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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-14 08:24 [#00513733]
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If either all your æ or your afx had to be burned, which ones should burn which would live...
..man i could've asked this in a less cruel way i think.. 'burn' ?
take 2: Which one do you prefer? (æ<->afx)
probably this has been posted before.. though i'm curious if it'll become such a long thread as the 'æ is extremely overrated' one.. :D
everybody goes nuts on this topic.. 'cause it's not discussable but just about opinions :D
still i think people will react on this
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2003-01-14 08:27 [#00513738]
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i could do without classics...
maybe tri-repetae...
lp5 will live, as will my On remixes disc.
christ I found the original downtown for 3 dollars... in the sale bin! (on remixes)
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-01-14 08:27 [#00513740]
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APHEXAPHEXAPHEX!!!!!
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-14 08:28 [#00513741]
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I have loads of AFX cuz I like AFX. I don't give a shit about AE but whatever... I just personally like AFX more. I have like 2 AE vinyls and a shitload of Richard D James.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-14 08:29 [#00513744]
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*wiats for 135633 to bump in with:*
AUTECHREAUTECHREAUTECHRE!!!!!!
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-01-14 08:29 [#00513745]
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i prefer å...ø is still underrated. æ sucks.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-01-14 08:30 [#00513747]
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hmmm i do like confields but thats all i need from ae
i could only do without classics and expert knobb twiddlers
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2003-01-14 08:32 [#00513749]
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aphex should live then off course hes god
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-01-14 08:33 [#00513752]
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YES!
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-14 08:33 [#00513754]
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Third option: burn Morton.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-14 08:35 [#00513756]
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Eiffel 65 are better then both AE and AFX put together. You all know it, you are just in denial.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-14 08:36 [#00513757]
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word.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-01-14 08:36 [#00513758]
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yeah i fergot bout them musical wonders
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-14 08:55 [#00513773]
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I still prefer Richard. Even though i'm starting to appreciate Autechre more and more...
Their music just doesn't have the personality, and if you will, the insanity of Aphex Twin.
When i listen to Aphex Twin, i do always get the feeling that he could create a truly amazing album (more amazing than the stuff he already released) if he would try just a little bit harder...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 10:43 [#00513872]
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Yes, exactly. He lacks the discipline. He comes up with fantastic ideas, and other artists take the ball and run with it, developing his ideas to their full fruition.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-14 10:47 [#00513879]
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ah fuck it, burn em all and listen to Plaid
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nacmat
on 2003-01-14 10:49 [#00513885]
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I will burn all my afx tomorrow, cos I am tired ot it... see you
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 10:51 [#00513887]
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I downloaded Soup last night and it's better than ae and afx put together in a blender with carrots and whiskey. I'm a go buy all them Bola disks. How many do he have?
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-14 10:59 [#00513896]
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All that's available from skam at the moment on CD is Fyuti and Mauver. Fyuti is essential, Mauver is ok. There's a Jello CD and 12" also on Peacefrog.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 11:03 [#00513902]
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Thank god, finally I get into an artist without an extensive back catalogue I feel obligated to purchase! :-)
Hm, Soup is out of print? Dang. Must be some used copies floating around somewhere...
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-01-14 11:09 [#00513909]
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For the moment, it seems. Looks like Mauver is gone too now.
You can probably get it from some online places - there might be stock left.
I got tired of trying to get Bola from various online places who said they had it and didn't, so I finally ordered from the source.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 11:18 [#00513921]
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Hrm. Gonna put in a request at a local shop that moves a lot of used product. I'm sure they have Fyuti new, too.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-14 11:44 [#00513961]
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-14 12:09 [#00514004]
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"He lacks the discipline. He comes up with fantastic ideas, and other artists take the ball and run with it, developing his ideas to their full fruition."
YES! Exactly!
And i'm starting to think maybe that's exactly what makes listening to an Aphex Twin-album so exciting.
When you listen to an Autechre-cd... you just know those guys did their absolute best to make the most perfect album possible... it is very satisfying.
But with Richard... i don't know... the way his albums are imperfect... he always leaves me wanting more.
Autechre can quench my thirst for good music, Richard just makes me even thirstier! Which in the end, is more exciting...
And by the way, let's NOT burn Morton! I'm sure we'd all miss the little fella :-)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-14 12:33 [#00514043]
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how does that work!?
afx doesn't really do his best, so I like him more..?
strange..
I would say: lets keep ae. exactly for the same reason surrounded gives to dump them - its not about personalities, its just about the music.
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Asche XL
on 2003-01-14 12:38 [#00514052]
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Aphex Twin shall live.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-14 12:46 [#00514060]
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"afx doesn't really do his best, so I like him more..?"
lol, well when you say it like that it sounds crazy!
But i do not know how to explain how exactly this makes me like afx more than æ...
It's like... richard will only give you a little glimpse of the astonishing beauty he is capable of. You can only dream about how it would sound to hear him go all the way. 50% of listening to afx is the actual music, and the other 50% only exists in my mind :-)
I think it really is brilliant... he's probably doing it on purpose. I bet his best tracks will never be heard by anyone, or he only uses a small piece of it in a song.
