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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-20 14:49 [#00132494]
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I don't think you're bad, no. But do you think if the shows closed and these people were offered decent employment that they would be harking back to days of old?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-20 14:49 [#00132495]
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meho i have to say that you spout utter utter shite-have just re read what you sent me and its just dribble-youre putting words in my mouth-i will just have to agree to disagree with you.
"Respecting someone just for being a woman is as ridiculous as putting them down for being a woman. Discrimination anyway. And what's with those caps? Are you mad?"
mmmnnnn-where oh where did i say anything relating to the above quote from you?? i dont respect women just becuase they are women??? what the fuck ARE you on man?
oh well-i cant be arsed with this discussion with you anymore mate-it seems a good case of you putting words in my mouth. cant be doing with it. you've obviously not read a word i have said, or if you have you havnt took it on board. peace.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-20 15:06 [#00132504]
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no they wouldnt you're right... It's funny this politically correctness lark. It aint gonna happen. The shows wont reopen and employers wont take them. shame. I'd definatly rather have employers take them on.
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-20 15:43 [#00132554]
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I know strippers who have had the opportunity to take other jobs but turned them down. They enjoy stripping. I also know ones who don't dance anymore but still reminisse about the good ol' days.
Some people just don't see their body as a holy altar and they have no problems showing it off. Sure they are dancing in front of a lot of scummy types of people, but who's getting paid. Stripping is no different than fashion. It is a shallow profession ruled by power and wealth based solely on beauty.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-20 15:55 [#00132559]
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I'm a bit late here, because I was out of the office for a while, but as I see Ken is still online, just thought to answer his post. Well I thought I was answering following sentence (copied from your post): "SO MEHO, DO YOU NOT THINK THAT RESPECT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO
ANT WOMEN WHO WANDERS INTO THIS DISCUSSION ON THIS MB FOR THE SAKE OF OPINIONS?" I thought i was quite clear but I'm sorry you think I was trying to put my words in your mouth and that you got mad. That was not my intention and I hope this is straightened out as it is clearly a misunderstanding. Peace to u2.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-20 16:03 [#00132573]
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no, see i didnt say that -i said respect should be given to women who stumble across this notice board-not respect should be given to women for being women.
not sure if its a difference of english -what i mean by respect in that sense is courtesy. dunno if that makes sense..
peace to you to mate as well ;>
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-20 16:06 [#00132577]
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Yeah, Ken, but again, I make no differences: a woman, a man, achild, a nazi, a commie, a paedophille, a christian.. See my point?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-20 16:10 [#00132583]
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Nazis are scum. End of story.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-20 16:10 [#00132584]
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you know I have to say KEN, you got me thinkin....I think I know what your trying to say man...I thought about what I posted at the beginning of this topic for a bit...How I threw around the word slut with NO reguard WAS rude of me. In my defense, I do take the mentality of being in a room with a bunch of of my buddies when I am out here, which would lead to me being a little more crude and perhaps offensive. It would look bad to have anyone read that and get the wrong idea.
I know what you you were saying now about what to post ands what to just leave for another time and NOT share....I have realized that perhaps my choice of expression was kinda "wrong place, wrong time".
But I DO stand my ground on one thing... I LOVE the stripclubs and will always be there with a beer in hand watching the beautiful women...
I refuse to apologize for that..=)
Other than that, I think I am done with this topic...too messy and dangerous ground..heh heh.
BoC forever people...even if we are all a little cranky and kinda arguing alot today...We ALWAYS have BoC...LOL
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-20 16:12 [#00132586]
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Well, OK. If you need to set this kind of borders, that's fine with me. It's just not the way I think. I met a lot of nice people who are really into fascism, so I'm unable to generalise that way, but if it works for you...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-20 16:12 [#00132587]
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I've never been around strippers, never want to be... despite the fact I'm a ''sex addict''.
And it sucks, because I'm addicted to sex, and haven't HAD sex since mid October. That's a problem. I'm about to hang myself downtown out of sheer madness. Blarganflargan!!!
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TrevorGod
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-03-20 16:13 [#00132588]
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strippers danceing to BoC... mmmmm
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-20 16:13 [#00132589]
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that was for jonesy.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-20 16:15 [#00132592]
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erm...no. you've totally lost me mate. id say there is an important differance between a woman and a paedophile -one is a cunt who abuses kids, the other is the opposite of a male...??????
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-20 16:16 [#00132598]
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Nice fascists? As I said you baffle me. And I like you. Don't throw me into confusion dude.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-20 16:18 [#00132603]
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Ken: That's in a pragmatic sense. But the moral side of it all is way beyond me. I just don't think of it. If someone's a paedophille, that's what they are. Removing them from a community is a matter of hygiene, not of moral to me. Respecting women means nothing to me. Respecting specific persons does.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-20 16:19 [#00132605]
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jonesy: nice in an everyday sense. our political opinions being just one side to us.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-20 16:20 [#00132606]
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no iron i was offended at how you labeled women back there-not because you frequent stripclybs!! hell man its a free world!! respect and thanks.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-20 16:23 [#00132615]
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You can split people into good and bad parts. A facist is a facist is a threat to freedom.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-20 16:23 [#00132616]
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meho-i cant talk with you on this any more-i dont understand-we could be here all night and i still wouldn't be able to appreciate what youre saying-pragmatically or not a paedophile is diffrent from a women-i can say no more on that...i think its obvious we think on different levels on this-thanks for the chat though ;>
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-20 16:24 [#00132618]
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jonesy: no way. I disagree, you are discriminating people based on ideology, and fascists are supposed to be ones who you condemn for discriminating.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-20 16:25 [#00132622]
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Ken: fair enough, mate. I have to go home, anyway. Thanks for chatting and apologies to everyoune who was bored with all this.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-20 16:27 [#00132624]
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Facists act on discrimination hence the Holocaust. Criticism of someone's ideology, and vice versa, is freedom.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-20 16:28 [#00132628]
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See you later guys.
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Meho Krljic
from Beograd (Yugoslavia) on 2002-03-20 16:29 [#00132631]
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see ya all tomorrow, cheers!!!
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-03-20 16:32 [#00132634]
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adios guys.....=) Until tommorow
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-20 16:33 [#00132636]
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goodnight and thanks-the mb never fails to disappoint-have a good night & peace ;>
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-20 16:34 [#00132637]
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Goodnight John Boy.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-03-20 16:35 [#00132640]
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What a disapointing topic, just a lot of good nights and farewells and butt kissing...
No boobs in sight! What the hell?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-03-20 23:31 [#00133397]
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jonsey: no, its not that I wont understand. now that its the next day, iam sober as all hell and im in the right mind. strippers can do what they want, I have a little respect for them, but thats about it. A LITTLE. And thats my right and god given choice. Its not that I dont understand its that I see it totally different. If my girlfriend were to become a stripper I wouldnt be angry I would just let her know that I didnt really approve of it or something because I find that I myself may not take it to be such a degrating job, 90% of the men that go to stripclubs think of women as hoes, sluts and bitches. Thats all.
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