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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 07:39 [#02124184]
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I got it this morning, been playing the campaign. It's fun. I'm surprised at how modest the graphics are, no match at all for Gears of War and Bioshock. But the gameplay is still very tight on Heroic/Legendary.
I don't really get the Halo hype at all though. The story and characters are artless and I really can't stand killing the waves of little guys, it makes the game feel so goofy. And for console-FPS reference and system wars' sake, Resistance for PS3 has much more dynamic gameplay and far better level design. Why Halo is so massively huge is beyond me. It's a really enjoyable FPS, but man.
The bread and butter is the multi though, I'll do that later, Forge looks interesting. I mainly play FPS' for the campaigns.
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-09-25 07:44 [#02124187]
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Ophecks - This thread will hit 200+, Ive seen adds left and right and up and down for this game. Playing video games isnt my gig, but I did think that the graphics on this looked very good, Id probably rent is as a movie. The kids dig Halo3, this thread will be around for a while Jay.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-09-25 07:45 [#02124190]
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I don't really get the Halo hype at all though.
They want to sell some more Xbox360's. I was pretty excited to see the Halo3 xbox, but was quickly disappointed when I read that it doesn't come with halo 3. WTF why would I buy it then?
Why can't the 360 be cheaper. All this membership crap and over price shit is no fun.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-09-25 07:50 [#02124195]
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Futureshop is going right to town with this halo 3 jazz.
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staz
on 2007-09-25 07:59 [#02124208]
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halo 2 was better than resistance in some ways singleplayerwise in my opinion. resistance's weapons were dank as shit.
i'm getting halo 3 tomorrow. looks pretty good, i always liked the AI in Halo.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-09-25 08:51 [#02124236]
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20970121/wid/11915829?GT1=104... What a nice guy Bill Gates is.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 09:46 [#02124264]
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i don't get the hype for this game...
*M$ needs money vista isn't doing well --- and i don't get the fans of the game...
Its just another variation of Doom. its 2007...when did the original doom come out? 90s?
and another thing...am i the only one to think that all of these game companies owe a shitload of money to James Cameron? With out the movie Aliens...these games would have shit plots. If you don't understand me watch Aliens, then play the first Halo...or the 300 other shitty FPS games out there...most of the have the marines concept....alien life forms....intergalactic wars etc etc. Fuck in the first Halo the drop ships look soooooooo similar to the marines drop ship in Aliens its ridiculous...
blah, let me know when Resident Evil 5 comes out though :)
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from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-25 09:51 [#02124268]
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since i bought a 360,ive only played on my DS. i hope GTA will get me into the groove.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-25 09:52 [#02124270]
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didnt really cover halo 3 at all then did i
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-09-25 09:58 [#02124272]
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You said plenty, beyond what words can be said -
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 09:59 [#02124274]
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what a lovely shot of Dane Cooks Face...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 10:52 [#02124313]
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Halo isn't anything like Doom, that's a ridiculously oversimplified generalization. The only thing they have in common is shooting things in a first person perspective. The strategies, presentation, art design, level design, battle flow, objectives etc are completely different. Never once in Halo are you running through cramped corridors shooting demons while looking for keys.
Anyway, I'm quite deep into the campaign and it's now perfectly clear that the game really is basically just Halo 2 in HD. It's jarring how little has changed, and the level design is as repetitive as ever. The Halo ''world'' is just so artificial, I never get the sense of being anywhere that could actually exist, interacting in a place of function and being. Big shiny angular buildings that exist only as a place for Master Chief to kill aliens, surrounded by vast expanses that exist only for Master Chief to kill aliens while in a vehicle.
But that's not really the point, so the game pretty much delivers what it advertises, which is badass gunplay. Combat is still great. Half the time it's Sesame Street Space Slaughter as you mow down cute little Grunts, but the larger scale battles with the Brutes can get pretty hardcore.
Don't think I'll put much time into the online, Orange Box is just weeks away.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 10:55 [#02124316]
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its doom, with better graphics...sorry i forgot it has better puzzles to figure out *rolls eyes*
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 10:55 [#02124317]
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I guess the bland Halo universe only bothers me because the game puts so much emphasis on its totally shitty story. As long as I skip the cutescenes and go straight to killing some shit, everything's cool.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 10:56 [#02124319]
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No, it's not anything like Doom. Has nothing to do with the graphics and everything to do with the play mechanics.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 10:58 [#02124321]
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its like Unreal 2004...same concept. to me its just another doom FPS with vehicles...same shit different name.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 10:59 [#02124322]
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different weapons...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 10:59 [#02124323]
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That makes sense, because Unreal isn't anything like Doom either.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-09-25 11:09 [#02124331]
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What are your opinions on the Hanalwall, either thecrimsonguard or Ophecks?
