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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 03:08 [#00431454]
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Today is george's birthday, and surprisingly, my mom gave me the nirvana-album... hehe. she knows how crazy i used to be about nirvana, plus i've told everyone how much i love You Know You're Right... so i guess it's not THAT surprising. But i probably wouldn't have bought it myself.
I think it's disgusting. I so much adored the way they released the unplugged-album after kurt's death... without even mentioning his death, just the beautiful music and pretty artwork.
But this album... it has some sort of a eulogy written by david fricke (who?) in it... which is very sentimental and well... just crap really :-/
In my opinion they should have just printed lots of photographs of the band, and let everyone have their own thoughts while listening to the music.
Now it's full of things like: "(about dumb) 'i think i'm dumb, maybe just happy' Kurt was never the former, still aching for the latter."
They also changed the nirvana "logo"... meaning the word "nirvana" written in that specific font. When you look at all the nirvana-releases, you'll see the spacing between the letters is a little weird, and the v is kinda seperated... like it says: "nir v ana". (because the cover for bleach was created in a great hurry, the typographer didn't have time to correct it). But they corrected it for this release... hm... i mean: why? My god... Don't the people at Geffen have any sense of tradition? It's a small detail ofcourse, but i noticed it immediately.
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 03:16 [#00431456]
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I agree... If it had been unreleased material that had been newly restored then it would be a bit more special for fans instead of a cash in.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 03:23 [#00431459]
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The music is wonderful ofcourse... but i already knew it! Greatest Hits albums are the worst rip-off since... eh... i dunno, maybe they are just the worst rip-off period. Unlike most people here i don't hate the music-industry and am against illegal mp3's... but it's releases like this that make me wonder if maybe i should start hating them too ;-)
Still... You Know You're Right remains a great song, i'm starting to like it more and more! It's up there with the best songs on In Utero.
"sliver" is a different version than on incesticide... here it's the single-version, and i've never been able to find the single :-) It's a great song! My favourite on incesticide, and one of nirvana's best.
heart-shape box is apparantly also a single-version that differs from the in utero-version (i don't hear any differences though :-p)
"pennyroyal tea" is here in a new mix done by Scott Litt. Apparantly Kurt was unhappy with how it sounded on In Utero, and had Scott Litt redo it for a single-release (booklet: "Litt's treatment is finally on record, and we can hear PT the way Kurt wanted to hear it.") There are really only small differences though.
All in all, the only reason one might have for buying it is YKYR, which should have just been avaiable on a single!
However i DO enjoy listening to this album... hehe... have been playing it all morning! :-o Makes you wonder...
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 03:27 [#00431460]
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Hopefully we'll get that somewhere next year... if everything goes alright. Can't wait for the unreleased material! But i think i'm going to kill someone if the $#@-people of Geffen include YKYR on the boxset too... grrrr
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 03:37 [#00431470]
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They know how to make money... :/
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diablo
on 2002-11-07 03:52 [#00431488]
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Greatest Hits albums are also held over artists heads like a threat.. ie: release another album this year or we put out a greatest hits and thats you over. Obviously this doesn't apply to Nirvana.
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 03:55 [#00431493]
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Unless you're David Bowie. Now THAT was the best investment this week for me. Its even got that collaboration with NIN "Im Afraid Of Americans" on it too. ;)
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 03:55 [#00431495]
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But this is a Nirvana topic.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 04:29 [#00431522]
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that's just evil! :-o Does it really happen like that? Man... if i was an artist i'd hate that! I'd rather record a crap uninspired album in a couple of weeks then have a greatest hits album released.
At least they shouldn't include the new song with each greatest hits album! Just the old hits, so the fans can skip it and it's just for more recent fans who don't feel like buying the entire back-catalogue.
greedy bastards
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 04:32 [#00431525]
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topics can evolve... it happens all the time on this board, and i like that :-)
know nothing about a davidbowie-compilation though...
