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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-22 23:39 [#00710871]
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So besides my Autechre remix, this is the first track I'm putting out to the public, and it's definitly still in the works. It's a very basic framework of the symphonic IDM I want to be doing later, hence a lot of chordal transitions. Plus it's badly mastered right now, working through it again as I write this but wanted some feeback before that was done, especially on the transitions, or any advice.
I'm redoing it as a dance mix to throw on an EP with a couple other tracks I've finished, will have that up in the next week or so.
Hope you guys enjoy it... Kadath.mp3
Sanguine
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-05-22 23:43 [#00710872]
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dance mix sounds suspicious, but I'm d/l now, full report soon
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-05-22 23:49 [#00710873]
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the more I listen, the more I like.
The begining seems confused, but the voices, vox, whatever harmony plays in the background really keeps it all together
by the middle of the song, I am deeply involved in the music.
The flute, i don't know, the harmonies really carry the song.
This is really good music. It is kind of inbetween glitch and ambient with the melodies. Keep at it mate, this is good shit and can only get better.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-22 23:53 [#00710875]
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Thanks for the encouragement... there are only a couple parts I think I really got the vocals to fit, trying to rearrange the beginning subtlely to fit more, I'll put an updated version as soon as I can.
As for dance version... yeah... bad wording, glad you could see past it
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-23 00:21 [#00710888]
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u say its badly mixed but it sounds shit hot on my system, nice track
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zyx
from Beijing (China) on 2003-05-23 00:23 [#00710890]
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This is nice!
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2003-05-23 00:56 [#00710908]
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good god mang
this is an intense journey... i particularly like the lowest end bass drum & the crazy glitchy hihats :0
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-23 01:28 [#00710943]
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I think it's the best I've made so far... I'll post a couple of my older tracks maybe in a few days, or something new if I get some inspiration over the weekend.
I think the mix still has some problems with compression and some other weird sounds I can't quite put my finger on... maybe just overloading my processor from the VSTs or something. Who knows. Anyways, it sounds WAY better in headphones with the more isolated sound scape, on my monitors it's a little dry, but I'm happy with it all the same.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2003-05-23 01:32 [#00710946]
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when mastering, make sure all frequencies do not overlap or get bloody/sloppily mixed... monitor with your speakers (what kind may i ask...) not head-p's... keep it real, you know what to do though! hehhe! hah!
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-23 01:34 [#00710950]
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Using Studiophile SP-5B, the M-Audio speakers... cheap, and WAY better quality than anything else I heard save the Mackies. Good mid/high ranges, although I'm missing a subwoofer for some real bass mixing.
Yeah, I've found the mid-range frequencies tend to melt together a lot and make it sound more muddy, I tried using some sound placement to reduce that effect, happy with the way that came out
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-05-23 10:25 [#00711428]
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hey hey. i meant to comment on this last night, but couldn't find the thread for some reason. *shrugs* anyways...yes. this is incredible. really. good job, guy-o. i'm looking forward to hearing more of your stuff. =]
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-23 14:14 [#00711807]
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If anyone wants to remix it, let me know, I'll zip up some parts and send it off
Thanks for the positive feedback, working on another track, probably up here by the end of the weekend
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uzim
on 2003-05-23 14:44 [#00711831]
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love it! congratulations : )
does "Kadath" mean something?
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Scabs Codeine
from L.A. (United States) on 2003-05-23 15:00 [#00711858]
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Good job man! Reminds me a little of Download in a way.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-23 15:01 [#00711859]
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Kadath is one of the cities H.P. Lovecraft wrote about... it also has personal video game meaning... sort of a double entendre
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uzim
on 2003-05-23 15:04 [#00711864]
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...Lovecraft? ^^
thanks
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-23 16:25 [#00711911]
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pretty good
reminds me of early FSOL
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-23 17:18 [#00711964]
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Is this the Day of the Very Good Tracks or something? I have to do more downloading here on Fridays.
