41 [#00148819]
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isn't trent reznor form nin on some of that stuff?
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 12:46 [#00148824]
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he was on the album called "Gub" and he wrote their biggest hit (and for some reason or another i'm not sure i can remember the title of it... it's "Breathe" or "Choke" orsomething, one word anyway) and you can tell it's his deed. A great song, tho i'm not sucha big NIN fan
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:50 [#00148827]
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it's called suck...
i heard there's lostsa shit about that song's rights between trent and pig...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 12:56 [#00148833]
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yeah, suck, shit, im a retard: "How does it feeeeeel to suck suck suck", hehehe. Well, maybe. Martin Atkins is a cool dude and trnt is a corporate whore so...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 12:56 [#00148834]
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kidding, kidding
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 12:59 [#00148836]
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i used to be a HUGE nin fan, i still like his work, i mean it's fucking great...but I'm not as big on him as i used to be. I want to get that dvd though...if i could go and jack it, i'd never pay actual money for that corporate crap...
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 13:03 [#00148842]
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yeah, well I mostly hate reznor for conjuring that brian warner into marilyn manson (a caricature of reznor actually), but i worship his quake soundtrack... Ever tried Godflesh, they used to be really grrrreat in the late eighties and early nineties? Even the new stuff is quite listenable, but not as good, I find broadrick's ICE and Techno Animal adventures with Kevin Martin better in the last 6 years or so.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 13:06 [#00148847]
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i head a few tracks of godflesh, and dismissed it as to guitar heavy. i do hear that techno animal is pretty damn good, but i haven't heard any.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-29 13:14 [#00148850]
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well, you have a shitload of rammstein so you pro'bly should not dismiss things as too guitar heavy (or so I'd have thought), but, yes, newer Godflesh (as in since '93) relies more and more on this big fucking wall of solid steel mixed with concrete guitar. But the first LP and the second one, "Streetcleaner" are much freer: the bass does the riffs, but guitars just scream all over the sky and it was all heavily influenced by acid and other prohibited stuff, it seems. A lot of industrial music that came after streetcleaner was just crap, lame copycats trying to emulate master's work. And techno animal really is interesting, , their '95 album "Re-Entry" is a fucking monster (a double CD with 11 or 12 tracks of heavy pounding industrial-dub-hop, totally entrancing) and even the latest one on matador is pretty good, they used a bunch of excellent rappers (antipop consortium, El-P and Vast Aire, Toastie Taylor, dalek etc..) who rhyme over fucked up broken beats, mammoth basslines and screeching distorsion... Stooopid but good.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2002-03-29 13:19 [#00148855]
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i used to be into rammstein, and have a soft spot of 90's industial, like nin, but the tracks i heard of godflesh was more metal influenced than i dig...I'm mostly passionate about one-man electronic projects, and collabs are always good too, but only if they are meaningful, and not some piece of record label shit.
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