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let's throw a street party!! the is marlowe from the block |
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i take it you'll light the 2 candles on the cake? |
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YAY ! Let's go joing a magnificent 19 party |
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if you know peeps who died two years ago it aint really that happy.....marlowe me ol china. |
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two candles on the cake! lol |
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those are the twin candles. |
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I can't belive it's been 2 years ! |
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I can't believe it's not butter ! |
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utterly butterly clover for your blooming generation! |
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yesterday I saw a nice documetary about the reasons for the towers falling.... I mean a detailed investigation on how each tower failed for different structural reasons |
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yeah and why they didnt tell people in the second tower to evacuate straight away after the first tower got hit......... |
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well 25000 people work on each tower, and by the time the plane crashed on the second tower, "only" 500 were in floors above the impact... so I believe that most of the popele working on south tower did really evacuate the building |
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yeah well i dunno.....:) nacmat i always wanted to ask you this: why dont you get a cheap record player? :D |
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swedish foreign minister, Anna Lindh, was stubbed yesterday. she died due to her wounds earlier this morning. it's not a happy day. |
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I just read that on the news. sorry phob, I wish this things didnt happen... |
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give me time mate |
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she was very pro euro... you think that could have something to do? |
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i dont know - we wont know until they've caught the murderer. |
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Weird - I think a Scottish women MP was stabbed yesterday, also - last I heard she was in a serious condition. . . |
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more and more people seem to stab other people these days....it s frightening, i see 15 year old kids with knives and stuff and they hang around in gangs and go out to look for fights. i hate it... miss lindh was stabbed in a shopping mall......were youd least expect it really....... |
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Damn, I heard she was in a "serious, but not life threatening condition" yesterday :( Reckon it was to do with it being near Sept. 11th? (I've always thought it'd be "good" for terrorists to attack something every sept 11th- it'd cause widespread panic in the run up to it...) |
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oh wait there . . . I think maybe I had THOUGHT it was a Scottish Women MP - looks like I was actually referring to the same person as you . . . a Swede |
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Didn't Bin Laden have something also to say to the world? I thought I heard something on the news yesterday....maybe I was wrong |
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Happy September 11th? I don't think the US instigated overthrow of the democratically elected government of Chile on this day in 1973 is cause for happy commemoration. However, September 11th is also the anniversay of Ghandi's 'passive non co-operation' against the British in India. That's worth a mention. |
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in that case: Happy September 11th |
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Happy September 11th !! we got 2.5" of rain last night !! and today its rainy and cloudy !! wOØt ! |
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jedi: yeah i heard something about a tape from sama-g and his buddy - stuff about iraq in it etc .. released on al-jazeera .. i read that in a paper, only thing they said was that bush didn't comment on it, because he hadn't heard the tape?? |
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Happy 9-11 Comforting Wisdom about America and the World Q: Mummy, why did we have to attack Iraq? A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction. Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction. A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them. Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq? A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections. Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass destruction, did we? A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election. Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction? A: To use them in a war, silly. Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to war with them? A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend themselves. Q: That doesn't make sense. Why would they choose to die if they had all those big weapons with which they could have fought back? A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense. Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those weapons our government said they did. A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway. Q: And what was that? A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another country. Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his country? A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people. Q: Kind of like what they do in China? A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic competitor,where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make U.S. corporations richer. Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate |
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gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people? A: Right. Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured? A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured. Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China? A: I told you, China is different. Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq? A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China is Communist. Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad? A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad. Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad? A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent to prison and tortured. Q: Like in Iraq? A: Exactly. Q: And like in China, too? A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other hand, is not. Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor? A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists like us. Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become capitalists? A: Don't be a smart-ass. Q: I didn't think I was being one. A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba. Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement? A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway. Q: What's a military coup? A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States. Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup? A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is our friend. Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if |
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: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate? A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate. Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate leader? A:Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he helped us invade Afghanistan. Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan? A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th. Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th? A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men ? fifteen of them Saudi Arabians ? hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings, killing over 3,000 Americans. Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that? A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive rule of the Taliban. Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off people's heads and hands? A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too. Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back in May of 2001? A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job fighting drugs. Q: Fighting drugs? A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing opium poppies. Q: How did they do such a good job? A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off. Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for other reasons? A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off people's hands for stealing bread. Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia? A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they |