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 11:15 [#02124338]
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we agree to disagree
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 11:22 [#02124346]
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The strategies (game play), presentation (graphics&music), art design (graphics again), level design, battle
flow, objectives etc are completely different.
*i hope the level design would be different or else there would be a lot of legal issues. level design will change since you can have lots more information associated with the game design. its just an over glorified version of doom.
Never once in Halo are you running through cramped corridors shooting demons while looking for keys.
yea instead you run around some alien planet shooting aliens in confined areas to move the next level.
let me clarify, i'm not saying Halo is a carbon copy of doom. its just in the same style of doom. run around shoot things....etc FPS, so they add better graphics and music over time. its still the same concept to me and its old as a dried up piece of dog shit.
*halo and unreal are pretty much the same thing to me as well.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 11:22 [#02124348]
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It's a pretty good XLT meme. I saved it. When I'm 40, maybe hanalwall.jpg will bring back some good memories.
thecrimsonguard- you must think Out of this World is just like Super Mario Bros. All you do is run to the right and jump on platforms, right? What's the difference?
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 11:24 [#02124351]
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I've never played that.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 11:25 [#02124353]
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whats this hanalwall.jpg?
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2007-09-25 11:27 [#02124355]
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They are all really fun games :D Isn't it awesome that we have all of these games at our disposal ?
Yeah they all borrow elements from each other ... but that's no different then the music we listen to.
I'm pissed that I can't play halo3 unless I spend 600+ bucks. Fuck them.
Currently playing UNREAL CHAMPIONSHIP 1 for regular xbox.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-09-25 11:29 [#02124358]
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The "Hanwall", hanal's ass avatar, and wall that is being posted on xlt these days.
Jay Worth did a right click,save-as, and now its saved on his harddrive for eternity, or until his pron crashes his hd.
LAZY_hanalwall
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-09-25 11:31 [#02124360]
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I feel the same way about Halo that i do about Goldeneye 64.
They were both only captivating because it was some of the first time home console gamers got to experience real multiplayer death match. This brought a whole new audience into the deathmatch world because until then most of it was being done only by the ultra geeky computer users.
other than this circumstance both games are quite shitty compared to the overall spectrum of first person shooters. They were released at a key time, and quite frankly i think thats the only reason why they caught on. They are not quality games on their face.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 11:36 [#02124371]
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Oh. OK, then Contra, or... Gunstar Heroes. My point is, you can dumb down ANY game ''you just do this'', leaving out the myriad differences that define the experience. In Gunstar Heroes, you move to the right dispatching enemies trying to reach the end of the level. In Mario Bros., you move to the right dispatching enemies trying to reach the end of the level. Explained so simplistically, they sound like the same shit. But they're not. You're have to be really uninformed to think Out of this World is like Gunstar Heroes, or Gunstar Heroes is like Mario Bros.
It's really no different here. You're completely ignoring the myriad intricacies that differentiate the Halo and Doom experiences. You can do that for any game. Half Life is no different from Serious Sam. Street Fighter is no different from Virtua Fighter. Which is, of course, overly simplistic bullshit.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-09-25 11:40 [#02124376]
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 11:57 [#02124410]
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i'm not trying to dumb down the game. when i played Halo, quake, unreal, medal of honor. counter strike etc etc etc. i just got so disinterested with the game play because it was like playing the same game with different scenarios and weapons...sure different objectives, controller lay outs. its just FPS + x (theme)
i sort of understand your 2D game analogy there. its like comparing metroid to mario. similar concept (side scrolling platform game) but each entirely different and each entirely enjoyable on different levels. i never once felt that after playing of of these FPS games. so...its just me i guess. i've played one, and i've felt like i've played them all after awhile.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2007-09-25 11:59 [#02124413]
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i don't understand the excitement. i will probably cream my pants when RE5 drops though. those games are fucking fun
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 12:05 [#02124421]
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This isn't about whether you like Halo or Quake or any other FPS though. You have to understand that a lot of people do, and they decide which one suits them best because these games really ARE very different from each other, whether or not you enjoy or even understand the subtle differences and dynamics that separate them from each other.
But yeah, RE5 is going to basically be 2nd best game ever. Just behind MGS4.
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on 2007-09-25 12:28 [#02124442]
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misantroll
from Switzerland on 2007-09-25 12:32 [#02124446]
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I am into Bioshock and really don't want to play halo... seems interest less...
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1up
from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-25 12:36 [#02124452]
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i'm looking forward to it!!! :DDD
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-09-25 13:09 [#02124482]
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Just started playing it about an hour ago....
