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Children of men- 0/5- i *wish* the earth change would only be THIS cool... unbetrived shiite...wankfest... btw...the bit with the afx drukqs track...kinda kewl... but, only *kiiiiiinda* and "kewl" spelt in a manner only a would find amusing: RRRRRAAAAAAWWWWWLF!!!! |
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I ate ALL OF MY POPCORN.... Good FLICK |
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i spent most of the film in a stoned apocalyptic shock, so i feel like i really can't judge it onjectively. but i would be interested to hear someone actually explain what they disliked about it. i've heard a lot of people pan it lately, without explaining why. |
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it wasnt a bad flick, as in "The Number 23"-bad, but it wasnt that great either - i wanted it to be more of a "12 Monkeys" but it was just so so.. |
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explanation....? well...i don't HAVE to explain from the responce i've gotten so far... but look... *if* let's say...the world should have a great change.....just a wild idea here... famine.... do YOU know where your water supply comes from!? f*ck...i mean that'll kill most of us... next...roits...murder...etc... are you willing to actuall KILL someone to protect and feed your fam? probably not. next...starvation.... yes...you die. sounds like jollying hip-hopity bouncing with jurassic park co-stars??? no. sparky...you're not some sorta "lucky duck" who's somehow just trotting along the war-path with your montly crue of an entorage, to run into a "friendly rebel alliance" who's BDSM stly of kidnapping you turns out to be fun and games when all uv a sudden!!! you find out it 's jurrasic park!!!! yay! then they lead you RIGHT to the greatest secret on the face of the planet.... then you somehow just get to waltz right up the the mother of the baby, and after about 5 mins of idle gossip and chit-chat are elected the sole protector of the baby.... did i mention that people are killing each other just to eat their bodyfat? please don't forget the turmoil of the earth change... so...strawberry*cough* goneja...and suicide red-bulls...and kids in dreaddiesss sing along to the beat of your drum and you clumbsly save the mother of the last baby on earth.... yeah...right... it's tooo much fantasy.... this is for people who want to passively take part in what is to come. It's the end of the world...what makes you happy? me? i'm reminded of the bit on titanic where the orchestra keeps playing as the ship sinks... hope to see you there! P.s. yes; i'm still a monk...no it's not a cult....yet! LOL!z0rz! oh yeah...copy/paste that link from the hermaph...i wonder if anyone knows what her bio means...95% woman? 5% male? wtf? |
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okay well, that didn't make a ton of sense. you are saying you didn't find their vision of the apocalypse probable? you're probably right. it probably wouldn't be nearly so exciting. but on the other hand, it's kind of being caught well after the fact, no? anyhow, i see what you are getting at about gaining some sort of pleasure in an end of the world scenario. to speak for myself specifically, when i say that i was in "stoned apocalyptic shock" i mean to say that it was all very disturbing to me. it wasn't the sort of movie where you are cheering at the massive explosions. maybe it's naive of me to think so in this particular (stylistically post-modern) day and age, but i didn't feel that the film was really languishing in this grim spectacle. or at least, not languishing in it is some detached strictly aesthetic fashion (pretty explosions without consequence). is it worth mentioning that if the film were indulging in this ugliness, it would be pretty fucking far from the only film suffering from this malady? that in fact, the vast majority of commercial film is a bunch of pigs wallowing in their own filth? hardly lets it off the hook of course. but then again aristotle talks about all this shit. catharsis, et. al. again, not an apology for it... in fact i think aristotle is problematic. but no one actually cares what i have to say at this point, so i'll just stop here. |
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imagine something making you so sick that you're thrown into convulsions...and body starts to purge itself... this is the model one may find if he/she explores the Buddhist schools...well, the schools that one can earn trust in... I've attended many lectures on lavish fantasies...some lectures...Ian Lungold comes to mind. Lungold's work is well researched, and wrong. The mayan callender presents a vague happening in 2011-2012. The Buddha-minded have proven that for every sentient being that exists, and for each thought that every sentient bieng can come up with; there is a way to enter Nirvana... In this light...many of the masters, Buddhist, Hindu, and so forth, who are worth listening to; all say that the human race can change it's destiny. This works from all sides...in the since that we can play devil's advocate by saying: "can we stop it?" yes. "can we make a blissfull planet? all in harmony in eachother?" absolutely! "can we speed things up?" sadly...we can even speed it up. I challenge the ppl on this MB...Research any prophecy...think for yourself...who's more probable? what you've found out? or the shiit movies out there?! |
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i hate to defend this movie, but i don't see it as necessarily condemning... it is pretty harsh, but in the end it is hopeful. stupid hopeful, but that's beside the point here. anyhow, i don't think you and i look at movies from even remotely the same ballpark. i don't think we are having a conversation either. which is a little bit surprising. so um. yeah. changing the world for the better is good. i agree. |
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Disappointing film. Im too lazy to explain why. It just dragged on and on. The best part for me was at the farm house. It really went shit after. People are always driving away from people running after them in films from the uk. I like it. Its a unique way to create suspense. |