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wear burqas whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not comply. Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too? A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering. Q: What's the difference? A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name. A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are our friends. Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia. A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan. Q: Who trained them? A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden. Q: Was he from Afghanistan? A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very bad man. Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once. A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s. Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald Reagan talked about? A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call them Russians now. Q: So the Soviets ? I mean, the Russians ? are now our friends? A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either. Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too? A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast. Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what |
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do what we want them to do? A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade. Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s? A: Well, yeah. For a while. Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then? A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him our friend, temporarily. Q: Why did that make him our friend? A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy. Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds? A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked the other way, to show him we were his friend. Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically becomes our friend? A: Most of the time, yes. Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an enemy? A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the better. Q: Why? A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is a godless unAmerican Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked Iraq? Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right? A: Yes. Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq? A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him what to do. Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because George W. Bush hears voices in his head? A. Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night. |
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Sorry about the length of this post, I would have provided a link but didnt have the original webpage as I got as an email. |
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tis ok, will read later. |
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thanksyou, a good read, entertaining and disturbing at the same time |
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You're both welcome, answers a few burning questions... |
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September 11th, doesn't seem like 2 years does it. I remember it as though it were yesterday, i can remember when i first heard the news. Me and a friend were walking home after school and a guy walked past us saying he had just got a text message saying the trade towers had been hit by planes. I got home and turned on the TV, it was like watching an action movie but it was happening for real. |
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hahahahahahaahaahahahah man, keep it going, its excellent. |
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Now what is the US government up to now? |
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same shite, different day |
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someone slap that kid. i can't wait for america's demise to show how the inevitable succeessing power uncannily follows the same coveted principals of stongarming and manipulation. what the have-nots may-not realize is that they are the same species, different roll of the dice. the united states gained much of their inertia via the destuction of a hundred or so japanese,,, ungodly shit. but then again, eurasia might still be bombing the hell out of their cities. these are not really american tendencies, they are human ones. we're just extreme at it because accesses are easier and scales are larger. i'm over all this 'look how ironical this situation is; we helped people who are killing us now'. boring. politicians make deals. they all sleep in the same dirty bed. if citing america as the origin of corruption and control makes you feel better, then...it makes you feel better. personally, sarcasm's not gonna work in the long run. |
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"destuction of a hundred or so japanese" I would say that kid has beome more enlightened Its clear that if it happens to someone elses country that it is only a handful of people that die in the process... check out these pictures and the cost of dropping bombs on Hiroshima... DAMAGE REPORT Some 90,000 to 100,000 persons are killed immediately; about 145,000 persons will perish from the bombing by the end of 1945. What you dont see in the news is candle vigils of the Japanese commenmerating the deaths and the contiuned suffering of their children and grandchildren from the effects of the bomb, with birth defects etc. Much of this suffering is going on in Iraq and Afghanistan due to depeleted uranium bombs carpet bombed, manufactured by US corporations. Do a search on this site for the Manhatten Project that goes back to around 1942. Or the Bush family having links to the Nazis on other sites. Many of the US corporations provide much of the money for the Republican Election campaigns, a handful of those are Miltary/Reconstruction companies who are in line for some of that $87 billion Bush is begging for. Not to forget the Around 50+ corporations, much US based own most of the worlds wealth more than small countries GDP and what about those gun laws and the funding Israel receives yearly for its weapons of mass destruction? The US may not be entirely responsible for the corruption and lies but it is working in its own corporations interests by power broking. |
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Just found out my dad had to break the news of her death to a family friend who knows Anna Lindh very well. She, like me had heard the condition was not life threatening and mentioned to my dad this morning that she hoped Anna would make a full recovery :( |
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yes, a hundred (thousand) of course that's what i meant, but thanks for the recap. |
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grreat fun thanks!!! |
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v gud article |
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sept 11 |
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"The US may not be entirely responsible for the corruption and lies but it is working in its own corporations interests". hard to imagine, huh. for sure bush and his whole clan are lookin out for no.1 before all else. they're blind mice for what my vote's worth. but if you don't teach that kid how to defend himself one way or the other, he's gonna get worked a little- regardless how bright he is. happens all around the world. |
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I can't believe it's been 30 years ! |
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Today isn't happy, it sucks, a bunch of innocent people in my country died. Oh, the United States bombed some country the same day 30 years ago? Oh well, I didn't fucking know that, so its still a bad day. |
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