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.I like AFX, Autechre, BoC, Plaid, etc... .I like melodies but I also like the acid sounds of the universal indicator series, I like harsh songs as Isopropanol / Metapharstic / Fantasia / etc... I love Vorshosbn, Arched Maid Via RDJ, etc... I like a difficult and innovative album as Confield... but I'm not able to understand well "drill'n'bass". Honestly I don't like this kind of music (apart few tracks). Now, I'm asking to my self... "why I don't like it?!?"... "Why, a lot of people love it, here?" "What do you feel when you listen a harsh drill'n'bass?" ...I need answers... |
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what exactly do people mean by the term "drill'n'bass"??? |
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give me an example, what is drill'n'bass for you ? []P ? bogdan ? |
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aphex twin is the reason i got into drill&bass. |
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Im the same as you man... All I can say is well, for some reason a harsh beat appeals to me. Something fast and gravelly but the melody's gotta be good too. Somethin like Gyroscope by BoC. Its not too harsh, fair enough but its a small example. |
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I thought pusher was the classic drill'n'bass example, along with most of AFX from RDJ album on. Bogdan Raczynski and Venetian Snares are therefore something you should not tackle, Woofer. For me harsh music (not only drill'n,bass but any harsh music) is like shooting up pure adrenaline. Even when it hurts it hurts so good. |
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yeah. |
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i totally agree with you guys. drill'n'bass os not specific a style like another, um, drum'n'bass, with the generaly u-pf--u-pf-uu-pf |
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on the other hand (can i say that?), it's hard to produce some drillish music.. |
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If I wanna make drill what I do is slllloooow the track down, put in my loops (coz its easier to time them) then speed it up again. It helps ME anyway... |
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For me 90% of Drill N' Bass = boring! |
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drill'n'bass for me is; cut-up, distorted rhythms. i like drill'n'bass and i like cute little melodies. therefore i like Aphex Twin. |
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fernz, your methodology sounds like bogdan or []P, imagine g |
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I dont do drill vry often though so I tend not to make a shitty attempt. :) |
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"aphex twin is the reason i got into drill&bass." yeah, something fast and gravelly but the melody's gotta be good too thats very important. |
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I define drill n bass as: nice melodies with whacky and fast beats... i.e. : 4, a journey to reedham, vordhosbn... |
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Drill n' Bass is less of music and more of art Its the fact that an artist can make these lunatic break beats that were originally derived from Drum and Bass (Squarepusher especially) and yet still put something melodic and meangingful around it. Its the ultimate contrast of music just look at '4' (Like Sine707 said) and Ziggomatic, the last two minutes of that is both mental and beautiful with the carfeully mastered synth riffs |
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The AFX's drill'n'bass in often different from the others. Songs like Arched Maid, Girl Boy Song, Vorshosn, has superlative melodies in the background. i.e. Go Plastic by Squarepusher I love the track "I Wish You Coul Talk" but I don't love for sure "Greenway Trajectory". In the first track I understand the message of Tom Jenkinson, in the last track I hear only fast rumors. Probably, it's genetic but I really don't understand drill'n'bass music. Greenway Trajectroy from Go Plastic. When I listen this song I hear only fast rumours, instead I love the song I Wish you could talk, but it's different from the others drill'n'bass songs. |
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Unforunately, a lot of drill'n'bass tracks hasn't melodies (Apart most of the AFX songs). |
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stop. "come to my selector" has no melody? "Port Rombhus" has no melody? "The body builder" has no melody? Even "chin hippy" has melody, give it a ear and yu'll see. |
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drill n bass sounds silly. |
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I love tracks that have intense breaks and beautiful melodies - dialectics innit. |
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Mad drill and bass beats combined with subtle (and not so subtle) melodies drives me crazy... Vordhosbn and stuff like that. The mad beats could be taken out and there would be some great melodies left over... but the mad beats are so fucking great! Poorly done drill and bass is garbage, of course. Poorly done ANYTHING is garbage, actually... :-/ |
