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offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-27 15:38 [#01163234]
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I am going digital camera shopping this evening (I will
also buy Hitman: Contracts if I find the Xbox version, but
that's another story).

Seeing as I'm not a pro photographer, and I expect to only
be taking pictures of my cat, my buttocks, and stupid
things, I don't need anything particularly fancy. I'm
willing to spend 200-250. What should look for at that
price, any particular make/model, any particular specs?
Resolution, megapixels, whatever? Someone else mentioned
that the Canon A70 is a good buy, I'm leaning towards that
one at the moment.

What kind of camera do you have? Yes, you!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-04-27 15:39 [#01163236]
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i got my sony dsc v1 a week ago...im very happy with it at
the moment.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-04-27 15:43 [#01163245]
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btw i paid 250 EUR/USD less in austria, than i would pay for
it in our shops...that's a good deal :)


 

offline -V- from Ensenada Drive on 2004-04-27 15:47 [#01163253]
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I have an ePhoto CL18 - it takes photos up to a whopping
resolution of 640x480! The photos are usually so detailed
that you can almost make out what you took a picture of. It
holds up to 16 photos, and I can't even imagine wanting to
hold more than that. It has no nasty viewer screen thing to
drain the batteries and will run completely off of the USB
cable with no batteries at all in it! I recommend this
camera, giving it 5 stars (*****) since I'm not allowed to
give it any more. I don't regret my purchase for a moment!


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-27 15:56 [#01163264]
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Ooohh, that's nice one. I'm not willing to spend that much
on it, though. I'll trade you 6000 points for it.

-V- is a Bitter Betty.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-27 15:57 [#01163267]
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He he, I've got one like that too somewhere. The tagline
should be- "640*480 great for mobile phone backdrops,
useless for everything else."


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-04-27 16:00 [#01163270]
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heh, i have more points that i'd like to have as it is :)

anyway, check the prices for that sony in your shops, it
might be cheaper than it was here...


 

offline staplemouth on 2004-04-27 18:00 [#01163445]
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Pretty much anything that has 'Fuji FinePix *' on it is a
very good camera. I have one of last years models and the
colours and detail are amazing, and it is only 2.1effective
megapixels. The newer ones are higher however. But yeah, the
Fuji FinePix series will make you happy, and last years
models are cheap and really really good still. And get
something higher than 2 megapixel.

And as for hitman contracts, there are only 4 new levels,
and the rest are remakes of hitman 2, so, i dunno how much
it costs now but it may/may not be worth it. Give Manhunt a
look too, its the newish game by Rockstar North, pretty damn
good.

hope that helped somewhat :)


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-04-27 18:22 [#01163457]
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ive got a Canon Powershot A300 - and i love it. great
resolution (not astounding, but 3.2mp) and some great
features.


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-04-27 18:33 [#01163473]
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SONY cyber shot 2.0 mega pixels.
i love her.


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2004-04-27 18:35 [#01163476]
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I have a Fuji Finepix something, it's okay. I'm
disappointed with the flash sometimes, though. It gives
anything that has eyes red-eye and if you're taking a
picture in a dark room (such as pictures of bands who are
performing), they sometimes come out grainy. Also, it makes
everyone's skin look way worse than it actually is. But
it's still not awful, and I didn't pay a ton for it (less
than 300 bucks, almost two years ago).


 

offline staplemouth on 2004-04-27 18:58 [#01163518]
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yeah, im not sure about the older models, but my last years
model was $999 and is really really good, and the new ones
are pretty damn good too. But thats my experience anyway.

have a look here, its a list of $200-$300 digital cameras
with star ratings and reviews and what not
http://www.digitalcamera-hq.com/price-200-to-300-digital-...


 

offline staplemouth on 2004-04-27 19:01 [#01163532]
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heres some entry level fujifilm digicams too if you are
interested, most within your price range.

http://www.fujifilm.ca/DigitalGateway/Default.asp?ParentI...


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-27 19:22 [#01163598]
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Two peas in a pod! That's what I picked up at Staples, the
a300. And now I'm watching the game, documenting it forever.
Ruslan Fedotenko got a roughing penalty and I'll never
forget it because of my Canon Powershot.

I'm liking it, seems to be better than what I needed, at a
price that was lower than expected. Satisfied.


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offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-04-27 19:25 [#01163605]
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be sure to pick up some rechargable NiMH batteries - i got
the white/limegreen duracell ones - and they are much better
then regular ones

be sure to spend some time reading the manual and exploring
all the colour and lighting features - otherwise your
pictures will be crap depending on the lighting

you had any experience in photography?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-04-27 19:26 [#01163608]
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that was quick...looks nice...and so do those speakers :)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-27 19:35 [#01163629]
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Zero experience, but I have several landmarks and buildings
and stuff around town I plan of photographing. I'm
constantly on Deviantart saving architecture and scenery and
whatnot, and I always wanted to do it myself. Definitely
looking forward to using and abusing this camera, I have
some learning to do.

Thing is definitely a battery muncher, though... gotta get
rechargables as soon as possible.

Also got Hitman- Contracts. After the hockey game, I will
kill so many people in cold blood (bad, dark pic, I know...
the flash was reflecting off the white surface and screwing
it up, I'm an amateur).


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offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-04-30 00:37 [#01167896]
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Canon 300D (6.3 megapixels)
Canon 17-40mm f/4 L USM
Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 L USM
Canon 50mm f/1.8 II
Canon 420EX Speedlite flash

... and some accessories that are too boring to mention
here... :)


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-05-02 14:03 [#01170221]
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oh my god.

the day after i posted here suggesting you get that camera -
guess what - my camera gets lost.

i fucking lost my camera at school.