Nice blend of abstract and dance. Kind of like a thicker grottier Posthuman.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-23 21:46 [#00712313]
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Worked at least 10 hours today on a new track, almost done, will post for you guys as soon as it's done... gonna head up to Trouble party on Saturday in SF and drop something off with Tigerbeat6... wish me luck!
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MarXus
from United States on 2003-05-23 21:54 [#00712323]
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I mostly agree with what everybody else said. I'm not that into the 'beepy' type stuff, but I still see how this is good.
And it's mastered fine. But that's coming from me.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-23 21:58 [#00712327]
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nice track
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-05-23 22:20 [#00712346]
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yeh, this is a neat track. like the tones especially.
nice one.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-26 13:14 [#00715455]
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loved it... did you use samples from a track on ICBYD because some of it sounds very familiar.
anyway, i like how densely this is packed and the slick production. and it's not a "polished turd" either, the rhythm and choice of "instruments" (sounds) are really excellent. looking forward to your next track.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-08 10:36 [#00731898]
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Actually this is a really nice track. I'm with blatant echo on this - the more I hear it the more I like.
EVERYONE NEEDS TO DOWNLOAD THIS.
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bjg
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2003-06-08 10:55 [#00731905]
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Nice track man.
How long have you been making music (not just electronic if you've done other stuff aswell), and how old are you? I'm a newb and am going to start soon once i get a dedicated Windows box. What programs have you used/do you use? Any good sites you know of that helped you out in the beginning? Ta.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-08 12:29 [#00731937]
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hey nice track dude (i take it; so flame me)! a tad repetitive, i'd say, though, particularly with the high pitched percussion, but it is a very lovely melody and the structure itself doesn't bore. it reminds me a bit of some of l'usine's tracks (which i love). keep at it!
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-08 16:25 [#00732118]
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Come back from the weekend and see my thread still up... thanks!
I've been doing electronica for just under 12 months
I've been playing classical piano for 14 years, with one year break, so 13 total. I've played in an orchestra and jazz groups during that time as well. I have training, and it helps a lot.
I started with Reason 2.0. I love it for beginning, it allowed me to add modules in as I got better. Check that, I started on a Roland 307, but was too complicated, then moved to computers. Been back on the drum machine a bit lately.
Yes, on the repetitiveness. I think it works because it forces the ear to start listening to the other parts in the song... if it was repetitive in the background too, I wouldn't have liked it if it didn't keep me interested.
I used no sounds from RDJ or any other artist... save mozart for the vocals.
You guys have no idea how motivational all this positive feedback is... I seriously am planning on pushing as hard as possible to do electronic music as my focus for life. I'll have more out soon, after finals are done this week.
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soon
from the moon and 2002-07-30 12:55 on 2003-06-08 20:02 [#00732338]
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I really like the structure of this song. I agree on the repetitiveness working to force "the ear to start listening to the other parts in the song"
When someone (artist) does it correctly it can work. When someone does it based on lack of knowledge of music creation it shows. You clearly have an understanding of what it takes to make music.
Talent, for the most part, is something you are born with. Perfected overtime to achieve the end result or goal. In this case it obviously shows that you both have talent (as shown in this track) and were born with it (as it was part of your life for quite sometime).
Continue to pursue this goal and when you meet a roadblock or obstacle remember that it is only challenging your talent. Prevail!
Great start! I look forward to hearing more from you down the road.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-06-08 20:05 [#00732340]
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yeah.... soon and i were talking about this one. it's real good. I can't really write what he wrote but as we were talking about it we totally agreed.
he said it well.
Good job and keep me posted of future tracks!
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zetre
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-06-09 05:45 [#00732772]
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Nice! Old School to the max!! a bit samey in the long run tho..
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-06-09 21:03 [#00733901]
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bump
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-09 23:41 [#00733965]
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Hehe... thanks... three days until finals are over... *sigh*
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