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offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-08 23:44 [#00639995]
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7 months ago, my girlfriend and I broke up. We had been
dating for just over 2 years.

When we first started dating she lived here in the same town
I do, but soon she moved away to become a full time college
student while I remained a full time cubicle drone living in
the house I had just bought about an hour and a half away.

For 2 years, we took turns driving back and fourth to see
each other on weekends. During the summers, she would live
with her parents here in my town and we would get to see
quite a bit of each other.

This fall however, the burden of our distance caught up to
us. She decided that she could not maintain a relationship
with me and also have a life of her own where she lived, and
that it was impossible for her to grow as a person splitting
herself between these two worlds. I understood this, and the
relationship ended. There was no cheating, lying or
fighting; it was distance that was out demise.

For the next several months, we barely communicated. At
first this was at her request, thinking that communication
with me could tempt her away from the life she was
attempting to build apart from me. In recent months however,
we have been talking more... the occasional email, the brief
late night phone call. In these recent exchanges, we had
begun to talk about how we might be able to be together
again. We were both still in love with each other and we
both felt it unfair to deny ourselves that bond, a bond that
was still very strong after all this mess.

I let her know that by April, I would have concocted some
strategy that would be the basis for our future.. and on
Sunday, I drove to meet her, to let her know that I was
moving there.. to live with her.

I feel that this is what had to be done. While the decision
may appear rash, if it were not orchestrated immediately,
then all hope of ever being together again would be lost. I
would much rather fail at trying, than fail because no
effort was made.

We are both excited about what's happening. And we are both
remarkably positive


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-08 23:44 [#00639999]
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about what is in store, this being a true testament of our
feelings for each other, as most people who move away from
each other and barely talk for 7 months do not decide, in
one day, to move in together.

This is wherein lies my reasoning for posting.. Naturally,
the two of us have some concerns about the arrangement.
Chiefly, how do we transition from not seeing or hearing
from each other, to living together? I plan on moving in
June/July, but details need to be worked out as soon as
possible. The whole thing is as strange as it is wonderful.


I know it's a bit odd to seek counseling on an electronic
music messageboard, but honestly.. you guys are some of my
dearest friends. And the only real friend whose opinion I
care about is a member of the community as well, so I
thought I’d see what everyone thinks. Does anyone have a
similar experience, could anyone provide me with some
guidance?

I know this is a very long post, and I thank you for taking
the time to read through it. I've really had to leave out
many details, but hopefully I haven’t skewed the point.

Thank you for your time.



 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-08 23:48 [#00640005]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



wow. i know from experience that long distance relationships
are a really hard thing to maintain, and it's no wonder it
has caused strain for you 2 in the past. i guess if you
think this is the best option, than it is. i would say be
prepared for a bumpy transition. if it's not, then cool...
but expect it to be disorienting. i guess my advice would be
to BE AWARE... of HER and her thoughts and feelings, and of
your own. patience is also necessary for 2 people who are
making a big step like this.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-04-08 23:49 [#00640006]
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Don't over analyse anything...just do what ever you feel
like doing at the time and never have any regrets.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-08 23:49 [#00640008]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



oh, and i forgot... good luck.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-04-08 23:56 [#00640016]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker



Good luck indeed. All girls I've encountered are nothing but
trouble.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-08 23:57 [#00640018]
Points: 8249 Status: Lurker | Followup to pomme de terre: #00639999



first GOOD LUCK to BOTH of you!

second, a question. have you ever lived together? IF not,
you should set up some ground rules from the GET GO about
that (everything, even the littlest details about who will
do what/when), cos that is one of the MOST stressful things
you can do, especially with what little contact you've had
over the past several months (and i'm assuming never having
lived together before).

third, only similarity i have is having a long distance
relationship, which has it's ups and downs. that said, it's
THE MOST important relationship in my life (next to my
immediate family) and the WORK it takes can be daunting, but
i wouldn't change anything about it, for the moment cept
being a closer flying distance so i could visit more than
once a month.

i hope that you have happy news to report AFTER getting
settled. just take things a day at a time, and keep in focus
your hopes for the future. REMEMBER little things MEAN A
LOT!

peas =0)