...my CAMERA!!!! argh.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-05-02 14:11 [#01170233]
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'stole'... and we know who to look forr.


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-05-02 14:15 [#01170235]
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ill be on the next flight to Halifax...


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-05-11 16:27 [#01183102]
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so how's the new digi treating you Ophecks?


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-06-02 18:33 [#01220306]
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YES YES YES YES YES!

i just got my digital camera replaced

i got a Canon Powershot A310 :D

and a 128mb compact flash card too :D

oh man im so happy!


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-02 18:43 [#01220321]
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Treating me well, I've taken over 150,000 pictures of my cat
since I've bought it.

I'm really enjoying the camera I stole from you using
telekinesis.


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offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-06-02 18:49 [#01220331]
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thats a lot of damn pictures


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-02 18:51 [#01220335]
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Well, give or take 149, 950.

PS, I contradicted myself stupidly in that last post. And
how much are those big flash cards? I still have that lame
16MB one that came with the cam.


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-06-02 18:54 [#01220340]
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i got a 128mb one for $60

and the model i got came with a 32mb one :D


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-06-02 21:09 [#01220389]
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i've got a very nice panasonic fz-10. takes excellent
pictures.


 

offline xf from Australia on 2004-06-03 02:51 [#01220551]
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i have a 320x240 webcam, it's great

doesn't even need batteries!


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-03 03:15 [#01220574]
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I've got a Casio QV-R40 and it's fucking dope. 4mp, 3x
optical zoom, it can also be used as a time machine.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 13:39 [#01441647]
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casio is a pocket calculator brand. Did you not know this?

'fucking dope' ? are you taking the piss?

i bought a canon powershot s1 just now, so i rule.

<3 canon


 

offline Intruder from Chicago (United States) on 2005-01-01 15:40 [#01441716]
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Spend a little more and get yourself a Canon SD200. it
retails for 299.

Its a phenominal camera. takes gorgeous photos, has great
features, awesome battery, abd has the ability to take 1
minute 60 fps movies, or 30 fps movies. if you use a high
speed SD card, you can take 30 fps movies until you run out
of room on the card.

i have owned about 7 digital camera's and this s by far my
favorite. its smaller than a pack of marlboro's as well.

stay away from fuji. they use XD cards.


 

offline dopper from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-01-01 16:06 [#01441734]
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what about some good software to organize and manipulate
digital images with. any recommendations?


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 17:40 [#01441835]
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photoshop?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-01 17:50 [#01441838]
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Best cheap digital cameras:

Canon A85
Kodak DX6490 (This camera is fucking awesome)


 

offline Motha Fucka from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2005-01-01 17:54 [#01441844]
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Buy whatever with 3.2 Megapixels and digital zoom.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 18:09 [#01441859]
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i really don't see any improvement in the a85 compared to
the a80, which has a flip out lcd, yet it is more
expensive.

check:

side by side

i've used the a80 for some time and really enjoyed it. the
flip out lcd is fantastic imo, which is why i went for the
powershot s1 (also VERY reasonably priced).



 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 18:10 [#01441860]
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digital zoom is entirely useless without optical zoom, so i
would not advise anyone to get a camera with just that..


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-01-01 18:12 [#01441864]
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i never knew what's the difference between the two??


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-01 18:20 [#01441867]
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optical:

the lens itself zooms. you can see it move. 'real' zoom.
image quality remains equal with each step.

digital:

well i have no idea how this works, but you can compare it
to zooming in on images with any kind of computer software.
the quality gets less with each step. Digital zooming
decreases image quality.

I suppose Lee knows more about this.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-01 18:22 [#01441868]
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Optical zoom uses the lens of the camera to zoom the image
which still uses the entire CCD sensor of the camera.
Digital zoom essentially uses a smaller area of the sensor
and then uses a software algorithm to resize the image to
the size of the set resolution.

Essentially digital zoom can be acheived by taking a picture
with digital zoom off and then using Photoshop to crop the
image and resize it up to whatever resolution the camera is.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-01 18:24 [#01441870]
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As Jeroen said...with the higher zoom the worse picture
quality because you are effectively resizing on an
increasingly smaller number of pixels.

Really you should never use digital zoom if you are taking
serious photographs.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-01 18:25 [#01441871]
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Yeah. Optical provides the data, Digital does the
processing. You can be assured that the digital zoom will
be done well, but you'd still rather have optical. Digital
is a cheap way to get higher zoom though, so there's nothing
wrong with a manufacturer tagging on some digital zoom to
already strong optical zoom, but rather it's efficient use
of money.


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-01-01 18:25 [#01441872]
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digital zoom reduces the resolution to make the shot closer,
like if you re cuting it on photoshop.
optical zoom is a real analog zoom, wich dont low the
quality of the pic.

i hope you can understand it, os the better i could do in
english :/


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-01-01 18:27 [#01441876]
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hm, i am too slow


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-01-01 18:30 [#01441879]
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i see..how do i know when my cam is using digital zoom
though? i know about the optical since the lence moves :)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-01 18:35 [#01441883]
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Most digital cameras show it either in the LCD or viewfinder
when it enters into digital zoom. Another thing you
normally get is a slight pause between the optical zoom
finishing and the digital zoom being engaged.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-01 18:35 [#01441884]
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You can also turn digital zoom off completely on some
cameras.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-01-01 20:47 [#01441948]
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thanks...looks like i'll have to read the manuals now :)

i'll check out these options so i can see what's the
difference in reality :-)


 

offline chambre noire from Iceland on 2005-01-01 22:45 [#01442046]
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Sony DSC W1


 


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