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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 12:48 [#02210231]
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i will be working in scotland from july 8th till the end of august.
i guess that i'll have a bit of free time for partying/sightseeing, probably i won't even stay in one place and go around the country.
could you recommend me any nice clubs, gigs, sights and other interesting things to watch there ? i guess i can find a lot with google but i would rather want to have some "insider" info.
also - could you recommend me any stores with music-gear there ? i guess that as i'm there i'll be buying some stuff right there.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 12:59 [#02210233]
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I live in Scotland. My advice: don't come.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 13:00 [#02210234]
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too late dude :>
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 13:06 [#02210239]
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In that case, my advice: avoid anyone who looks or sounds Scottish. If you're near Edinburgh, enjoy the festival if you can.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 13:10 [#02210243]
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you don't really seem a native.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 13:11 [#02210244]
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I'm not -- I come from London; moved to Scotland aged 12.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 13:16 [#02210247]
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and you love it
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-25 13:17 [#02210248]
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i have a friend who was in edinburgh for a year last year - ill ask her, she had a great time there.
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noseburger
on 2008-05-25 13:22 [#02210251]
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why so much hostility to the natives? i've always been rather fond of the place and the people.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 13:27 [#02210255]
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thanks a bunch !
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 13:42 [#02210256]
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Probably because I came to Scotland an innocent and was immediately bullied for being English, which lasted for the first 5 years of my school-life. And outwith school I've heard numerous Scottish people railing (quite ignorantly) against "THE ENGLISH", something I've had to put up with for 20 years (I remember people from my school coming out of watching that piece of shit film Braveheart saying they wanted to beat up English people).
Also they have "Flower Of Scotland" as their national anthem, a centuries-old anti-English song.
In summary, Scotland as a whole seems mired in the past and have a huge chip on their shoulder, an inferiority complex as a nation, and are quite dour (Andy Murray, anyone?) and negative in their outlook.
These are just some observations from having to live here 20 years. My mum has more or less the same opinion and she was born in Edinburgh to a Scottish mother (they moved to London when my mum was five), and has witnessed similar ignorant anti-English sentiments.
Also: Settler Watch, a vile little group in the northern Scottish countryside who made the lives of several English families a misery for the terrible crime of moving there.
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2008-05-25 14:37 [#02210272]
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if your in glasgow, be sure to check out the arches or soundhaus
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noseburger
on 2008-05-25 14:44 [#02210276]
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fair enough, i've only ever been there visting family.... i have to ask after saying all that, why the hell are you still there? work? ladies? fried mars bars?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-25 14:49 [#02210278]
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Well, now... my daughter (and consequently GF). Also my parents live here, though they plan on moving too and so do we in the medium to long term.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 15:20 [#02210290]
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i think i'll give you some free hugs when i come nearby
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-25 15:35 [#02210295]
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so any specific cities you will be staying in?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 15:45 [#02210298]
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glasgow or edinburgh as it will be most easy for me to find some work there. i'm taking a few friends with me so we aren't sure yet. but one of those two.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2008-05-25 15:52 [#02210300]
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i got you a friggin book:
ah ok. well, i could go on for days about good places in edinburgh do let me leave that for last. Good stuff to check out around the country: Isle of Skye is probably one of the coolest places ever, i recommend spending two or three days there. Orkney Islands have this really cool archaeological site called Skara Brae which even if you're not into archaeology is awesome. Orkney is just kind of cool and bizarre in and of itself
2:37 Stirling is worth a day trip, it's got a sweet castle and some other cool old stuff
2:38 Glasgow is amazing for shows, alllll the good bands and such come through there so it's worth checking out what's going down there at the time. I don't know specific names so much, but The Arches has some good shows, plus it's all an old subway station so it's really cool on the inside
2:39 there's really good day hiking in Fife which is within train distance of Edinburgh. The Fife Coastal Path is really nice. Also great hiking around Perth in the county, like Dunkeld and Birnam
2:39 Also, around Glasgow, Loch Lomond is realllllly pretty 2:40 there's highland bus tours that go for two to seven days depending on what you want to do and those are awesome if you can't rent a car
2:43 and Edinburgh. Things to see: Edinburgh Castle, take a ghost tour of Greyfriars Cemetery (kitschy but fun, it's called City of the Dead Tour), climb Arthur's Seat, Scottish National Museum and the Royal Muesum (right next to each other and both free), wandering around the main campus of Edinburgh Uni at Bristo Square (McEwan Hall and Teviot Student Union are cool and old looking, as are the law buildings at Chambers Street and South Bridge)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-25 15:59 [#02210301]
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yeah ! thanks for that. although i don't know about staying in one place for more than a day so i hope that just a quick-trip will solve it too :> as i said i would want to earn some money too so i don't know how much free time i get.
again thanks for the awesome list will check those sites.
as for music gear - i checked soundcontrol.co.uk ? any good ? the prices seem fair and they have most od the stuff i would want to buy.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-05-26 12:25 [#02210486]
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Exersise caution in a country that prides itself in cross dressing and whiskey.
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NewSkoolScience
from Outer Bongolia on 2008-05-26 15:48 [#02210540]
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Check out The Arches (Pressure) or the Sub Club (Sub Culture). Don't let Marlowe scare you off our lovely little country, he's clearly scarred for life.
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NewSkoolScience
from Outer Bongolia on 2008-05-26 15:49 [#02210541]
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Those clubs are in Glasgow -- and better than anything Edinburgh has to offer (lived there for 3 years before returning to Glasgow).