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-09 00:00 [#00640027]
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no, we have not lived together. please give me an example of
one of these who what when little details.. i appreciate
your advice.. i'd like to know exactly what you meant by
that.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:10 [#00640047]
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little things mean a lot = never forgetting those lil
romantic things that made her feel special in the beginning.
it doesn't have to be anything more than telling her you
love her and giving her a flower you picked from the side of
the road. SMALL gestures mean more than BIG ones
sometimes.......it's those little KINDNESSES that people
remember, especially during the rough patches!

in case you didn't know....living together can put a ROMANCE
on hold. never forget the things you do/did to WOO her, as i
mentioned above.

everything you do for her, will usually come back to you 2
fold.....TRUST ME!

things to make her feel special ......ie surprising her by
making a romantic picnic dinner to have in the middle of
your living room in the middle of the week, taking her out
to see a sunset, holding her hand, and putting the toliet
seat down.......i think you get the gist of it........T hee


 

offline Charles D Ward from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:11 [#00640049]
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you'll get no good advice from me, i'm a clown who's good
for toilet jokes, nothing more, but no matter how silly it
sounds, i'm with you :D

don't forget you two are different people, don't demand
anything from her, the only thing i can think of that saved
a lot of relationships


 

offline Charles D Ward from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:13 [#00640052]
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i know it's not nice of me to say that, but LeCoeur will do
you no good man :\


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:15 [#00640055]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



why do you say that? i think her advice was spot-on. who
better to give advice to a man on this than another woman?


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:17 [#00640061]
Points: 8249 Status: Lurker | Followup to Charles D Ward: #00640052



hahahhahah

you just can't resist HATING me.....i love it tho......keep
it up it only makes me STRONGER lil boy! =b


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:18 [#00640064]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



wow. i think i just stepped into the middle of something
here. i'm uh, i'm just gonna go now.


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:22 [#00640070]
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LETS STICK to ze topic!

sorry i took the bait!

no worries i can handle myself with this little kid, his
nano second of my attention is ovah.......

*is happy about Pom's good news*


 

offline Charles D Ward from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:22 [#00640071]
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yeah, a woman, but not LeCoeur, not her.

many women get it all too wrong and live an inbred life of
their own stereotypes and stupid rules and etcetera and i'm
not very good at englihs so i'll talk no more

"set up some ground rules from the GET GO about
that (everything, even the littlest details about who will
do what/when), cos that is one of the MOST stressful things
you can do, especially with what little contact you've had
over the past several months (and i'm assuming never having
lived together before). "


what a pile of uselessness >:(

sorry, just don't EVER listen to LeCoeur


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:23 [#00640075]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



wow. there is SO much animosity on this board lately...
kinda makes one think about taking a few days off. seems
like everyday a fight or skirmish breaks out.

ah well, some people just don't get along. oil and water.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-04-09 00:40 [#00640106]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker | Followup to Charles D Ward: #00640071



dood, you can hate LeCoeur all you want, but keep it to
yourself.

She is contributing thought and honesty to help out another
member of our community.

If you disagree with her, fine, say why and have a
discussion about it, but for fucks sake that last thing you
need to do is needlessly flame a kind and gentle spirit for
no reason.

Pomme: listen to what LeCoeur says, good advice in there.
You have followed your heart this far, trust it, but watch
out for little things to catch you off guard, good luck
mate!


 

offline loeser from Beaverville (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-09 00:57 [#00640117]
Points: 455 Status: Lurker



Relationships are like plants. They need to be taken care
of. The more work you put into them the bigger the chance
you get a nice plant out of it ;-)
Good luck to both of you and if it doesn't work out at least
you won't be blaming yourselves the rest of both your lifes
for not trying.


 

offline Cabbog from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-04-09 01:23 [#00640138]
Points: 2294 Status: Regular



All women are cannibalistic, even if they don't literally
tear the meat from one's bones. They devour time, money,
attention, and give treachery in return. I have long
learned to avoid them.

--philosophy from the deck of Cabbog's pirate ship

That said, does she mind videogames or getting her stereo
equipment pissed on(in)? If she's okay with both of those
then you've definately got a keeper on your hands.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-04-09 04:26 [#00640372]
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"set up some ground rules from the GET GO about
that (everything, even the littlest details about who will
do what/when), cos that is one of the MOST stressful things

you can do, especially with what little contact you've had
over the past several months (and i'm assuming never having

lived together before). "

what a pile of uselessness >:(

what a crap comment charles, the worst problem in living
with someone is little stuff like house work.. what lecoeur
just said might solve that problem, but it probably wont,
but its worth a try anyway.

what i'd like to say to pomme, DON'T promise to her to clean
up etc. if you wont. be equal with her. don't be a bastard.
(voice of bitterness)


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-04-09 05:11 [#00640412]
Points: 4819 Status: Addict



I cant really offer any good advice since ive never been in
a relationship of any kind for obvious reasons. All I can do
is offer you something to consider.

