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father of LSD 11 January 1906 - 29 April 2008 Died at 9AM CEST at his home in Basel, Switzerland. Hofmann was 102 years old. On his 100th birthday, a symposium was organised in Basel where thousands attended to meet Dr. Hofmann and celebrate his birthday, as well as listen to various headliners of the psychedelic community about how LSD has changed our world. Rest in peace, Albert. Hope you enjoy the ultimate trip. |
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he's riding his bicycle in heaven |
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respect. I like that he advocated the drug. |
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and he always working to share quimics and psychic freedom for Albert,thanks you* |
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to put that into context: he advocated it to a limited group of people. he said himself LSD isn't for everybody. His biggest wish was to revive LSD psychotherapy. |
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just as i was saying that he was alive... oh well, quite a respectable age and a respectable career. And if you ever heard the man's speeches, his lucidity and wits were remarkable. |
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Bugger, I was just reading his wiki article the other and marvelling that he was still alive. RIP - without you I'd never have experienced a whole bunch of weirdness. |
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RIP |
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congs with the death. RIP |
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is this the guy from the pro lsd speech which enjoyed much "'today young men on acid..' are discovering great things in their mind etc" |
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RIP - thanks for all wisdom, freedom off life and mystical mind. He has changed the world 4 ever. |
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you probably mean Bill Hicks. quote: Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. |
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or timothy leary? |
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im sorry, i was confusing quotes i ment this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary he's dead too |
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yep |
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he was a great man too. |
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he was a nutter who took some acid and thought it was the answer to everything. |
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tim leary really fucked things up. it's a right shame. Terence Mckenna is for me still the greatest figure in the history of psychedelics. anyway, going off topic. another albert pic: |
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if the truth can be told as to be understood, it WILL be believed. mckenna had such a creepy voice u didnt need to take anything to be freaked out listening to him. |
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for me square listening to him is the closest i can come to a trip |
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True: he was a big nutter. But i think he was right about the fact LSD is the answer to everything if used in right ways. |
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McKenna was cool - is he still on the go? |
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may he indeed have his well earned trip of a lifetime :( |
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mckenna has gone to a separate reality in the year 2000. |
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One time the wall was undulating then I looked at a picture of Jimmy Hendrix for too long and for a split second I was standing next to him. Another time my arms seemed too long and I had to be really careful not to knock things over with them, not just close things but things really far away and even things on TV. Thanks for that RIP LSD LOL |
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he had a huge impact on my life indirectly, probably more than any one individual. bless him... |
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hes gotten pretty old and stayed pretty sane RIP |
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well he had a good run didn't he! |
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it's bizarre. yesterday, the 29th, I was having a discussion at work about all my LSD exploits during college. Is that something like "getting on the bus?" |
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That picture totally reminds me of the wizard's tower in for some reason. It's an awesome game; try it some time! I have a question I want to ask all those that have used LSD and other psychedelic drugs and whatnot. The wording will possibly induce offence in you, but it's truly just the way it seems (seemings can be disproved, but disproving is sometimes a kind of proving), so bear with it. When people talk about insights and influences the drugs have had on them, most of the time, it's incoherent mystical babble, and the rest of the time, it's superficial greeting-card insights. It's usually portrayed as something you can't realise without the drugs because you have to "experience it," but from the intelligible answers, there hasn't been a single "insight" that has gone beyond scratching the surface of any subject it has touched upon (disregarding those insights that are just plain wrong). Now, hoping to possibly get at least one clear answer: What, exactly, is it drugs have taught you? What has it made you realise? (And, please, don't pretend the insights provided are inaccessible to anyone who hasn't tried the drugs; so far, those have been the just plain wrong ones.) |
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As you have predicted it is really hard to quantify. For me it was an appreciation of the little details. I found that the best experiences were with subtle things. I had no real epiphony, but my perseptions were slightly but permently altered after taking it. |
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as for marihuana being a slight psychodelic drug i can say things may appear bigger than they are. problems you solve under the influence maybe looking at things from a different perspective may appear as the ultimate solution. i can only assume its the same with heavier psychodelic drugs. as for lsd i heard that feeling can change your whole attitude towards the world permanently. and i know a person who changed quite a lot in his life, not solving his personal problems though. well at least he believes he did, but its a lot of make believe. |
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I don't think any personal problems can be addressed with psycoactive drugs. I certainly wouldn't recomend bringing any baggage with you when you take a trip. |
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i dont know, everybody has some baggage, some have more some have less i can only say a friend of mine built up lots of his persona under the influence of various drugs of course this doesnt prove my theory of psychedelics i have to leave but ill keep an eye on this thread |
