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offline misantroll from Switzerland on 2007-09-27 10:20 [#02125475]
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fuck you my xbox just got tree red leds :(((
I was going to play bioshock and there it goes
A luck I can get it one new for free !


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-09-27 10:21 [#02125477]
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The Tuss ?


 

offline misantroll from Switzerland on 2007-09-27 10:23 [#02125478]
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no Id rather say RDJ


 

offline misantroll from Switzerland on 2007-09-27 10:23 [#02125479]
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FUCKER



 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-27 10:57 [#02125490]
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The reviews all go something like this.

"It's not brilliant. I am quite disappointed actually. But
of a lazy update. Could be much better. 95%"


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-27 10:58 [#02125491]
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But = Bit
Gew = Few


 

offline staz on 2007-09-27 10:58 [#02125493]
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finished it yesterday, fucking loved it. terrific stuff.


 

offline misantroll from Switzerland on 2007-09-27 10:58 [#02125494]
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Schew = Plewf


 

offline 1up from greater manchester (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-27 11:25 [#02125502]
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i'm digging it. esp. multiplayer.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-27 11:45 [#02125511]
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Halo 3 gets a pass despite glaring flaws that other games
get penalized for, it's weird. But the game really is no
less than 90%, it's rock solid.

Misantroll- that sucks. It's because the X-God saw you
blaspheming Halo 3. You'll know better next time, yes?


 

offline misantroll from Switzerland on 2007-09-27 11:47 [#02125512]
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I DONT GIVE A FUCK (ill get a brand new one tomorrow)


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-09-27 12:01 [#02125520]
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I already got to level 37 and beat Halo 3.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-27 13:27 [#02125549]
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I never really liked 1 or 2 (well 1 wasn't bad). I'll give
this a go but I'm not a massive fps fan anyway.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 10:21 [#02125856]
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Good to see the Bungie and XBox forums are full of people
crying that Halo 3 has broken their XBox.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-28 11:22 [#02125880]
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For real?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 11:29 [#02125884]
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Yep, they are getting disc read errors, artifacts on the
screen and RRoD's :D This is in addition to the LE version
of the game being shipped with dodgy packaging that is
resulting in scratched discs that are taking 3 weeks to
replace and the special edition second disk with remastered
CGI sequences from the first two games that manages to be
poorer quality than the originals. So $120 gets you a small
pastic helmet which you can ram into your rectum to get the
full experience of being fucked over by Microsoft.

And on top of this shit is the announcement that some geek
site thingy have announced that after investigation the game
isn't even HD as it is running at an upscaled 640p which is
a slight improvement on PGR3 which runs at 600p.

Congs Microsoft.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 11:30 [#02125885]
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Please excuse the poor structure of my above post. I am
tired.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-09-28 11:33 [#02125886]
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wow... hahahah... To think that this is basically their
flagship product of 2007... congs microsoft, indeed.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-28 11:36 [#02125890]
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I'm not surprised at it not being HD, this game is at times
shockingly jaggy. There's no AA to speak of.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-28 11:43 [#02125893]
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Hahaha!

It's good to know Microsoft are paying for making artificial
release dates just to get a head start: If they'd taken
their time finishing the product, both the xbox and the ps3
could've been better.

At the same time, I may have to warn a mate about that so he
doesn't buy the game until it works.


 

offline staz on 2007-09-28 11:59 [#02125902]
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uh, the game isn't upscaled natively.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 12:00 [#02125904]
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?

What do you mean?


 

offline staz on 2007-09-28 12:04 [#02125905]
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also, every fucking game breaks the 360. it's not halo 3,
it's just their insanely faulty hardware. and the regular
halo 3s are fine, no scratches. they're replacing every
LE/CE too, so you can return it if you want.


 

offline staz on 2007-09-28 12:05 [#02125906]
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your 640p upscaling bs is a load of balls.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 12:06 [#02125907]
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Please explain why you think this is the case?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-28 12:07 [#02125908]
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What is the xbox' resolution, btw? I thought they weren't
making full hd games..?


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-09-28 12:07 [#02125909]
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But what do you mean by 'natively' upscaled? Upscaling is
not the same thing as increasing a program's native
resolution. I assume you know this, so what am I missing
here?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 12:11 [#02125911]
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The Xbox is capable of both 720p, 1080i and 1080p (1080p to
an extent although the lack of HDMI on older/cheaper
versions means it isn't really an option.).

Some games are produced at a lower resolutions and then
upscaled (hardware based on the 360) to output at an HD
resolution.


