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Anyone here enjoy these? I find them to make me feel sorta jelous for some reason. Dont ask why, it doesnt make sense. I dunno, maybe I was just too drunk this time tonight. But I did have fun, flicked many quaters. Must say, the womenz were pretty hot tonight, but just..... that stripping job seems sorta slutty to me. And im not one to care about stuff like that, but it just seems like... you need to be a slutty person to go up there and almost finger yourself infront of dirty old men, and a FEW young bloods like my friends and I. I mean come on.... but whatever. FUCKEM! |
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I am right there with ya FLEX....I love those strippers and the hard work they do....=) And your right, in the end, FUCKEM, they are probably sluts anyways. =) |
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IronLung::. well I dunno I mean I suppose there are the few that do it for fun???? Maybe? I mean my girlfriend says she would want to do it, but I think its kinda like....sayin' it for fun ya know? I dunno..... the strippers life is a strange one it does seem sorta degrating in the end of it all, getting men to throw dirty money dollars at your pussy for a poster that says I want to fun you on it..... thats kinda dirty. BUT FUCk DEM HOES |
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I don't quite follow this. You seem to despise them for being 'sluts', but you still looove to watch. Are you not as dirty as them? |
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I have to admit.... If I had the body and could dance, hell I WOULD do it...Those girls bring home alot of money...Even the male strippers do too.... Ok, 90% could be sluts...maybe 10 actually ARE doing it to put themselves thru college or something. But in the end, I could care less what a woman decides to do with her body....I say more power to em....:) |
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You're right Iron. I mean, being a slut/ whore/ prostitute is essentially little different from me selling my body/ skills for money. |
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Do you think women enjoy stripping for leches like you? They do it beause the alternative is minimum wage at a restaurant or something else low paid. Misogynists. |
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wow, jonesy, I expected a quicker reaction from you. Well, as I said, prostituting is perhaps a little more degrading that what you or me do for a living but it's essentially the same thing... As for stripping, it's an interesting phenomenon as it reflects how much men are in fact dumbly enslaved by women's femininity. Baudrillard (as if you didn't know I'd bring him up) has a great essay on stripping. |
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STRIPTEASE IS NO GOODY The dancers aren't happy on the inside. I think all strippers go on pills for depression =D It must feel so cheap being one. Really. I would NOT spend money on this sort of entertainment. |
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Enslaved by women's femininity or thinking with their dickz? C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\pic12316.gif |
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Jonsey...They probably dont like it anymore than I enjoy my "real job" where I have assholes yelling at me to fix their email and shit all night. In fact, those girls have money thrown at em at thier job, when was the last time you went to your office and people gave you money all day? And lets not kid ourselves, those girls know EXACTLY what they are doing...They know how to work men into paying more and more....And the girls are always backed by like 6-7 steroid fed bouncers that will break your head if you get outta line.... I mean, I dont think that strippers have it bad at all because of use men...Sure we are pigs, I am the filthiest...lol...but its also supply and demand.... =) |
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Yeah but you don't get ugly men leering at you at work I'm sure. |
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Iron is right. Realistic and shit... It all breaks down to the fucking capitalist society where we all sell our bodies to the system |
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jonesy, you're right too. And what's that URL? |
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Either way...what I am really saying is...NO ONE actually "likes" their job, or "enjoys" working..... Like I said earlier, I would be the first out here to be a male stripper if I had the skills to dance and had a nice body to make the $ If you have ever been to a respectable strip club, than we all know that the girls are friendly for ONE reason and ONE reason only...to empty your wallet. |
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I'm not sure how to get it on the MB. Its a male brain. |
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Why do you hate them so much for "taking your money"? Don't go to them - simple as. |
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oh, yes, try to upload it as your pic. and I agree: they dance, you pay, simple as that, what's all the bad blood about? |
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They hate women. |
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I think there is no way to say something like "Do you think women enjoy stripping for leches like you?"...... Yeah they DO....and if they don't oh well....Get a different job...Or stop complaining cause your getting paid very well. Ok, I am done I think....Either way I dont really care what the girls do... I will still go to the strip clubs...and I am sure there will ALWAYS be some dancers there to work and help me with relaxing at the end of the day....=) (Hope I dont sound like an ass)..... |
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but your day ends in the morning, Iron. |
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its called "Legs n Eggs" my friend..... Breakfast @ 6:30am @ the strip club.... LOL...j/k....I usually only go on Fri. + Sat. nights when the most girls are working. |
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You have to place the job in its context. If you were faced with obstacles to making a career for yourself in more legitimate ways you may take up something like this, however much you hated it. |
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Absolutely...I totally agree with you there... |
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Jonesy, you still think stripping is less 'legitimate' than being a waitress or a fucking clerk like me? That, my friend is a patriarchal, conservative, also marxist opoinion. |
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Owch Meho that hurt! My point is that there is something more degrading about having to strip naked in front of a pack of testosterone-fuelled men that is not experienced by us sitting here in our offices. Legitmiacy was the wrong word. |
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maybe degrading isnt the right word either.... i know what you mean though Jonsey...I really hear ya on that one.... |
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I think it is. They're tunred into a pair of tits and as arse. That's a person you're all leering at, not a piece of meat. |
