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offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-22 13:43 [#02209311]
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i dont think there are any mysteries behind all of the
troubles we have in human life , theres no god in the air
waiting to judge us for what we've done , there is no one
invisible thing causing anything to happen to us , i think
that we happen to things instead

nothing fits the city i live in more suitably than that
painting "the scream" , it captures what everyone around me
is going through so accurately. becoming insane asking for
answers where there are none - totally unable to see that
their answer to their problems has become that they require
an answer

if i have kids thatll be the only thing i tell them as a
'life lesson'. i'll say, "you currently know more about this
shit than i do. dont listen to a fucking word i say ever. do
you know that you can teleport?"


 

offline chambre noire from Iceland on 2008-05-22 13:52 [#02209312]
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don't get any kids


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-05-22 13:54 [#02209313]
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we're all just bigger kids, kids are just mini-people and
they expand and their cells multiply


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2008-05-22 13:57 [#02209314]
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This bit it true -

"if i have kids thatll be the only thing i tell them as a
'life lesson'. i'll say, "you currently know more about
this
shit than i do. dont listen to a fucking word i say ever.""



 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-05-22 14:07 [#02209315]
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there are no answers you say? i think there would be plenty.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-22 14:21 [#02209319]
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if you say there is an answer you do not have - then that is
your answer, isnt it? youve said, "i do not have the
answer." you have declared, "I cannot rationalize this."
isnt it totally up to you?


 

offline cx from Norway on 2008-05-22 14:36 [#02209324]
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personally i believe humans are built to be curious, and
without this curiosity we would not survive or evolve in any
way.
the brain is basically a problem solver, thats it, it solves
the problems it sees. everything from a stained shirt to
existentialism.

i realized that im always going to be a half perfectionist,
and that im always going to wonder about things, but why is
this a bad thing?
why is requiring an answer a bad thing?
this is the same shit we discussed with barcode, he thinks
its best to be animals and only live on instinct, and that
this is the ultimate way of living with nature.
i say intelligence and self awareness is more than that, and
that it is worth any trouble we may have figuring shit out.

another thing, about your example with your own kids,
i dont think children know more about this than us.
i think i see your point in that children live usually a
much less analytic and much less mature life, and that this
is the root of a lot of problems. but isnt that what makes
us human?
why do we have to criticize and alter our own way we
evolved?
why cant we just accept who we are, and let it evolve by
itself.
enough people are happy, enough people are angry, sad, but
this is the human condition, and i dont think theres
anything wrong with that


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-05-22 14:38 [#02209325]
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i cannot rationalize it's the beginning of any religion
principle. i'm saying i don't have an answer cos i can't
access it somehow. that's what was happening in the past, or
what happens in the less advanced countries. in the advanced
ones nowadays, there are answers many people don't have cos
they're too deep into something to see, or have been too
much into something to accept, or they just don't give a
fuck about them, that it's up to us the way things are going
in this world. and will be up to our sons the way things
will go in the future cos you can easily answer questions
that people have been wondering about for ages. we, the
informed ones, are consciously being fucked everyday but the
fact that we ignore the problems doesn't mean that the
problems don't exist.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-05-22 14:41 [#02209326]
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enough people are happy, enough people are angry, sad,
but
this is the human condition, and i dont think theres
anything wrong with that


that's your solution to the problem?


 

offline cx from Norway on 2008-05-22 14:43 [#02209328]
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of course not hehe

the "solution" is much much much more complex than any one
single person can fathom.
there are so many people involved and so many angles to take
into account, and so many events and compromises need to be
made.

my point was that i think its a bit dramatic to compare the
city you live in to the painting "the scream", because its
not that bad.
people have ups and downs, but cygnus is talking like
there's some underlying misery inherent in all of existence
of mankind. (or at least it sounds that way(


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-22 15:11 [#02209336]
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i did not mean to say that 'requiring an answer' is a bad
thing, i meant to say that requiring an answer is an answer
in itself. there's no condition working against you - there
is a condition that you've placed there entirely on your
own.

heres an example , once you point at something in your
living room and say, "that's a television", all of the
sudden everything that's not a television will come into
appearance. you know? its the same thing with "problems",
"frustrations", "worries", "pains"

kids don't do this. they are so rich and full of awareness.
theyre completely empty. theyre a void. they have it so
good. look at the condition of any child, look at the void.
have you ever seen a racist or suicidal 3 year old? they get
all shit we think is "fucked up" from us. they copy our
behavior models!


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-22 15:18 [#02209339]
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no idea what u meant by that


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-05-22 16:52 [#02209388]
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ask to my left side of the brain!

btw.. kids have no responsibility (sometimes)


 

offline PS on 2008-05-22 16:59 [#02209395]
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It sounds like all you need is a good scalp/foot massage.
As my pops always said, there are no questions, only
answers!


 

offline PS on 2008-05-22 17:01 [#02209397]
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Also, if you had to pick between EP7 and cichlisuite, which
would you chose? I just got my hands on Envane, after all
these years, and now I need to get another. Quite a
problem!


 

offline wolfman from Newcastle on 2008-05-22 17:06 [#02209400]
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tell them to not worry about grammar on the internet when
your drunk


 

offline PS on 2008-05-22 17:07 [#02209401]
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I chose Cichlisuite. See you all later!


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-22 17:09 [#02209403]
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don't worry about grammers on an internet when you're
TANKED.

