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It seems to me that old Rich, in his crazy Rich world, doesn't seem bothered in any way whatsoever that he has a large amount of people who are really keen on his music. Yet he claims to have loads of really ahead of its time and wicked music stored on his computer. Isn't it about time he realeased something completely new and completely phat (and I dont use that word often), with a cohevsive 'album feel' to it, some indication that he actually cares- because we do. Whilst drukqs has fantastic songs on it, the fact that he was largely meeting contractual obligations is reflected in its flow. Am I being insolent by saying that his fans deserve a bit more (they bought him a bank, not to mention a bloody tank). Anyway, discuss this if you will- I just had to get that off my chest. Oh, and the moon on a stick would be nice too :) *scuttles off soapbox* Goodnight! |
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i think richard is wise... if i was him i would so the same thing...just to ennoy you people |
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nice icon man!!!! |
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sure, it would be nice if he did, and most artists would do jus that, but I think RDJ has already fairly well established that he doesn't much care about his fans. Still, we can hope... |
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what ever happened to "i care because you do"? clearly, he doesnt! |
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i dunno, one would be a brown-noser by trying to please the crowd. if one cares about how his/her SOUND, then it would reflect in the music. |
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i agree about the flow Drukgs is whatever but shit the guys got all us beefers hounding him for permission to wank him off so he;s prolly all just like 'piss off' or 'this is so shit' at least he;s not going out Cobain style |
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I'd love to hear his unreleased stuff, but it's up to him. Maybe in time he'll put it out there, and I hope he does. Let's hope he doesn't have a hard crash or something on his computer drive... |
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on the other hand, richard is known to be somewhat of a pathological liar. perhaps he doesnt have thousands of unreleased tracks... i think he's playing the game. |
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Richard taking the piss is still better than 99.9999999% of all artists. Maybe Drukqs isn't his best possible effort, but it's still damn good. The guy is just too enigmatic, it's so frustrating!!!! I kind of want another polished, flowing album like I Care Because You Do. |
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Yeah I remeber he was talking about all those songs with him and square pusher, there unreleased tracks on that mp3 player that he lost, and he was like there were hundreds of unreleased tracks, id like to here just one, i wonder what happend to that mp3 player, some teeny prob erased all of it and but nsync or somthin on it, which would make richard happy, |
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Of course we all want him to release stuff like the caustic window album and whatever else he has that we havn't heard, but ultimatly it is all his decision and I respect it either way. It is his work, and it is his place to do whatever he pleases with it, even though I'de love to get my hands on some of it. |
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i'll bet anyone here cash, that that mp3 player did have hundreds of songs on it- songs he already put out under one name or another. it seems like the type of lie, that would slip by, after all i never heard him say in an interview that the mp3 player had NEW material on it, or at least that it was all NEW material... yep |
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Well if those songs are unreleased probably is because they suck, they´re not good enough to his high standarts or maybe his saving the really good ones to release a super triple album. Or he might be suffering an inspiring fase. |
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"Richard taking the piss is still better than 99.9999999% of all artists" yeah thats right! Stop bitching and enjoy Drukqs, make your own flowing track list or whatever, put your fav tracks on one cd the drill stuff and put the piano pieces togheter with some Satie, Cage and Debussy tracks. Hes not taking the piss, how the FUCK can u say that? (maybe I got another Drukqs version with dope tracks). |
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lol Archrival u and i must have different copys then most people, either that or our ears work! |
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no, i´m really into the album aswell. |
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I agree with Arch...there are so many different track listings you can do with Druqks that you can almost weed out the shitty stuff.... and after you have washed off all the grime and dirt, there is a fucking brilliant album of work there. |
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yeah the drukqs compilation is a good idea, i'm going to make a fucking ultra-good 80 min album of it !!! |
