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wizards teeth from Inside a Kangaroo on 2001-04-11 17:07 [#00003176] | |||||||||
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I think we should all share our musical ideas / tricks. I understand that some may be reluctant if they have a "cheeky" little trick up thier sleeve. If we all share our knowledge then there is a greater chance that newer developments can be generated and quality can be improved. I have started to experiment with panning techniques (thanks to the person who suggested it the other day). I find some nice effects can be obtained by using the same wave file but position the pan and various positions. this coupled with a phasing from left to right or right to left gives a 3D effect. this works well when listening through head phones. try adding an echo and it feels like the music is moving around inside you head. |
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hexane from Melbourne on 2001-04-11 17:36 [#00003178] | |||||||||
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an awesome effect is 'pinging' an echo like left-right-left-right-left etc like on 'On' - there is some plug-in to do it somewhere... |
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Ross from Can. on 2001-04-11 23:57 [#00003220] | |||||||||
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some sounds you can get such a nice echo that it sounds live or really deep in some sort of space/area..i dont do this a lot, but when i have it sounds very neat |
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hedtwin from manchester on 2001-04-12 00:16 [#00003221] | |||||||||
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I don't really have one :-(. I will give it a think and if i come up with anythgin i will leave a message. |
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Human © on 2001-04-12 01:22 [#00003237] | |||||||||
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One trick I thought was nice was taking the cutoff value for say, and organ or a bleep, and having the cutoff lower as the resonance gets higher or vice versa, and running it through the Orange Vocoder. Even without the VST it is kinda cool, if not overused. |
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Human © on 2001-04-12 01:23 [#00003238] | |||||||||
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By the by, this all reminds me. Does anyone know of the "shutter trick"? It is when stuff getts really fast, kinda metally? I have never used plugins to do it, but I the effect can be nice. "Cell" on mp3.com uses it a lot, very nicely I might add. |
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Wizard MaC from Holland on 2001-04-12 08:44 [#00003264] | |||||||||
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Some tricks: -load a wav editor and backward your sample. Then create some silence before the point where the sample starts to play, add some reverb or echo to it and backward the sample again (so it plays in normal direction) ->infading reverbs or echo's! -Use the NorthPole VST filter and try it out with some samples. Most times, I liked the result with my own samples! ->your samples will sound as a big blowing thing! (especially when you use the... I think HP mode... and set the resonance full and turn the cutoff near down.) -I recommend the SupaPhaser VST. ->for xtreme phasing shit. -I also recommend the RoomVerb VST. ->Makes especially leads sound much bigger and more on the foreground. -Use AnalogX SayIt and just record some single characters. (for example the "a") -> Some of these are great to use as bass in a song. ((strange bass sounds)) -Use Coagula to create sounds of drawings. ->and you will get some Windowlicker like effects. This effect also possible with delays or phasers, but I forget how to do that exactly. -Let sine waves go through a flanger with full rate and feedback. ->You will get some blurping sounds. That's it for today. Have a day filled with music! |
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Wizard MaC from Holland on 2001-04-12 08:46 [#00003265] | |||||||||
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BTW the best "trick" is to spend lots of time experimenting with VST's etc.!! |
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Wizard MaC from Holland on 2001-04-12 08:48 [#00003266] | |||||||||
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Oh wait a minute! :-& I made a weird mistake: off course it's not necessairy to create silence before the startingpoint! |
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wizards teeth from Inside a Kangaroo on 2001-04-12 08:59 [#00003267] | |||||||||
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cheers wizards m i shall try those techniques wizard t |
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Rik on 2001-04-12 12:26 [#00003291] | |||||||||
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1) Take a sample or loop and phase it with a 3d sound disperse thingie (UltraFunk Phase, not a wahwah phaser). Crossfade it with the original (or with one with different phase settings). Sounds weird on the brain. :-) (May not mp3 properly unless on 255kbps or whatever the top setting is..) 2) If you ever want to 'blur' sounds, like to remove roughness on time stretches or to make the sample more ambient, do a reverb with minumum possible delay time and mute the dry out. 3) A very neat effect is splitting up a sample into 3 - 8 bands of frequency so you have 3 - 8 diferent samples. Effect them all differently and merge them all back together. You'll need some EQ to split the sample. 4) Lofi effect.. Don't like lofi plugins they're quite boring. The best lofi effect is acheived by recording your sample externaly through a microphone and then sampling it back into your computer. The shittier your mic the more lofi the result. ;-) 5) I dunno how this will work for you, but I like it. If you have an autotune plugin, do each channel seperately (L & R) with different accuracy / slidetime. Will depend on your auto tune plugin on what it sounds like but it's nice on mine. ;-) 6) Sometimes pitchshifting drums a couple of notes makes them sound so much better.. Simple but true. ;-) Most of my other ideas are a bit complicated to write down but if I think of anything interesting that's wordable I'll let you know |
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hexane on 2001-04-12 15:39 [#00003303] | |||||||||
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an extension on the reverse-reverb idea - have the pitch of the echo increase/decrease every time it 'bounces' (some plug-ins do this)- THEN apply the effect |
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velocity_kendall from in here on 2001-04-12 17:04 [#00003313] | |||||||||
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Idea's are not for sharing . So stop it . |
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TekN010G from Australia on 2001-04-12 18:57 [#00003324] | |||||||||
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in frooty loops (there's that contraversial word again, hehe) samples with loop points can be manipulated in volume and pitch even if It's just the echoing "loop" and not just the note itself being played, using this technique you could recreate the vooming mystical effect used in aigeispolis, just a thought |
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reverse a voice, add reverb and reverse it again. |
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What a lovely topic. I'll have to try that one map :) *Post the 800th |
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put sounds through a delay, and se time to 2/100th millisecond or something. This is nice on drums, gives a metallic effect, you can mix it in around 50% for a nice effect. Example: |