I realize that is a frietening transition. Going from barely
speaking to picking wich side of the bed you want to sleep
on.

so here is my suggestion:
Move somewhere close to her. Within driving
distance.


I dont see how this could (god forbid) harm the
realationship. It would help you in these ways:

1)It would get you close enough in proximty to becoming her
regular, steady boyfriend. Youre still both in love and you
know each other intamatley enough.

2) It would allow you to have enough time to gradually
rebuild the comfort level untill youre confident
enough that its an appropriate time in your realtionship to
move in together.

3) It would get you the hell out of Mayberry or where ever
the hell you live. Youre considering moving to her town
anyway, right?. Cubed Slave labor is in high demand across
the country. Finding a job in a college town shouldnt prove
so difficult.

4) If things went awry, and lets pray that they dont.

a. Your not living with her. Preventing the
nightmarish possibility of achward days of silence, and
domestic violence. (not that your violent or anything, just
an added precoutionary measure)

b. Welcome to college girl country. Record your own girls
gone wild tape. Then send it to me.

As long as you have a job and housing. Why not do something
drastic? You could rot in Punksatony alone for the rest of
your life if you want. I hope you have a pretty cousin.


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2003-04-09 05:25 [#00640430]
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i'm inclined to agree with mr. dolleater. things COULD get
weirdly just because the 'comfort level' (well put, by the
way) may be a bit off because you've been apart for so long.
it's not to say that you couldn't move in and be perfectly
wonderful together and have it seem like no time has passed
at all, but i'm willing to bet that the first little while
will be uncomfortable for the both of you.

i dunno. wish i had something constructive to add. heh. ah
well. good luck, guy. =)


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-04-09 05:34 [#00640439]
Points: 4605 Status: Regular



didn't read much of the later posts, but i think lecoeur is
pretty much onto it.

were you living alone before, or with other people? ..
anyway.. this is going to be painfully obvious, point (but
someone's got to make it right?) .. erm ..

all i'd offer is more functional advice re: living together
(not so much the romance side of things). make explicit, and
be honest what needs to be done around the house, ie.
cleaning/vacuuming floors, dishes etc. If someone is finniky
about say the cleanliness of the toilet, this should be
respected, we all have our little "things"

From experience, implicit assumptions and such can result in
a lot of uneccessary tension and stress .. putting
everything on the table at the start saves a lot of
potential heart ache later.

it doesn't have to be a fascist cleaning regime, but just
sort of a rough idea type thing?

good luck dude .. take her easy


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-04-09 05:44 [#00640458]
Points: 7824 Status: Lurker



jobs come and go, this girl sounds important to you, do it
if it feels right


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-09 05:46 [#00640461]
Points: 10836 Status: Lurker



Didn't read much of this thread but I think it's about a
girl. I say shoot the bitch in the head and dump her in the
river.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-04-09 05:52 [#00640467]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular



*feels another >500 post thread coming on :)*

well if id advise you (and you were to follow it) things
would prolly fuck up..

but i just wanted to say good luck to you!

"I would much rather fail at trying, than fail because
no effort was made. "
thats the spirit! i hope thinks
work out fine between you 2


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-09 06:13 [#00640481]
Points: 4669 Status: Lurker



good luck to you in this situation pomme, i hope it works
out good. i am in a similar situation myself right now, my
girl has been in australia for the past two months, she gets
back here in 2 weeks. i haven't seen her and only spoke to
her about a dozen times since she has been gone. but when
she gets back i will be sharing her house with her...! i am
really worried that things will go tits-up between me and
her, but the best thing to do that i can see is just give a
shit about her even more than you did before! i have had 3
long term relationships now (4years, 2 years and 2 years),
and have enough experience now to know how to handle the
situation (i hope!).

all i can say to keep things sweet is:

1. don't be a messy fucker!
2. never let her do your laundry, when she is washing your
underwear for you, where's the intimacy/ secrets/fun in
that?
3.take her out at least once a week to somewhere she wants
to go, i.e. no snares gig type scenario.....ie dinner out
somewhere.
4. buy her stuff. anything that shows you care.
5. never get caught wanking/ throw out your porn!
6. let her THINK she's in charge.

good luck, let me know how it goes, i will need advice as
much as you will!