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"Children of men" isn't dark, wrathfull, or witty....so, i don't find it harsh...however...the deportation bits can strike cords...(no-one in my family has been deported...so no cords struck here) "but in the end it is hopeful." very potent, IMO; the scene where even the soilders took a knee to the awesome power of the newborn's existance... "anyhow, i don't think you and i look at movies from even remotely the same ballpark." this is called discerning awareness...like realizing the detail of lotus pedals while still conscience of the whole flower. do subject and object really exist? do we have the means to be unconditionall? to be "one hearted?" Many people think that we can have "one mind, one heart, one consciencsness" but have they attained it? Have *you* met any masters who speak as they have? ??? the changing the world bit... I wouldn't make lite of a serious situation. |
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It was a pretty average movie. Sort of a dissapointing climax. Prolly give it a 3/5. |
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yes! there were points that seemed to drag on...and you're right about the suspence! the scene where they're pulling away was one of my favs...intense! |
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gotcha...the plot was so-so for what the believeability....*rolls eyes* the reactions of the actors during many of the pivitol moments made the movie less believeable...and yes....the climax fits right in...the reactions...weak. If i was saved by a huge boat...i'd be estatic...after going through ALL that they had, wouldn't YOU?! |
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I enjoyed that movie |
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oh no i'm not making light of it at all. i take it very seriously. which is precisely why i reacted the way i said that i did when i saw the film. you could say i looked past the film, which is what you seem to have done too... in a different direction, albeit. the source of my pithiness is probably the gaping discrepancy between your general statements on spirituality and your statements on the film. but then i suppose i'm admitting that i had similar problems, so maybe it's not fair to expect otherwise. |
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I thought it was really cool and the afx track was cool too ! |
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HAR HAR! the aphex bit *was* cool wasn't it? @deadeight; decent post, man! |
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I think that film is BRILLIANT. I think I must have missed the bit with Aphex, where is it? |
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At the time when the main char is first hangin' out with his "nutty professor" protege, and getting stoned...and the proff is all like: "here's some Zen music for ya!" and cranks out Omegiya Switch 7 (i could be wrong on this one) |
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how to look into a movie too much. Sad edition |
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*hahaha! people here are so funny! It's so good to read ppl's responces and take in a breath of fresh air!* The movie's p's and q's are tooo fantasy for the setting...that's the bottom line. the acting/reacting to these life changing events the chars. go through are lame too. |
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this movie doesn't matter to me very much at all... i suppose i am just curious to hear what other people have to say about it because my reaction to it was sort of different from what i'm accustomed to. but no matter what i'll never feel any semblance of guilt for trying to read into something. god only knows why everyone is so convinced that we shouldn't at all care about things that we absolutely gorge our resources (creative and otherwise) to create and receive. in my experience effort in such matters always repays itself. |
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I've noticed most of the detractors in this thread are Americans. I wonder if there's any significance there. |
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pssssssssssh! We can't *ALL* have the vantage point of the antartic!!! except those african penguins...they too digs movies that feature afx... u like dat, Marlowe? you try to hi-jack the thread w/ U.S vs U.K. farce... the chinese would say "Bu Hao!" |
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i enjoyed it a lot... great film! about a man who has to protect a pregnant girl, most precious thing on a chaotic world, life. nothing else... similar to "le temps du loup" by mr. haneke, imo, where they doesnt even want to explain whats happening, just human attitude/ reactions in an extreme situation |
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It could be seen as a satire on contemporary UK society... |
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ive seen it twice now. i just felt the entire film was rendered mute by the end of it. nothing was resolved. it was alright, and good that it was set in england. 3/5 ish. |
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i liked some of the shots, but the plot was retarded. |
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I liked this movie, what is wrong with you people. What do you expect. Remember, not all films will be as good as Ghostbusters 2. |
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hehe well, my irritation with the movie was summed up in that one scene where then entire war stopped just long enough for the dude to leave the building with the baby. cheesy, over exaggerated, heavy handed, and unrealistic in a not good way. almost every aspect of the plot and the characters were developed in this way. the impact could've been much more powerful if it wasn't spoon fed to the audience. |
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I would hate to watch something like James Bond with you!!! |
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:) it's easier to suspend disbelief when the movie is meant to be fantastical. ghostbusters 2 has a much lower threshold for suspension of disbelief than children of men. but like, when your entire movie hinges on human emotional bonds, it becomes easier for me to get irritated by pull-my-finger pre death jokes. |