For instance (random example): Acrid Avid Jam Shred. Towards the end of that song there is suddenly this amazing little melody... you know the one i'm talking about :-) It kinda sounds like it's being whistled (well not really, but it reminds me of whistling). If Autechre would have come up with that melody, they would have probably written an entire 8 minute long track around it.
But not richard... he just plays it for a few seconds, and then it dissapears again. You can never grow tired of it... and in my mind it goes on for much longer, and sounds better than it ever could in reality.
I'm not saying i don't like Autechre... i love autechre! But if i would be forced to choose between them... this'd be my reason for burning the autechre-cd's... but it would be a sad day if they ever were actually burned :-p
" its not about personalities, its just about the music."
Yes, i agree completely on that. But i meant the personality of the songs. I think Autechre makes "tracks", and Aphex Twin makes "songs"... somewhat. The difference is subtle, but i just feels his song have somewhat of a personality that Autechre's don't.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-01-14 12:48 [#00514064]
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7\.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-01-14 12:50 [#00514065]
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Bingo. You appreciate stuff a lot more when it's so limited, especially 8-second long mini-Aphex melodies!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 12:51 [#00514067]
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Well there's something to be said for the haughty natural artiste rather than the craftsman - the guy who effortlessly tosses off unpolished diamonds. It gives some of Richard's best stuff an immediacy and naivete that you don't find in ae.
Having said all that I think I still prefer ae with its hints of posthuman intelligence. They picked up and carried the ball clear out of the stadium and into Dementia V!!!!!!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-14 12:56 [#00514070]
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"the haughty natural artiste rather than the craftsman - the guy who effortlessly tosses off unpolished diamonds. It gives some of Richard's best stuff an immediacy and naivete that you don't find in ae."
That's it. That's exactly what appeals to me in Aphex Twin :-) I like that term "unpolished diamonds", it describes exactly what i feel is so brilliant about his music!
Whether you prefer this, or the posthuman intelligence of Autechre... is probably just a matter of personal taste.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-01-14 12:57 [#00514071]
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which shop in mtl would that be?
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-14 13:03 [#00514077]
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surrounded: name one unpolished diamond. there aren't any mate.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-14 13:04 [#00514080]
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to say that someone would not take the time and effort to do something properly is to say that they probably wouldn't have bothered doing it all. especially in afx's case.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-14 13:10 [#00514084]
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"less is more" :-)
I don't think it's a case of "not bothering" properly finishing his tracks. I'd rather call it self-restraint... if that's an english word at all :-p
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 13:20 [#00514094]
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Pimpy McBiznatch's Ho-Kay Hemporium
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 13:20 [#00514096]
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Naw actually Esoterik. =)
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2003-01-14 13:21 [#00514097]
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yeah exactly, less is sometimes better ;)
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-01-14 13:22 [#00514098]
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on ste-catherine?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 13:25 [#00514102]
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Yeah, you know it? There's a few good soup 'n' noodles places nearby. I like to get some general tao after scoring disks.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-01-14 13:27 [#00514105]
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lol, well you lost me :-p I don't know anymore if you either agree or disagree with me ;-)
But it's all good... afx and ae are both amazing for different reasons :-)
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-01-14 13:30 [#00514110]
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yeah i think i went there once, not sure though. the place i remember is a second-hand shop near the big archambault. they had some nice hard to find lps.
i'll try that soup thing!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 13:38 [#00514115]
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The best one is in the north west corner of st cats and st marc, it's literally called soup and noodles. Try the crispy ginger chicken and the tom yum soup. The big bowl dinner soups are insane - like they throw in ten roast ducks and a noodle factory.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-14 14:12 [#00514127]
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*burns*
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-14 14:17 [#00514133]
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this thread is a bit too filled with the "general AFX myth" - he hasn't released his best stuff yet, he can do much better but decides not to etc.
couldn't it just be that he IS actually doing his best and people SO desperately want him to do something mindblowing as his music in the beginning was..?
or, this is all you're getting..?
this myth just kind of irks me - seems illogical and frankly kind of desperate.. keeping the dream alive etc.
oh well.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 14:21 [#00514137]
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I think the little fellow is frankly intimidated by the many electronic musicians with more technical skills and has lost sight of the from-the-gut grasp of melody and song and primitivism that used to be the bread and butter of his style.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-01-14 14:31 [#00514139]
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now, that sounds a lot more plausible to me..
like how your avatar makes your post SOUND kind of laidback.. :P
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-01-14 14:40 [#00514147]
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*aphex burns* *throws water on to put the fire out* *inspects burnt cd case, opens to find unharmed cd*
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-01-14 15:33 [#00514188]
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i feel more laid back with this avatar
can hardly bother to hit the shift key anymore
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Homestar
on 2003-01-14 15:49 [#00514195]
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wight, wight.
um, that vewsion of way is kind of wiewd. fan awt always makes me angwy
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