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i think chorus is based on the same technic, like a very short millisecond delay .. |
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check Cylob's "Jesse's song" it's similiar to your track, but with changing the millisecond intervall it will sound like a little melodie.. |
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map------what cd is jesse's song on ? doesnt ring a bell :0( |
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it's on "beats & breaks". btw.: i'm listening to Phillip Boa - Love Me Like An Alien - Deep In Velvet (Turnips Mix) right now. does anyone know where i can find that, maybe on vinyl ?? would be very nice. |
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thanks dont have that one :0( |
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Load an aif file into photoshop and use the various filters to fuck with the sound |
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record a vocal phrase, reverse it and play it back... Now, mimic the reversed phrase with your own voice (it will sound swedish!).... record the mimic and reverse this.... You will get a creepy version of the origional phrase... very BoCish..... |
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We (me and some mates) used to do that when we were about 12 using sound recorder for win :) Problem is, we got quite good at mimicing the backwards stuff after a while so the effect was lessened. Still, might be an idea to ask a stranger to say it backwards... |
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- timestretch a sample and timestretch it back(distortion occurs)(cooledit) - use the wrong noiseprints to denoise a sample(DART) - chop a sample(a sentence) into slices(preferably with midi-file so you can recreate the original slice-order in your sequencer)(Recycle), put it into your sequencer and quantitise(so the timing in your sentence is all wrong) |
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ha ha, that sounds great key! I always enjoy the snarkle effect: make a wav of a fairly complex beat (based on 64 rows probably) then play about 3 octaves of it at once. (if it's based on 64, then the higher octaves will divide into it nicely in half 64,32,16,8,4,2,1) play 2 of the same wave files simultaneously, then slightly decrease the pitch of one of them and increase it again. |
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I used noiseprints (in cooledit) to remove the backing music from a track, leaving the vocals. You just have a few bars of music without voice, and then you have music with voice. Just use the voiceless part as noise, and apply it to the part with voice. If you do that 100% is will probably screw things up sounding very weird. Might be cool, but I prefer 50 to 60% levels, using a gate for the rest and some eq. If you mix it in a new part of music, your music will mask the remaining bit of the original track. |
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to create a simple smooth sounding melody, just use black keys. |
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record a synth onto cassette tape and then take the tape and pull all the tape out of the casing and crumple it up a little and then wind it back up and sample your synth from the now battered tape. Gets you a good lofi detuned boards of canada sound. Fact I stole that one from a Boards of canada interview. _john |
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To create a vague atmosphere, smoke pot before, during and after recording a track. (worked for me) |
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This is the only thread worth reading and participating in in ages. In response to the mentioned technique where you reverse a wav, then add reverb, then re-reverse it to result in fading IN reverb, you can do that with the software audacity easier. Just have 2 wavs exactly the same, but one has the reverb effect. then just fade in the volume of one and fade out the volume of the other. I did a similar technique though in my track "smouthing off" at www.mp3.com/snarkle. Somewhere in the middle you hear complexity come TOGETHER to make the original wav (cuz I reversed it, made it fade away into complexity, then re-reversed it) another technique I like is "out of phase volume or panning": play 2 or so of the same wav files at the same time. but have one follow a certain pattern of volume changes (maybe simply fade in/out once per 16 rows) then have the other follow a different pattern (fade in/out per 13 rows or something) The combination makes a weird pattern. |
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* Slightly detuning 2 identical wavs. * distortion on the gentle/tender sounds, like strings * Go down in tempo instead of goin up. |
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more please |
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I thought it was your turn, w M w. ; ) |
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OK, a few old ones: - run your drumloops thought guitaramp plugins such as "Revalver" or "Amplitube" - try making ooo, aaa, and iiii fx by placing a couple of bandpassfilters after eachother - make your own spectral delay using different bandpassfilters with different delaytimes |
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stick the mic up your anus and bang your head on some old iron pans. |
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use and record the click spind from a lighter for the typically hip hop click. |
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This is nice with a slow, subtle oscillator to detune (both + and -)them at the same time. |
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Using some portable device (minidisc recorder) to record sounds everywhere you go. Like factories, in the city, or just your refridgerator. |
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I havn't really tried yet, but I was thinking about just sampling everything you want from the tv. It surely has just about any sound you could possibly want and it's convenient. And nobody will know that you're "stealing it" unless it's super obvious. |
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more please |
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uhhhhhhhh.....? |
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I wanna try phresch's idea. |
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I'm gonna try the scrumpled up tape one :) Other tip: Make 2/3 copies of a loop/bar/whatever, play them in synch with one normal and the other 1 or 2 with FX applied. Sounds quite good with stuttering FX. |
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for bouncingballFX in Reaktor: use 2 LFOs - connect a control for frequency to the frequency input of LFO1 with a range of 0 to 1 - connect a control for Amplitude to the Amplitude input of LFO1 with a range of 0 to 64 - connect the Sine or Triangle output of LFO1 to the frequency input of LFO2 - connect the in- or external MIDI gatesignal to the amplitudeinput of LFO2 - connect the pulseoutput of LFO2 to the gateinput of the (DR)envelope of a drumsound(pitch and amp) (if you want the ensemble email me) |
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Run a sharp knife up and down electric guitar strings for a nice spacey sound. |
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record your stomache sounds. |
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my favourite effect is to change the volume exltremely fast to get some effect like in mt. saint michel. |
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Yes, or clipping- broken speakers a go go :) |
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