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I dunno its me being drunk relax. Over all id rather not go to the strippers, I dunno its not very fun overall, I mean you get drunk and waste money on bodies you cant touch anyways. So whatever. And if you have a girlfriend you dont be needin' to see naked stuff on stage. *wink wink* but uh.. really I mean over all Strippers arent really respected by many, and I dunno I dont really care for them all too mcuh. I mean they all get called sluts, bitches or hoes.... how good can that be? |
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me being in this argument is pointless..... I am too tired to know exactly how to word what I am trying to say.... Damn this office and it NO COFFEE anywhere..... I am flipping out here. |
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Sorry boyz and galz im just officially going fuckin crazy. |
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Yeah, jonesy, I know, it just made an easy target for me... But anyway, i see what you mean and agree that there is some formal difference, but with being an object of LUST means also possessing certain kind of POWER. We all know of powerful women that we lust for and fear of (and mask that by calling them bitches, sluts or whatnot), and some of these women even manipulate us because they are aware of their power. It is degrading only if you think there is a proper and moral way for women (and people in general) to act. And being a marxist, it's difficult to imagine you would want to rely on christian moral for that. So the only moral for you would be a matter of agreement ('natural' moral being just a wet dream, right?) and that means that we can agree that being a stripper or a prostitute (of any sex) or any kind of worker where you effectively sell your body/ mind/ skills for money falls pretty much in the same category. |
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Ill probably explode with tension, stress, anger, anxiety, panic, wonder, more tension and stress, a lot more anger, tons more anxiety, disgust, filth.... and some more other stuff. My time has come. BYE |
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I'm not saying there is a proper way for women to live/work. I'm saying most don't choose it because it seems like a great way to provide for yourself/family. Why are the vast majority of strippers women and why are most high income jobs/sectors of industry wholly occupied by men? Is it coincidence? |
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ive just lost all respect for you reflex/ironlung. 'they are probably sluts anyways.' 'BUT FUCk DEM HOES ' sure strippers will do what they do whether they enjoy it/ or not /dont have a choice/have a choice-but those comments are just out of order in my book, and shouldnt have a place on this mb. at the end of the day they should not be referred to as pieces of meat. |
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It's not coincidence, jonesy. It's just a reflection of how it is in a patriarchal culture. But you still support patriarchal views by trying to condemn stripping as essentially more degrading than other jobs. |
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Racism is rightly little tolerated in our society. Why is sexism still acceptable? If I was coming out with racist diatribes on this MB it would rightly be closed. Why not for misogynistic comments as below? Webmasters, I wanna know. |
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I'm not condemning the strippers but the society that leads them into it. How can you say I'm being patriarchal? Surely apologising for the sex industry is patriarchal? |
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me too-those initial comments are out of order and dont belong here. |
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slow down, man. An opinion is just an opinion, racist, sexist or communist If the rest of us don't agree with someone's opinion, we should not post our reply. It's as simple as that. Banning is shit. |
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I don't agree with censorship but neither do I agree with hatred and referring to women as sluts and hoes is hatred of women. If I started referring to black people as ni**ers on here how would people feel? I'm sure they're realise I was using words of racial hatred. |
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not saying the guys should be banned-just topics as above (see comments in first two items). i agree with your comments on banning-and there is a place for shit like that. but in my opinion its not on THIS mb. |
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If inane subjects have been closed, why not these? |
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You're both OK in my book, me too don't like seeing women (or black people, or welsh people, or americans...) being put down but, hey, that's just someone's opinions. We tried to express our views following iron's and reflex's remarks but that's about it. Some weeks ago when everybody was throwing shit on americans, I was the only one to try to express another view. |
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Calling a stripper a slut and calling her a "piece of meat" is not even comparible. Slut is just a derogatory term. As for calling them a piece of meat, that's taking it to a whole different level. I repect women more than you would ever know my friend. your wrong to call me out like that..... |
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see? but anyway, calling someone a slut is a putdown i guess, viewed from a receiving end. |
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I'm with jonsey on this one... "dirty old men, and a FEW young bloods like my friends and I" ... Reflex, a very telling statement from ya..made me laugh a lot.... I know how strip joints work and what sort of people are involved... I know I wouldn't be happy in a place like that.... |
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I was saying that going to watch a strip show is to view women as objects for your sexual gratification. They are not a person to those watching but a body to get hard over. Like it or not that's what it amounts too. |
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meho-dunno mate-cant comment on that because i didnt read it.and with respect to you, you're missing my point-there is a place for comments like that and it isnt here. if i was to express views in support of say, pro paedophillia or gang rape would you want to read those purely because they are my views?? its a nice idea mate, but like everything it comes with responsibility-and ironlung or reflex havn't exercised that.comments such as 'fuck them hoes' should not be on mb. why? because they are derogatory to women. fact. |
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WOW, MY 500th POST!! Anyway, watching a woman as a piece of meat to get hard on is what I do on a daily basis. Everywhere, in the street, on TV, on my computer... But I do not disrespect them or think they are in any way lower than me for this reason. They are objects of my lust in this respect but that doesn't mean that I treat any of them with disrespect for their personality (if we do get in contact for any reason) or that I look down on them. Being an object doesn't necessary imply that you are lower than this subject you are related to. Besides, actors, sports aces and so on are very similarly viewed and noone sees that as kind of disrespect. Disrespect comes when you think that object is somehow lower and less worthy than subject. |
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