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why don't you read what albert hofmann has written? if you ask the average person on the street to describe some very personal, complex experience you are going to ask for responses from quite a few people before you find feedback that will satisfy you. it took me years to get the slightest grip on what happened to me, and i'm certainly not looking forward to having you wave your hand and dismiss me. understand, the experience is very intense, very personal, and very difficult to put into words. no, you *cannot* understand the experience without undertaking it yourself. it is too far removed from the everyday experience. most importantly, the experience varies widely. not everyone agrees with my reports, nor do i expect them to. if you choose to undertake the experience, at the very least you will be persuaded that you cannot distill the experience into language and leave the experience intact. as a result of my experiments, i was forced (in order to be honest with myself) to renounce my atheism in favor of agnosticism. eventually i was forced (in order to be honest with myself) to renounce my agnosticism in favor of gnosticism (in the literal sense). can you appreciate that i cannot communicate the substance of what led me to these changes? can you respect that i don't have the words to make you understand? |
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Galileo was already familiar with the problem: how to reason with people who didn't want to look into the telescope? One way is to ignore them, another is to try to engage them. Both approaches have their problems. For the time being, best one can do is to point at the tools and verify their existence. |
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To be honest I am sure my life would be no poorer had I not had it. But you never know |
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ah lsd. thanks for the memories. rest in peace, guy. |
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THANKS FOR THE UNCONTROLLABLE LAUGHTER, PARANOIA, AND ALSO LETTING ME SEE WALLS BREATH ETC. |
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theres not much i can add to what plaidzebra said, but for me, insights or not, psychedelics do expand consciousness. seeing as consciousness is a pretty vague thing to ponder, i also hope you'll forgive me for being unable to explain clearly. you get insights and you become aware, then it's up to you if you work with that new information or not. psychedelics merely provide a key, not answers, in my experiences. |
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why are you making the assumption that drugs will make you realise anything? you believe what other people say? you also seem out to discount experience. there are functions in your brain that make up what you perceive so there are some very subtle things going on. a huge amount goes into raising concepts, memories, sensations etc to consciousness and sure enough ingested substances can blur these things together. for example there is a sensation that 'locates' the seat of consciousness most of the time behind your eyes, in your body, giving you an orientation and in another sense all of your perceptions as what they are where they are when they are. if you are sceptical that there is some sensation that tells you what you know is true or what you perceive is there, then try psychadelics and observe the effects if this sense is disturbed... but a large function of human faculty is the alteration of this sense-- abstract thought, the ability to see things other than they are or to put yourself or things in other positions, watch things 'play out' in your head. an affection of this sense and the usual ones can be induced by hallucinogens and i'm pretty sure is involved in religious experiences/'revalations' & out of body experiences. it can be to an extent. i remember a thing we would do as kids to make you feel as if your head was passing through the floor. another method is sense depravation chambers which i first read about in a richard feinman book. and actually gave me the basic idea that i emulated myself once. but i don't think it's any different than taking an pill for a headache...even this alters your perception, in an inderiect way...but myself with a headache is not myself without one. you can give someone a pill to reduce blood pressure as you can give them one to cause anxiety, hallucinations, a feeling of mystery or wonder, etc. i haven't done lsd. |
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I came to that same conclusion about the continuing changing of consciousness & personality via everyday things, such as headache pills, different moods - it seems that since then I have become very sensitive to things that I take into my body - coffee, alcohol, even food. |
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"understand, the experience is very intense, very personal, and very difficult to put into words [...] if you choose to undertake the experience, at the very least you will be persuaded that you cannot distill the experience into language and leave the experience intact." That's a general problem with language, but we're quite capable of communicating other experiences; no-one is expecting you to give a perfect account of your experience. Also, I'm not really asking about the experience, but about what you've realised, which is usually much easier to convey in language (realisations are even quite often predicates). Note also that I'm not asking because I'm going to try this stuff out, and I never will. It's a principal thing, but if you want to argue, I'll defend it. "can you appreciate that i cannot communicate the substance of what led me to these changes? can you respect that i don't have the words to make you understand?" No, not really. |
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Elaborate on how it expands consciousness. |
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"why are you making the assumption that drugs will make you realise anything?" While I don't personally believe that drugs would make (force) me to realise anything, the assumption was made (this time) based on what people have told me. "you believe what other people say?" Sometimes, yes, and other times no. In certain cases, it's worth pursuing. Note that I've been focusing a bit on consciousness in my studies over the years, which is why I'm interested. "you also seem out to discount experience." How so? Because I mention that people have been wrong? Experience is perfectly capable of being wrong. In that respect, it would indeed be correct to say that I am out to discount experience, to point out incorrect experience, but that wasn't the main point of my question, and I won't do that unless it is relevant to my main thesis (which I haven't revealed yet because I don't want tainted reports). |
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you are circuit bending your brain so that it accepts and processes stimuli differently than it did before. The wall that used to be between your conscious waking mind and your subconscious isn't as sturdy as it was 45 mins ago. Your mind is bleeding dream type messages overtop of what your waking mind is seeing. Yes I would say your consciousness is being expanded beyond what it was before you dropped. |
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Very well put. |
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but that is just lsd and mushrooms. how about something like salvia where the wall in front of you seperates into oragami, the floor is suddenly crawling up your arm, your teeth are in the back of your neck and you are staring into something that is somehow a vortex and a shampoo commercial at the same time. |
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let's just stick to lsd shall we? |
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