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selfequiv
from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-07 04:34 [#00431527]
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I think Nirvana was fucking wank, and maked wank music!
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diablo
on 2002-11-07 04:35 [#00431528]
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Bowie is an exception! He must have had 4 or 5 greatest hits albums out over the years!
But yeah i've heard it happens to bands a lot.
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diablo
on 2002-11-07 04:36 [#00431532]
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"maked wank music" lol you twat.
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selfequiv
from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-07 04:38 [#00431534]
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Sorry for my English. But I just stated an opinion!
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diablo
on 2002-11-07 04:42 [#00431541]
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Fair enough! What exactly is wank about it? (I'm not even a huge Nirvana fan but they were a brilliant band in my opinion)
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selfequiv
from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-07 04:46 [#00431543]
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I fucking hate guitarrs and i think their muski stinks in general.
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selfequiv
from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-07 04:46 [#00431544]
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music, i mean.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 05:02 [#00431551]
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maybe you are too young to fully understand the genius of nirvana :-p (i noticed you are from '85 so...)
Growing up with all that "postgrunge" crap on the radio, i can understand how you might not get what was so special about nirvana because all the other guitar-crap tries to imitate it.... and it that sense sounds just like it
God... listening to this album makes me feel old :-/ I'm starting to feel all sentimental about these songs and stuff... and i'm only 24! :-p
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 05:04 [#00431554]
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or ofcourse you just don't like it :-) Didn't mean to sound all superior there, sorry. IDM and nirvana are miles apart, it's only natural many idm-fans would find nirvana "wank"
That seems like a very explicit avatar, by the way :-p
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selfequiv
from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-07 05:05 [#00431555]
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yeah
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selfequiv
from avd12 (Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)) on 2002-11-07 05:06 [#00431557]
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but i never realy listend to radio at all, so i just dont like it.
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-07 12:59 [#00432076]
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it's not even got that many songs on it.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 13:01 [#00432080]
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it has all the hits and otherwise "wellknown" tracks... what more could you expect?
You can say about the cd what you want, but it can't be accused of being incomplete!
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-07 13:13 [#00432092]
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sorrrry i hang my head in shame...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 13:17 [#00432101]
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I bet you that a Nirvana 'Greatest Hits' gets released every 2 years or so now.... look at other bands who had these collections released with different tracklistings every time (Stone Roses, Zeppelin, Sabbath etc). Total rip off.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 13:26 [#00432112]
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(who is that guy in your avatar?!? I feel like he is gazing directly into my soul. It's a great pic though... i like the other one you have of him (the optimistic smiling one) even better).
And i hadn't even thought of that... :-s I fear you may be right... oh dear lord... i'll bet they'll even dig up something new to put on each of these releases... forcing me to buy it... aarrgh... i can already picture it...
"nirvana - the ultimate collection"
And they only released 3 official albums during their time! How long are they going to be able to milk them?
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Anus_Presley
on 2002-11-07 13:29 [#00432114]
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its happens to the best of them, we can't fight the evil forrces of EMI...
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 13:30 [#00432116]
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bleach nevermind incesticide in utero
does incesticide not count?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 13:30 [#00432119]
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here is a link to my pic =o)
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 13:31 [#00432120]
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Has anyone got any of those 'Outcesticide' CDs?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 13:36 [#00432127]
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nah it doesn't! Incesticide is just a bunch of previously unreleased tracks. I don't consider that an album at all... it was just something the record co. released to fill the gap between nevermind & in utero.
I consider something an album when all the songs were written to be put just there, so that they become a unity together... more than just a bunch of loose songs.
I've only heard rumours about outcesticide-cd's... never seen one myself
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 13:42 [#00432135]
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heh :-) so just an actor... there is something about the two pics you're using though! On most of the other pics he looks like just some guy... wouldn't have noticed him if you had used those.
He looks so... happy, optimistic and yet naive in your pictures :-)
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Asche XL
on 2002-11-07 13:47 [#00432137]
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I do, 2 of them.