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-04-09 06:15 [#00640483]
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i'd be exited if my bf would take me to a snares gig :(( or
any gig (ok we're going to king crimson gig but anyway)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-04-09 07:14 [#00640571]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker



wow. totally fucking wow.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-09 07:18 [#00640578]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



everytime i see this topic, i forget what its about and
think pomme is dying or something... or hiding a body...


 

offline Fernz from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-09 07:28 [#00640597]
Points: 1692 Status: Regular



Good luck to you mate... *hugs*


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-09 08:50 [#00640736]
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Thanks for all the advice. I should clarify a few things.

*I am obligated to my current job until possibly December. I
plan on commuting back here during this time. There are 2
other people at the office that live there, so a carpool can
be devised. My point being, If I were to move closer
to her, it would be somewhat of a dissapointment as I could
see as much of her if I didn't live there at all.. I do
appreciate that advice though dolleater, if for anything,
the fact that it wasn't 'woo, go for it dood!'.

*We have until June/July before we actually move in to a
place together. We plan on dating until then. Worst
case scenario, we decide we hate eachother all of the sudden
and we are out deposit money and first months rent.. somehow
I doubt this will happen though. hmm.. I don't know. I'll
let you know how that goes.

*There are alot of references to cleaning/housework.
*stares at ashtray with 47 ciggarette butts* wow,
thanks for the advance warning on that. I am absolutely
willing to do my part. But I am 24 and have been living
completely by myself for over a year.. I do let myself go
from time to time. There will be a learning curve, I'm
sure.

* She would probably really like to go to a venetian snares
show actually. Shes a big fan of electronic music. In fact
she's a member of the xltronic community and probably
reading this right now. Hi.

*Epohs, I know. I feel the same way. I know it had to be
strange to hear about this on the board.. but c'mon, it's
Holland. Of course it's going to play out all
unconventional. Hopefully we can talk about this dude to
dude esta noche.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-04-09 08:55 [#00640747]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker



great! now what the fuck am I s'posed to do in this
shithole?

*moves BACK to asheville*

*sees kat*

*realizes the permanance of my own singleness*

*sepuku*


 

offline Charles D Ward from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-04-09 09:05 [#00640774]
Points: 1072 Status: Addict



I don't hate LeCoeur

LeCoeur's advices just don't work, that's all.

Never.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-09 10:06 [#00640951]
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>Dollater: You could rot in Punksatony alone for the rest
of
your life if you want. I hope you have a pretty cousin.


I think this had the most impact of anything anyone has
said.

C'mon guys, there's a shitload of people online right now.
Surely someone else has some input.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-04-09 10:41 [#00641051]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker



I’m an embittered old emotional cripple. I’d
offer my standard pessimistic advice, but it’d prolly
be me projecting fears of my own past failures onto
you… plus, you’ve heard it all before, and
undoubtedly will again.

Fact of the matter is, she seems like a good girl from what
few drunken memories I have, and you’re young enough
to do crazy shit still.

To R.: Just don’t break my pal
please.



 

offline ifkardo from 785.8 mb of radio babylon (Equatorial Guinea) on 2003-04-09 11:06 [#00641079]
Points: 1135 Status: Lurker



yo, one more keep yourself busy!!!! so as you bug the shit
out of her all at once... gradualy then bug the shit out of
her... unless it's finals week, oh yeah don't fucking bother
her when she tells you she is busy with school, EVER!!! i
fucking hate that shit!!! i am in a very sim. sit. as you
can tell...


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-04-09 11:13 [#00641087]
Points: 5696 Status: Lurker



bill_hicks!

where are you???


 

offline nacmat on 2003-04-09 11:15 [#00641089]
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man that is LOVE!!

congratulations, you are feeling the best a person can feel
ever... love

if you two always put your love in every act nothing, can go
wrong

I wish you luck and I think she is lucky to have you

my best wishes


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-04-09 11:15 [#00641090]
Points: 4819 Status: Addict | Followup to epohs: #00641051



Quiet or youll distrub my idiot grandson.

Outsiders are commin?

No Guthro, just play with your washboard.

Shhhh...


 


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