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I'm glad everyone is getting the hang of drukqs....there's a million different ways to play it... Rich knows you're gonna MP3 it... (Anyone tried mixing with it yet?...I'm thinking his recent comments about playing Jungle beats under various classical composers gives a lot away; a lot of those pianoy tracks would works really well with loads of different beats...must give this a try soon...) |
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My mind is made up and I have chosen to lock the door behind the next one that goes in !!!!!THE BARON IS BROKEN!!!!!!! |
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Jand: BINGO!! I made tons of remixes of those piano tunes, Avril 14th follows the beat exact, not one tempo change in that track, just add some drums n some base :) JOB: yeah we must have different copys or my ears doesnt work ;) because I LOVE DRUKQS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its the best album of 2001 imo. |
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fuck IT! Its RDJ best release ever. |
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its my personal RDJ fave, lots of great stuff, best album of this century so far |
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Archrival- read my original post again- I can't be bothered to again, but I don't believe you'll find me dissing the individual tracks from drukqs. I have more of a problem with its flow. Example: OK computer by Radiohead. Anyone here that listens to Radiohead will appreciate with I'm saying regarding its progression as an album- starts schizo, becomes very dreary, builds to an exciting climax, explodes (ooer), leaving you with beautiful serenity as the pieces fall back towards earth. As far as I'm concerned, icbyd is the only rdj album to approach this, possibly due to the nature of the music itself, but point in hand, more I think because of rdj's unwillingness to compromise with the public who essentially pay his bills in the first place. As for suggesting different ways of listening to drukqs (like I should have to anyway, for Christs sake), I've done em all with some success. Having a big mp3 collection Is really useful for things that don't quite work as albums. I just don't see why my purchase of Debussy's 'La Mer' should be entirely necessary to enjoy aphex twin. An album is more than the sum of it's parts. Listening to drukqs in entirety detracts from the album experience for me- every now and then I hear a song and think 'Rich, you're so good but your'e SO far up your own arse', and I find it a sour truth. I guess being original is important though, as I'm sure was not being sued for failing to meet contractual agreements :) |
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Yeah, I agree with Cortex and whoever else doubted that RDJ has thousands of brilliant unreleased tracks. There are quite a few of his released tracks which are pretty rubbish (eg, AB4), and I can't see why he'd release them if he had so much brilliant material stashed away. |
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allthatglitters: "Nuh Please" (didnt want to use the word nigger ;) |
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"he was largely meeting contractual obligations is reflected in its flow" Nuh please, flow this and flow that. |
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I dont give a flying fuck about a albums flow if u aint got strong tracks. I can make weak tracks and make it flow, SO!? RDJ made dope tracks, thats what makes sense. |
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I actually don't listen to albums as ''albums'' anyway... I usually only listen to my favorite tracks, and I'm done. Usually. I NEVER listen to Dark Side of the Moon start to finish, and all I hear from people is ''oh, you HAVE to hear it all in one sitting, have to hear it as an ALBUM'', but I don't really give a fuck. I just want to listen to my favorite tracks. Same with the Wall, even. And same with Drukqs! I never listen to it in order. I bounce around the songs, never listening to them in the same way. Just whatever I feel like hearing, and I'll skip to that track. Never cared much for ''concept'' albums, or listening to something all at once, in order. |
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I find the 'flow' of drukqs, as you call it, to be perfect the way that it is presented. I wouldn't rearrange the garden of earthly delights because I like to look at hell first; that would be altering the artisit's statement. |
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I am into albums as a whole as well as the tracks themselves. I think that its interesting to create a relationship among the individual songs, like chapters. I liked what Satriani did with putting his tracks in ascending keys to have an uplifting under-current. |
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Ophecks: Thats my WORD!! Ophecs always on POINT!!! Exactly why waste your ("precious" I hope) time listen to the weak tracks!? Thats right, I dont have to post on this messageboard anymore Ophecs always says the right words ;) ok some tracks can grow on ya (after multiple listens) but I hear when a track can grow on ya. |
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"I think that its interesting to create a relationship among the individual songs, like chapters." Yeah definitly, it has to be good songs tho. |
