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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:41 [#00806073]
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Many of you disappoints me. Is it so hard to stay out of trouble?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:43 [#00806074]
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Another way to approach the problem would be to perm. ban all members on my list of troublemakers, which by now are considerably long.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:44 [#00806076]
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I'd rather have you ban some old folks than shut it down for the kids... or the other way around.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:45 [#00806077]
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Even the old folks are messing around.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:47 [#00806078]
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But if the majority are voting on "Let it stay", some bans will be made.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-02 19:47 [#00806079]
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Is it people starting arguments or just pointless nonsense posts that annoy the most?
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 19:48 [#00806080]
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it is unfortunate that it has come to this, but sad as it may be, some people here could probably benefit from an old-fashioned (virtual) disciplinary spanking!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 19:50 [#00806081]
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the answer is pretty simple. permanently ban everyone who votes to shut it down - because why would they want to shut it down but still keep posting?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 19:52 [#00806083]
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or maybe a personal warning via email will have an effect
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-08-02 19:53 [#00806084]
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Another way to approach the problem would be to perm. ban all members on my list of troublemakers, which by now are considerably long.
Then do so. Frankly, that's what you and the crew should be doing.
They're trolls, Phob. They get off on messing stuff up. They will not learn or stop doing wrong.
Do away with them and let's move forward.
Thanks.
*Deposits 2 cents*
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:55 [#00806085]
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both are annoying.
the general quality has fallen while the number of flamming posts have raised.
and there are always these people who are getting involved in topics which are initially NOT directed to them. IGNORE is the keyword here.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 19:55 [#00806086]
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another idea. lead by example - close more threads and make sure you explain why at the end of each thread you close.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 19:56 [#00806087]
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I dunno man I'd miss it if you shut it but understand if you did, that's all there is to it. Take whatever from whoever's opinion you respect on here and go from there. I think the number of daft topics hasn't changed that much, the community has certainly grown so more chatting is going on. The real problem is, do you want to shut this place down because of the people who are trying to shut it down themselves?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 19:57 [#00806088]
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good point. perhaps what you were saying about alchohol and clarity was right after all! :)
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-08-02 19:58 [#00806089]
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If the general level of irrelevant chit chat is getting out of hand set up a chat room and/or get rid of the point system.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 19:59 [#00806090]
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im sure most of the troublemakers here does not want to shut down the mb.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 20:00 [#00806092]
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eh. why would people put down time and effort to, as you put it, 'close down' a site (like this)?
I mean some people may be offended by things, or a website may break the law, etc, but this is just a nice site...
not saying you are wrong; just wondering what their purpose is...
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-08-02 20:00 [#00806093]
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what has the point system got to do with anything?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-02 20:01 [#00806094]
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Am I on the list of troublemakers? I know I'm silly.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:02 [#00806095]
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i find it pretty amusing that someone would post just for the sake of upping their points. i just post whenever i have something relevant to say. spamming threads are pretty sad.
i do agree that a chatroom might be a way out for the attention-deficient though.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:03 [#00806096]
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Perhaps that was an extreme way to term it, but they're obviously detremental to the state of the board, and have serious influence with regards to repercussions that occur. I don't know how you could solve this, as anyone who is slightly antagonistic could possibly fit into this category, and if you just ban everyone who you feel is derogatory to other members then you could suffer a backlash. It's your board man, do what thou see fit.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:03 [#00806097]
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change the status system to moderator defined, i.e., model professionsal / pushing his luck / internet clown / moaning minnie / whatever. that would be great!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-02 20:05 [#00806098]
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I think earthleakage's e-mail warning might be a good idea. It's easy to hide behind a messageboard name, it's quite impersonal when you get your wrists slapped by a mod and it makes some feel 'cool' to be rebelious infront of the class.
It must be boring + annoying having to police the messages, I know I write some crap too..... but it was earthleakages fault.