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p.s. i like james bond flicks! |
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it wasn't anything special. carpenter was doing this sort of films quarter of a century ago. |
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yeah i thought of Temps du Loup too... certainly they differ on the key point that here the characters are somehow involved in what seems like the central problem, whereas there they are just trying to survive. |
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it's a great movie it's not apocalypse because is just about not new people being born not about starvation, and disease. it's also mainly symbolic. |
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its not apocalypse? eh, sorry, what? |
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Best film i've seen, definately in the last year or two. The sequence where the lead character is running through the streets, hiding from the bombs and gunfire, chasing after the woman and her baby who had just been snatched away from him, was a continual shot. Take a close look, the camera didn't stop rolling once, not even when it was splattered with blood. The whole sequence was roughly 15mins of solid shooting and sitting there watching it on the big screen was amazing. It was one of the things i was most looking forward to seeing, and so one of the things that kinda sold the film to me to actually pay to go see it. Plus, i'm really not a fan of Michael Caine at all, i just don't think he's as good an actor as everyone hypes on about.. but i thought he was perfectly cast for this film. Another thing that i really liked also.. remember the part where that woman is explaining to the lead character what the ringing in his ears was? "that frequency is dying, so enjoy it while it lasts because when it's gone you'll never hear that frequency again" ? Throughout the film the ringing kept coming back, during the gunfire/explosions and high adrenaline scenes. Very affective small detail. |
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I dont think it is a single shot I think theres some clever editing there. You mention the blood that gets splattered on the camera. The same blood that somehow magically disappears off of the camera lens during the shot and theres a fair few points where the camera ducks closely behind objects allowing very easily for edits to be done. Also Michael Caine doesn't act. Hes just Michael Caine in different costumes. |
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i have to say...the maturnal instinct between the "father" and his "adopted family"...it's a gripping ideal, i'm in awe,... but the actor...Clive Owen...his performance was that riviting... Flutterby, the chase scene where the actor runs with the bloddy camera chase, it's got flare...it's a decent scene! haha! the bit with the ringing...nuance...it's a clever detail, thanks for bringing it up; i havent noticed a connectin between the "ringing" scene, and the combat bits... -- gotta still reinterate that the movie's subject matter doesn't mesh with the actors...the way it corresponds with how they act...no trauma...no "life and death urgency"...plataeus out...Imgine the circumstances portrayed in the movie...and take our inherantly selfish human natures...this need for selfgrasping is painted very faintly on the film...i guess the "proff's wife (i just dubbed that)" being all tuned out is probably one of the better ways to pour out the emotion... her bleek stare is a little melodramatic, but purifyng in a scence...in the scence that we are al being purified, clensed, or judged on our final hours... will someone make a movie out of *our* lives? |
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'will someone make a movie out of *our* lives?' No. |
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it is actually a continual shot. The first of its kind ever attempted. the director made a point of that being his goal to achieve during the filming. Obviousely when the blood has disappeared and the dude enters the building, the continual shot has ended, but there really is a solid sequence of approx 15mins filming with no cuts i swear to god. As far as i remember it's in the extras if you watch, it had to be choriographed (sp?) |
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nanotech next time you watch the combat bits listen closely in the background, you'll hear the ringing under all of the gunfire and bombs. Its a great added touch! I only noticed it the second or third time of watching the movie |
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However, the commonly reported statement that the action scenes are continuous shots is not entirely true. Visual effects supervisor Frazer Churchill has indicated that the battle sequence was filmed in five separate takes over two locations and then seamlessly stitched together to give the illusion of a single take. Similarly, the car sequence was filmed in six separate takes over three locations and then stitched together, along with various other CG elements including a CG roof. In an interview with Variety, Cuarón acknowledged this nature of the "single-shot" action sequences: "Maybe I'm spilling a big secret, but sometimes it's more than what it looks like. The important thing is how you blend everything and how you keep the perception of a fluid choreography through all of these different pieces." |
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Technically the film is amazing though. |
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har har! okay! i'll watch it again! |
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Where is the Aphex bit just out of interest? |
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the original poster complains that the film doesn't portray apocalypse (his image of apocalypse anyway) with famine and diseas and stuff, im just pointing out that that doesn't happen because there's no reason why it should be an issue.. oh fuck i bet that was impossible to understand.. my english gets worse and worse. |
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