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Yup, I guess we're musical soulmates. :-) Maybe I have a short attention span... most albums have too many flaws, I can't stand listening to the weak spots when there's so much great music to hear! Too little time to hear anything but the best stuff, methinks. I don't care about the artist's vision, really... they could have arranged their albums in ANY order, it's all the same. Make an album with one track to be SURE they listen to it all at once! Of course, I'd probably just skip over the weak parts. Like I do with Shine on You Crazy Diamond, I'm ashamed to say. :-( That track gets boring. Wankers. |
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2 many trax on Drukqs to skip... |
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Don't you like contrast? Frosting with cake. The only tracks I ever occasionally skip when listening are my favorites, which I don't want to become too acquainted with such that the suprise is ruined. |
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I think that in some cases, the arrangement of tracks can be as significant a statement as the tracks themselves. |
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i find more contrast between the trax on Ae Confield and i can listen to any of em, but it usually depends on the time of the week |
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Make some kind of effort to read my argument properly- I'm not dissing the individual tracks!!! My only major critisism of drukqs is as an album. The order and flow of it seems nonsensicle (sp?) to me, that's what I'm getting at. I guess that to a certain extent, great _albums_ are more difficult to create in Rich's area of music, possibly due in no small part to the prolific nature of the way he works. Sit bands like floyd/radiohead in a studio, with several minds all in the same ballpark and you get a more themed result- floyd being the best example with albums like animals and dark side of the moon having recurring themes. I love the way dark side of the moon goes 'full circle', ending on eclipse to tie the whole thing up as a longer listening experience. I've taken off my headphones at 4am many a time wondering where exactly I've been for the last hour because of that album. I would conceed that expecting rdj to produce this kind of thing would be asking him to change the way he makes his music, pure and simple. Thinking about it, drukqs's failure to comply to any guidlines is part of its austere charm. It's just that imo, one of icbyd's strong points was the way it started pretty chilled, went onto the harsher stuff and let you down on a parachute with the more mellow stuff at the end. Makes me want to add the whole album to the playlist. Drukqs doesn't have that effect on me and as such fell short of the classic status in my head. AS AN ALBUM! |
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ophecks: when you watch a really good film and months later, you watch for a 2nd time, do you skip the parts that didnt grab your attention the 1rst time? to me, listening to an album is an experience comparable to watching a film. ------- the problem with drukqs is, to me, that it feels more like a compilation tthan an actual album (as it's been said by many people on this board). my favorite artists at the moment are autechre. i love basically all of their releases. ive made some compilations of tracks from all their releases, wich, logically, would have to be extremely good. however, i listen to these compilations i make for a brief amount of time and get bored with them. why? probably because they do not sound like an album. that's the problem with drukqs, at least for me. anyone understand what i mean? |
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I seem to be the only one around here who experiences a distinct and logical 'flow' with Drukqs. |
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When I noticed this thread I thought it was going to be a weird story about RDJ pissing on the crowd at a gig or being caught urinating in public...and I find another one of these... |
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His next release is called "Complex Mathematical Equation stuff in your Fucking Face!!!!" |
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I wish it was true!!! |
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if youve got loads of mp3s why bother listening to albums? i prefer a mixture of stuff, ive never listened to drukqs all the way through or geogaddi (maybe once), i enjoy the differences between different artists |
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If u just take like one track from drukqs example Ziggomatic. Just that track is like a whole album from another artist, it changes like "100" times in 8 min. I just love drukqs, im listening to Ziggomatic right now!!! LOVIn every minute of it. |
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ziggomatic is crazy. all the drill 'n bass tracks on drukqs are ace! |
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yeah, i love the song also, particularly the end bit. experiencing computer generated euphoria is a bit disconcerting, mind you. anyway, the thread be dead. and yeah, sorry, this has almost certainly been done a few too many times already. thanks for your attention. bye! |
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look, if RDJ wants to go have a piss, I say let him!!!! ;) |
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