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Melody what ?!? kalaim badkaama, tell me the minute and secon when the melodies starts in the songs "come to my selector" and "body builder". For melody I mean: 1'13" of Vordhosbn (A beautiful sinth melody start there) 3'05" of Girl Boy (an amazing melody light the song) etc... etc... |
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Yeah, Girl Boy has great melodies, too... Aphex is so good at that. Even CockVer10 has some great melodies, behind the percussion madness. Those brittle synths, sound like crying machines or something... I LOVE when the melody starts in that one. And the weird into with the breathy synths... great stuff. And Mt St Michael has some delicious little melodies thrown in there, too. |
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I totally agree with you. |
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man i bought a venetian snares album at lunch-never heard his stuff before-i cant wait to get home!!! |
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Sorry, can someone tell me what ventian snares is again? |
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have you heard the new BOC album yet jonesy? it's terrific!! |
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I like some Drill'n Bass... Aphex Twin's stuff is always good, cause he always has a gorgeous melody underneath... Most of the crazy songs on Drukqs have wicked melodies underneath, and even the ones that have very very subtle, or short melodies (54 Cymru Beats, Taking Control) are very funky, and I like em... I love The RDJ album though... |
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I have to ask... I noticed Murray made a distinction between Drum and Bass, and Drill and bass... what is the difference? All these terms are confusing me!!!! BLAH!!!!! :) |
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Ken: not yet. I'm broke until I get paid on Friday. I've still to get Drukqs as well. FUCK STUDENT DEBTS!!! |
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I agree with you too. |
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Well The_Funkmaster, let me explain Drum and Bass is a simple, straight forward fast breakbeat, that actually has rythm and you can tap ure feet and hum to it Drill and Bass is a mental, crazy, 'lets go and tie sticks to a cats legs and throw it out a window so its legs brake' and un-predictable breakbeat, used alot by Ventian Snares and Squarepusher in songs like 'Greenways tradjectory' Its quite simple, i will give you an example of two songs Drum and Bass: Squarepusher's 'Fat Controller' uses a straight forward drum and bass beat Drill n' Bass: Anything by Ventian Snares or Squarepusher's 'Greenway's tradjectory' Hope this could be of some help |
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So would Drukqs and The RDJ album be Drill and Bass? |
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or Drum and Bass... |
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AFX HAB was the proto drill'n'bass release. Some magazine made up the term to describe that record. Drums that sounds like a drill. Nothing to do with melodies.. |
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I think a lot of aphex stuff (esp. off drukqs) is fast not because it want to be drill and bass, but more because thats how it pours out of RDJ's head. I think his music has always had a certain tempo to it (apart from the ambient pieces) and past the HAB series was him descovering how to do this with help from squarepusher. |
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is my music drill'n'bass or just electronic.. I actually don't know what style it is and some even say drum'n'bass...? please help... |
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which album you got? |
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Venetian Snares |
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i sorta like drill´n´bass when it´s stupid (which it usually is) big loada- stupid stupid music is fun.. my interest in drill´n´bass started fading in about´97 though |
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If []< - Big Loada is drill 'n bass, then that's my genre. |
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There's something fascinating about harsh, extreme music. I like it because it is ridiculous and random. |
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*whoa!* i've been hearing the terms drill n bass being flung around a lot around here, and feel that some ppl don't know what their talking about. I remember reading in some mag that HAB was drill n bass, and i think that's the FIRST time i heard of it. And it was to describe the drilly sounds Also, (being a HUGE power electronics/rythmic noise fan) the only other time i've heard the term was Winterkalte's (ant-zen records [ www.ant-zen.com ]) abulm titled Drill N' Bass, which is nothing but phatty distro noisey Drum and bass beats. What made this significant, was that the Drum n bass style was so shredded, and majorly distored (in the whole power electronics fashion). It wasn't until i started chillin at this board that i started hearing squaerpusher as drill n' bass, and now i'm hearing that some RJD abulm tracks are also?! I mean like track 1? WTF?! anyways......ODD! very odd indeed! |
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