I love it. There are a couple of control changes I have yet to get real used too, but otherwise, completely addicting already. Atleast multiplayer is.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 15:02 [#02124567]
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Sign on, I'll kick your ass, Solchek. No actually I'm ridiculously awful and just got my ass kicked on that Narrows map, the floating sky fortress thing. The maps are well designed. I don't think I'll get much mileage out of the online though, I'm not a big fan. And I'm in a Warhawk phase.
I done gone beat the campaign 45 minutes ago. It is REALLY short and people died and I think I was supposed to care, but I didn't. But all in all, an enjoyable romp, and it will be well worth replaying... 4 player co-op and Legendary sounds too cool to pass up.
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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2007-09-25 15:41 [#02124589]
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The thing that makes Halo really stand out is the multiplayer. My old boss used to have LAN parties at his house and he would have big screen TVs, projectors, and some regular TVs set up in his basement. Those were a lot of fun. A lot of other FPS games' multiplayer modes just never hit the mark the way that one did.
Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory was my personal favortie multiplayer game on original XBOX. The game play was so unique for spys vs mercs. Spys had no lethal weapons, but could crawl around in vents, pull people off ledges, drop on their heads. Mercs had lethal weapons and special tracking gadgets but couldn't go all the places or do all the things a spy could.
I bought the original XBOX version of double agent, and while the campaign seemed pretty good, more or less similar to the gameplay of chaos theory or pandora tomorrow, the spy vs spy multiplayer didn't seem very good at all. It is different from the 360 multiplayer so maybe that version is a lot better.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-25 16:47 [#02124634]
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Indeed. Pandora Tomorrow's online was revelatory for the time, and Chaos Theory built on it. Double Agent was a disappointment, but SC- Conviction looks to have completely changed up the formula to more of a Bourne Identity thing, hopefully they come up with another fresh take on online espionage.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-09-25 16:52 [#02124643]
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seems like the servers have already blown up.....
All the MB's are flaming em....
oh well I got to play a bit online earlier.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-26 01:01 [#02124719]
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halo 3 is on its way to me (according to our lass), can't bloody wait.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2007-09-26 07:44 [#02124857]
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Seems like everyone has already beat the campaign mode..I always thought the future of gaming would yield longer, more in depth single-player modes, yet literally almost everyone on message boards discussing Halo 3 are finished with it already? THE absolute most hyped game for Microsoft can't provide at least a week of single-player entertainment? Ridiculous.. I'd feel ripped off if I were a big Halo fan.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2007-09-26 07:46 [#02124859]
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Seems like everyone has already beat the campaign mode..I always thought the future of gaming would yield longer, more in depth single-player modes, yet literally almost everyone on message boards discussing Halo 3 are finished with it already? THE absolute most hyped game for Microsoft can't provide at least a week of single-player entertainment? Ridiculous.. I'd feel ripped off if I were a big Halo fan.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2007-09-26 07:48 [#02124863]
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well howd that happen, sorry.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-26 08:35 [#02124895]
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The campaign really is a disappointment to me, but not length or gameplay wise. I bought it in the morning and had it beaten before suppertime, but it was on an easier difficulty, and I played it straight through with no breaks. I just wanted to see the environments and follow the story for my first run. Problem is, the environments are mostly quite bland and the story sucks.
Gameplay wise, I don't think it's lacking in substance. I'm going to try to beat it on Legendary. I can barely make it through the first level, so this is going to be MUCH more time consuming. I never did beat Halo 2 on Legendary, and I tried, I pumped lots of hours into it. Plus, after that, there's the 4 player co-op, which should be a blast.
Besides, most people don't buy Halo for the campaign, anyway. It would sell about as well even if it didn't have one. Warhawk doesn't even have a campaign and it's been worth every penny times ten for me.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-26 09:19 [#02124932]
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halo = co-op story mode
Though story should be "story"; there isn't much of it.
It's just fun playing it with mates.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2007-09-26 10:00 [#02124980]
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Ya I will finally have my chance to play on Saturday night with some buddies. I guess the consolation of it being a short game is that I'll get to see the whole thing in one fell swoop.
Off topic: Has anyone checked out Persona 3 on ps2? What a great game with some flashes of brilliance in its music. Plus, it comes packaged with the soundtrack, an art book and the game itself can last well over 80 hours. Now there is $50 going a long way.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-27 09:01 [#02125453]
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I'll be kicking ass at the weekend on halo 3 gamertag: sheffieldbleep
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-09-27 09:29 [#02125465]
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"I don't really get the Halo hype at all though."
Hear, hear. It's a good console FPS, but that's all. There's a good reason Halo has largely been ignored on the PC. It's not like Goldeneye which was markedly better than its contemporary PC FPS games (Quake 2).
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