Good luck with the new site though!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:06 [#00806099]
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ban jivverdicker for
1 - ignoring my slur earlier 2 - ignoring my email i sent him 10 days ago
:)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:07 [#00806100]
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That's a really good idea!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:07 [#00806101]
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Although possibly difficult to carry out fairly
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:09 [#00806103]
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good suggestion: i like the mod-defined label system! at least that way we'd know what sort of quality of posts to expect from an overanxious member of the board.
but it would be a loss to see this board go up in flames over silliness getting out of hand.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-02 20:09 [#00806104]
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I read that slur and I've been weeping all evening....I've half ignored that e-mail, there's a package with your address on it on the table in the kitchen but I just got back yesterday... Monday deffinately, honest!
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-08-02 20:11 [#00806105]
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An amusing suggestion, but I can't see how it would make the situation any better and might make it worse.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:11 [#00806106]
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haha! :) ok! i know you've been busy, j/k. thanx in advance. you're gonna be more busy soon though... :o/
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-02 20:12 [#00806107]
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I really do think thats a good idea...
Like, keep the addict thing etc... but for offenders, have "warned" and then "warned twice" and then after that its a ban.
This way it would really keep it together. I think alot of people do stuff, they get scolded, and then they stop, and the mods forget about it, and then it might happen again later. This way, its kept in check, and there is no ambiguity.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-08-02 20:14 [#00806108]
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That's fine as long as only the mods can see it. I don't really like the idea of scarlet letters for the community.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:14 [#00806109]
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3 strikes and you're out? Like, 1 strike lasts a... month? Then is revoked if you behave? I dunno, I'm on my eighth can of Stella so don't expect much sense from me here
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-02 20:15 [#00806110]
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but what if someone is pissed out of their gourde?
It might work a bit actually..
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:15 [#00806111]
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I can't help but be reminded of that Big Brother thread Marlowe started all those months ago.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-02 20:16 [#00806112]
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Could you vote people out!?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:16 [#00806113]
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yeah i can imagine people hounding the mods about what they want. it was just an idea of the top of my head really.
earthleakage from the psychotronic sounds Points: 7766 Status: Retro Obsessed Freak Intolerant Lazy Alchoholic Sweetiepie
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-02 20:16 [#00806114]
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exactly
(you made sense, dont worry)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-02 20:17 [#00806115]
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That was vetoed :)
Thing is, the more stipulations you have the more people have to think about posting, which has it's advantages and disadvantages.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-02 20:17 [#00806116]
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yes... but it would avoid the huge fiascos, everytime someone gets banned.
and like, everyone is like "what?!?! what did he do? why did this happen?"
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:18 [#00806117]
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No no no, don't shut this place down, it would be like I lost a limb, or at least a finger. It's not that bad. Theo Himself has to stop being the badass on campus though. Who else is on the shit list?
About the status thing... I dunno... some people might consider it a badge of honor! ''I'm so bad, I'm such a rebel, look at me, the James Dean of Xltronic'', etc. It's a funny idea (and I'd have fun setting you all to ''walking on thin ice'' just for fun), but it's not our panacea.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-02 20:22 [#00806119]
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Can't we just all be friends??
I think we should follow our heads and our hearts and be the person we want and deserve to be.
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:23 [#00806120]
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wouldn't it make more sense to ban the trouble makers, and have them lose xltronic before we ALL have to lose it?
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:24 [#00806122]
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hehe! maybe it'd be even more insulting/punitive if there was a "star system" - ie. the michael jackson of xltronic, the master p, the pamela anderson, the tom cruise, etc.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:26 [#00806123]
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not if it was explained why. perhaps a set of rules regarding ettiquitte could be sent to every member.
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manticore
from London (ON) (Canada) on 2003-08-02 20:26 [#00806124]
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but on a serious tip, this whole trend of people insulting one another on here really has to go! that's what hardcore conservative republican messageboards are for!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:26 [#00806125]
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sorry that was a reply to zeus.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-02 20:27 [#00806126]
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or if you don't want to do a mass mailshot, have a link at the top of the page regarding new rules so everyone gets to read them.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-08-02 20:32 [#00806128]
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i never want xltronic to go away... =*[
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-08-02 20:42 [#00806136]
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I think this messageboard is kind of important to people who want to talk to like minded people about creative things and i don't think it shoud be sacraficed for a few peoples stupidity.
Banning is the way to go imho.
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