 

offline staz on 2007-09-28 12:23 [#02125915]
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i've fucking played it. when you upscale something, you will
always have quite obvious signs of it (like in PGR),
interpolation etc.

halo 3 does not show any signs of being upscaled.

zephyr: i just meant it's not being upscaled from 640p. it's
obviously not natively 640p upscaled to whatever you set it
to.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-09-28 12:26 [#02125916]
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ah I see, thanks. Just needed a bit of clarification.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 13:21 [#02125937]
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I've also played it. It looks as though it could be
upscaled to me.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-28 14:32 [#02126023]
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But are there actually games made in 1080p?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-28 14:34 [#02126025]
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That there is upscaling could explain the argument over
whether or not there is AA in the game: I'd bet the people
complaining about no AA have it in the game's proper
resolution while the people who don't complain are having it
smudged by upscaling it. Either in the 360 or in their tv.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 14:43 [#02126039]
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I don't think there are any native 1080p games for the XBox.
There are a couple of PS3 ones.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-28 14:48 [#02126042]
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1080p as a standard this gen is not realistic. Most of the
legit 1080p games are for PS3, and they're all shit except
Ninja Gaiden and The Darkness. Ninja Gaiden is a prettied up
port and The Darkness is too small scale to be overly
taxing. There's no way complex stuff like Killzone or
Uncharted are going to 1080p.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 14:56 [#02126044]
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Remember the PS3 games are currently first generation and in
many cases ports of later generation 360 titles. 1080p
should be possible down the road.

And Staz: Go home and get your shine box...


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-28 15:01 [#02126047]
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That's true, especially in the PS3's case. Sony don't make
it easy for developers.

That said, 1080p definitely isn't in the cards for the
foreseeable future, at least for the powerhouse games. I'd
be shocked if late-gen games like God of War 4 or whatever
ever got up to 1080p, not with the polygons and effects
they're likely to be pushing by then. Hope I'm wrong!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-09-28 15:11 [#02126052]
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MGS4? SH5? FFXIII?

Anyway, I guess you won't be able to tell the difference
between the consoles, graphics wise, unless you count 4d
graphics, which only ps3 will be able to handle properly.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 15:16 [#02126057]
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I don't think devs will bother too much with 1080p unless it
is relatively easy to implement or there is a massive
explosion in sales of 1080p TV's.

It will be interesting to see what Studio Liverpool manage
to do with Wipeout HD as that is meant to be full 1080p.

I've heard there is a reduction in track side detail however
they are using this engine as a test for the new full game
due out next year.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-09-28 15:24 [#02126061]
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I remember when MGS4 was going to be 1080p, and the direct
feed screenshots were even in 1080p... then the devs went
silent on the subject... and all the screenshots since then
have been 720p. With the game nearing completion, I wouldn't
count on it.

MGS4, despite being the greatest game of all time, really
isn't a technical showpiece anyway. The textures are quite
lo-res and environmental geometry is pretty basic. If they
could get that in 1080p, it would be nice, but they'd be
better served to keep it at 720p and 60fps.

SH5, probably not... especially if the 360 is the primary
platform. FF13, who knows. A game that scale at 1080p would
be amazing, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Killzone 2 in 1080p would be the real test, and they
couldn't deliver. Killzone is head and shoulders above the
other console games because of the lighting, physics and
effects, it's totally not worth it for devs to sacrifice all
that for more resolution.


 

offline staz on 2007-09-28 16:20 [#02126101]
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4D is jesus christ.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 17:58 [#02126114]
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oh well mr "i''ve fucking played it" "your 640p upscaling bs
is a load of balls."

Bungie have confirmed it is 640p.
Don't worry though, no apology necessary.


 

offline staz on 2007-09-28 18:32 [#02126118]
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source?


 

offline staz on 2007-09-28 18:34 [#02126119]
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oh, 640p. jesus christ, i've been thinking of 480p this
whole time (the whole 640x480 convention fucked with my
head).


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 18:46 [#02126120]
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:P

Easy enough done.

Combine this with the DVD and hardware issues and this
launch might not result in the PR Microsoft was expecting.
Good game though.


 

offline staz on 2007-09-28 18:50 [#02126121]
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i'm reading the bungie "clear-up" about it now. i really
can't notice any difference from other games though, doing
some comparisons now. i know the aliasing is a tad more than
what people are used to, but other than that i can't really
see the difference.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-09-28 19:00 [#02126125]
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What I can't understand is, why does it matter so much?
I'm not a massive fan of fps but I can see Halo 3 is one of
the best gameplaying experiences yet. If you have to make
graphical concessions in order to enhance the experience
then do it, rather that than a pretty 1080p visual feast
that plays like a dog.

For me the generational jumps are more about adding depth to
games and not just eye candy. Of course visuals play a part
in it but it isn't the beginning and end.

However consoles breaking is another matter.



 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-09-28 19:05 [#02126127]
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I have a Wii because I hate the visual part of games.


 

offline staz on 2007-09-28 19:34 [#02126133]
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yeah, what i really like about halo 3's graphics is the
lighting/animation, i actually prefer that to polycount
these days because it actually looks more believable when
they emphasize those rather than some wooden, smooth dude.


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-09-29 07:45 [#02126233]
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read this


 


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