What is better for strawberry shortcake? Poundcake or those
little shortbread cups?


 

offline PS on 2008-05-22 17:12 [#02209405]
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angel food, cupcake sized


 

offline freqy on 2008-05-22 17:12 [#02209406]
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im a fluffy bunny trapped in a mans body


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-05-22 17:14 [#02209409]
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don't worry about that, theres english teachers on board


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2008-05-22 17:22 [#02209418]
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Nah, just some people who still give a damn about language.


 

offline Barcode from United Kingdom on 2008-05-22 17:28 [#02209429]
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Cygnus, is right. In the philosophical sphere, there are no
answers only questions, if the answers do not strengthen of
fortify our existing beliefs we're not interested. The
question is impotent. Unfortunately, humans don't think
they're living unless they create a problem, therefore
boredom is the real bane of mankind.

Oh and cx, you completely misinterpreted me. I do not want
to live as other animals do - lol. It's about using the
capabilities of my superior intelligence to its fullest,
giving it it's rightful place.

It may seem preposterous, but human intellect has been so
abused, distorted and conditioned, that there is now much
more to learn from the instinctual life of other animals
than each other.
In fact, I actually believe that other animals are more
intelligent that human beings, because they use what
intelligence they have to its absolute maximum, whereas the
vast majority of humans use the absolute minimum of their
intelligence.



 

offline freqy on 2008-05-22 17:44 [#02209438]
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i was thinking this the other day ...animals other than
humans learn so much faster and can do so much more.

a baby squirel was running so fast around this tree as i
watched an insect(perhaps 2 days old) flew past me
navigating around and through hedges and plants at what
seems like 30mph.(for its size it was quicker than a mig
fighter jet)

animlas learn to fend for them selves and ....kangaroo roos
..even know to crawl out of the mothers womb and into her
pouch with no help at all.

penguins marching across hundreds of miles to stand in a
freezing void to hatch eggs ...

we are all animals ...but humans are the dumbest they
destroy the planets environment.



 

offline freqy on 2008-05-22 17:47 [#02209440]
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tis why i dont pay multi national companies to abuse or kill
them.

cause they all have feelings and great intelligence ..its
just they ddont have comunicaion skills like us.

look at how a spider weaves a web ....who tought it?

or a bird how it knows to build a nest who tought it?

is it all built into the dNA?



 

offline rad smiles on 2008-05-22 19:05 [#02209471]
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instinct trumps knowledge.


 

offline freqy on 2008-05-22 19:19 [#02209475]
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yeah insects are masters...except when it comes to glass
.....they cant figure out glass ...they fly into it ...

although some wasps know what it is.


 

offline freqy on 2008-05-22 19:20 [#02209477]
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you said instinct ( i thought you said insect) its this
coffee....2.30am thing going on.. im gonna go watch a film..


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-22 19:50 [#02209479]
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welcome to your early 20s. twat.


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2008-05-22 20:42 [#02209492]
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ahhh.. welcome back!


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-22 21:06 [#02209503]
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i hate ppl without any problems i just cant relate. ffs make
one up if u were born with a silver spoon down yuore fucking
guts.

cygnus kill yourself. hand your life over to someone more
deserving.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-22 21:07 [#02209505]
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u blantant DUPE!!!!!!!!! :D


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2008-05-22 21:17 [#02209511]
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woah kids can teleport?


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-22 21:26 [#02209514]
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yea i just found out too


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-22 21:29 [#02209515]
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it aint leak, it aint leak, he aint no senator's son no no
it aint leak, it aint leak, he aint no fortunate one, no



 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2008-05-22 21:30 [#02209516]
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ok

what thread is this?


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-22 22:04 [#02209528]
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earthleakage u pushed me over the edge, im gonna do
it!!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-05-22 22:05 [#02209529]
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i'm a problem person sometimes, gotta be a cool person to be
in this forld brotha, nev4get


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-05-22 22:05 [#02209530]
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***world


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-22 22:06 [#02209532]
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and im handing my life over to brother mohamed. he shall be
the new tenant


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-05-22 22:07 [#02209533]
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fat mystic-water womans


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-22 22:13 [#02209535]
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u had a valid point to share and u put it in the most
pretentious vulgar way possible. i know yr a good guy really
but seriously think next time if u dont want to be mocked.
or perhaps i got that wrong maybe its a joke. i just got
offended ur mixing real problems with triviality.


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-05-22 22:17 [#02209538]
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problems are everywhere


 

offline pulseclock from Downtown 81 on 2008-05-22 22:17 [#02209539]
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solving them is the journey of life


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2008-05-22 22:39 [#02209541]
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children need a lot more beating than goes on these days


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2008-05-23 00:14 [#02209546]
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thats funny and serious on 3 accounts each.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-23 00:48 [#02209550]
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somethings not a problem until it is defined as problematic,
no?

go outside and once you call a thing a "tree" - everything
that is not a tree will suddenly appear. that is what im
talking about


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-23 00:51 [#02209551]
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"solving problems" - i mean, the solution that's already
been chosen is that a solution needs to be found. do u see
what i mean?


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-05-23 00:52 [#02209552]
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i would never beat a kid - look at the behavior model youre
displaying by doing that. at least hold them at gunpoint


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2008-05-23 04:01 [#02209567]
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im gonna print this dream and read it when im wake up,
thanks a lot,have nice day*


 


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