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-26 15:58 [#02210542]
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Not at all -- if the people suddenly turned into tolerant happy people, I'd be delighted.
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NewSkoolScience
from Outer Bongolia on 2008-05-26 16:03 [#02210544]
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Sweeping generalisations -- I love it.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-05-26 17:07 [#02210554]
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The Scottish should be happy to have English people around where do they think the tax comes from that pays their dole.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-26 17:44 [#02210565]
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I'm sure you're guiltless of it; I'm merely observing based on 20 years experience of the country and its people... just e-mail if you need the name of every person in Scotland who I've had experience of, and using my special dour-o-meter in each case, we can tabulate the results.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-26 17:50 [#02210568]
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yeh right on my tax pays for their methodone
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-05-27 02:29 [#02210612]
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What I find hilarious is the amount of moaning I've heard about "The English" stereotyping them... yet so many adverts for Scottish products feature the very stereotypes which they rail against. Or go to a sports event and see the amount of fans wearing those ridiculous tartan berets with the fake ginger hair.
CLUE: If you want to shed your stereotype, don't perpetuate it and then complain that you're being stereotyped.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-27 04:45 [#02210630]
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scotland's lovely. Best thing in edinburgh is the 1st week of the festival, you can get into loads of comedy shows or £5 a night to see 3 comics as they have trial shows to test their material before the festival really gets underway. Some of the unknown comics are loads better than big names. you get to rub shoulders with stewart lee and the like or if you're like me punt and dennis. The highlands are breathtaking. Edinburgh is a beautiful city to visit (modern art gallery is good-bacon was on last i was there), water of leith is a nice walk out to it. glasgow is scuzzier and more lively. belfast=glasgow, edinburgh=dublin (but no as boring as either=]). Careful with sound control, they're in administration atm.
/me end directionless rant
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-05-27 04:47 [#02210631]
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get away from princess street in edinburgh. . . get down the grassmarket or out to the shows on the meadows during the festival.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2008-05-28 04:03 [#02210876]
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thanks a lot guys.
i'll bump this again when i'm at place so i could maybe meet some of you.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2012-05-30 12:23 [#02434889]
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bump
are you there yet?
btw yay or naw ?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 12:38 [#02434890]
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scotland is awesome. saw hudson mohawke, bought some stuff, earned some money and bought a pc in which i stuffed hard drives that we got for free from old servers we recycled which immediately broke down killing my entire musical career. i broke up with my girlfriend and got fat and had to throw away all of the trousers i bought in tk-max for very cheap. oh and i think i've gone full on racist after the trip.
loch ness sucked cocks. what a waste of time.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2012-05-30 12:42 [#02434892]
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i'd rather see loch ness than hudson mohawke, I guess...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 12:43 [#02434893]
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i didn't say hudson mohawke was better.
although he's gotten pretty awesome right now.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2012-05-30 12:55 [#02434894]
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what about girls. scottish girls.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 13:01 [#02434895]
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horrible. anything that looked humane was either russian or polish. fat from contraception pills, stuffed into two sizes two small jeans and adidas, with frilly makeup.
although there was one very pretty lady at tk-max at the counter who i totally fell in love with although this forced me into going there 3 times daily everytime grabbing a pair of socks. or less.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2012-05-30 13:09 [#02434897]
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LAZY_TITLE
did you get to that festival lupus mentioned above ?
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gingaling
from Scamworth (Burkina Faso) on 2012-05-30 17:10 [#02434911]
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yeah scotland sorta sucks on the fanny front.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 18:29 [#02434918]
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i was in edinburgh at the festival idd. it was absolutely amazing. i saw some fantastic performances. i can totally recommend this for anyone going.
as for the fannys: i'm curious if one myth is true as i didn't have the guts to try. the best way to get a scottish girl at a bar is supposedly to take some nearly emptied drinks and pour everything into one glass and then approach something fuckable and serve it to her.
in my case there wasn't anything remotely fuckable. my head is to strong for that wattered down scot beer.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2012-05-30 18:30 [#02434919]
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i was in edinburgh at the festival idd. it was absolutely amazing. i saw some fantastic performances. i can totally recommend this for anyone going.
as for the fannys: i'm curious if one myth is true as i didn't have the guts to try. the best way to get a scottish girl at a bar is supposedly to take some nearly emptied drinks and pour everything into one glass and then approach something fuckable and serve it to her.
in my case there wasn't anything remotely fuckable. my head is to strong for that wattered down scot beer.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2012-05-31 20:25 [#02435032]
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You get that everywhere in the UK. Now Ireland have been "free" of England for a while, they bleat about how the root of all their problems is Germany (despite the fact the only reason they had an artificial boom was EU-cash, but that's by the by). Rural Wales is the same, they seem to genuinely believe that their lot would be better if England didn't exist. I'm a taff, but fuck me if we wouldn't be screwed were it not for England.
Back to Sadist's question, I used to work in Scotland quite regularly and Edinburgh and Glasgow are great. Glasgow is nowhere near as rough as people make out. You get the odd psychopath, just like anywhere, but most of them just have a bark worse than their bite when they get noisy. On the whole I find them to be very hospitable and intelligent people.
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2012-06-03 14:17 [#02435179]
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Trossachs and isle of Arran are cool... some great geology if that kind o' thing tickles your titties (geology is pretty IDM)
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obara
from Utrecht on 2012-06-03 17:00 [#02435185]
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what do you think about Aberdeen then ? have you been there ?
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