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Asche XL
on 2002-11-07 13:49 [#00432142]
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-Nevermind- -Bleach- -In Utero- -Incesticide- -From the Muddy banks of Wishka- -Unplugged in NY- -Outcesticide 1 & 2-
hope I didnt forget any (?)
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 13:53 [#00432144]
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those Outcesticide ones anygood?
One of them has got some Eulogies on, that put me off a bit :-/
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 14:02 [#00432154]
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but outcesticide are bootlegs right?! I've got about 20 nirvana-bootlegs... but wouldn't count them in any official discography :-p
You might want to include Hormoaning in your little list. An ep only released in Japan, but by Geffen records and thus an official release :-)
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-11-07 14:11 [#00432162]
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Hormoaning, I'm sure I've heard of that!
Is there another live 'album', but called "live in europe" or is that a video or something?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 17:52 [#00432352]
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nirvana - hormoaning
1. Turnaround 2. Aneurysm 3. D-7 4. Son Of A Gun 5. Even In His Youth 6. Molly's Lips
As you can see, only one song (D-7, and that's even a cover) that's not available anywhere else. I've got this ep, but rarely ever listen to it... it's just not so great ;-)
I don't know anything about "live in europe"? The only official nirvana-video ever made was called Live! Tonight! Sold out! and was quite amusing i thought. Worth checking out if you're a fan of the band!
The most interesting bootleg i've ever been able to find is called "rare traxx" and contains all sorts of weird unreleased stuff opinion, junkyard, verse chorus verse & sappy are particularly interesting (good songs). The soundquality is horrible though... i'd be thrilled if those were to be released on a future rarities-compilation!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-07 18:08 [#00432366]
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you idiot
unplugged was released when kurt cobain was still alive
and if you don't like nirvana, or don't appreciate them then don't f**king buy their cds. simple.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-07 18:12 [#00432371]
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unplugged was released when kurt cobain was still alive
no it wasn't...
i think kurt was already dead by November 1st, 1994 (releasedate of the unplugged album).
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-07 18:17 [#00432372]
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yeah you definately got the date right i remember buying it. i apologise if he hadn't shot himself in the head by then : /
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-11-09 19:29 [#00434969]
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Jesus Christ, for years the only Nirvana I had was the CDs of Nevermind, In Utero, and Incesticide. I never heard Bleach till last night, and it's fucking awesome, better than the later stuff. I'm now going to hang myself for not buying this CD many years ago with the rest of them.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-09 19:38 [#00434973]
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no don't hang yourself. do a copycat shotgun in the mouth suicide, then we can have a really long thread about it, and what your death actually means to us all.
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Asche XL
on 2002-11-09 21:19 [#00434999]
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Tsk Tsk ophecks. Im disapointed.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2002-11-10 18:07 [#00435878]
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i've just found out bleach has been re-released in the UK recently on white vinyl if anyone wants it get it now while you still can!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2002-11-10 18:30 [#00435918]
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really? Hm... i hardly ever listen to bleach at all. Whenever i do listen to it, it's never as bad as i always seem to think it is... but it only leaves me wanting to listen to In Utero some more! :-p
Blew, about a girl & school are alright though...
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-11-11 04:39 [#00436565]
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Outcesticides were OK, I got all of them, I own a whole shit load of Nirvana bootlegs, I own a video tape of a nirvana show in 1989 with their original drummer Chad. Its a GREAT video and very rare too. They are defenitly one of my all time fav bands, of which I made it an effort to collect bootlegs and stuff.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-11-11 04:59 [#00436583]
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Bleach is totally awsome. Still got my original copy.
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diablo
on 2002-11-11 05:03 [#00436588]
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White Vinyl... *salivates*
Bleach is so good. Nirvana were so good. Only had the first 2 albums though.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-11-11 05:04 [#00436590]
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I love it all.... Nirvana is great.
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