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         |  Monoid
             from one source all things depend on 2007-10-03 13:06 [#02127789] Points: 11012 Status: Lurker
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 | It is not the consciousness of men that determines their existence, but, on the contrary, their social existence that
 determines their consciousness
 
 What do you think about this? So according to Karl Marx the
 same people (proletarians) should all share the same
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         |  Raz0rBlade_uk
             on 2007-10-03 13:23 [#02127792] Points: 12540 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | i think we should all strip naked and run around the streets masturbating
 
 
 
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         |  Monoid
             from one source all things depend on 2007-10-03 13:52 [#02127806] Points: 11012 Status: Lurker
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 | And how is Historical materialism, Materialism? 'Social existence' is not something like the objective world or
 nature?
 
 
 
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         |  bingob
             on 2007-10-03 13:54 [#02127808] Points: 675 Status: Lurker | Followup to Monoid: #02127789
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 | Are you a virgin because it makes you a better philosopher? Like those yoga and meditation guys?
 
 
 
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         |  cuntychuck
             from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-10-03 14:07 [#02127817] Points: 8603 Status: Lurker
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 | look monoid, we have bingob now, we dont need you anymore! 
 
 
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         |  rotunda
             on 2007-10-03 14:31 [#02127823] Points: 359 Status: Regular
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 | Interesting Q, I know nothing about K Marx at all, I preferred Groucho. [shite joke]
 
 I'd say its more true than the first statement... but
 obviously its too complex to sum up in one phrase.
 
 
 
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         |  Raz0rBlade_uk
             on 2007-10-03 14:56 [#02127834] Points: 12540 Status: Addict | Show recordbag
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 | i would say that it is the environmental existence that determines the survival based side of consciousness
 
 consciousness without influence however is clear and without
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         |  010101
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-10-03 14:56 [#02127835] Points: 7669 Status: Regular
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 | Marxism = Philosophy for the have nots 
 
 
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         |  Combo
             from Sex on 2007-10-03 15:01 [#02127836] Points: 7546 Status: Lurker
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 | Two virgins in this thread weeeeeeee. 
 
 
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         |  010101
             from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-10-03 15:02 [#02127837] Points: 7669 Status: Regular | Followup to Combo: #02127836
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 | How did it go with that girl? 
 
 
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         |  yoyoyo
             from cornwall on 2007-10-06 10:56 [#02128952] Points: 1543 Status: Lurker | Followup to Raz0rBlade_uk: #02127792
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 | "i think we should all strip naked and run around the streets
 masturbating"
 
 good idea
 
 
 
 
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