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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-05-11 03:17 [#02081961]
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I think Xltronic is dying guys, like a sick little lamb with an infected leg wound.
There is such a thing as *too many* pointless threads.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 03:22 [#02081964]
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this is such a classic. i really don't think that xlt is dying - i guess phobs taking a break and therefore we have a lot of dupe accounts.
but you are right, the likes of ezkerraldean, valor and the_shark is not exactly a good cocktail at once.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2007-05-11 03:22 [#02081965]
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There have always been too many pointless threads here. The lack of activity is much better an indication.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-05-11 03:24 [#02081967]
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I think... we used to talk about music a little.... it's hard to remember exactly but I think we used to talk about music here
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2007-05-11 03:26 [#02081970]
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nah, I don't think it was here....
this board is about Valor's girlfriend.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-11 03:48 [#02081983]
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The board has evolved beyond the dying IDM music scene: who would want a sterile impersonal board where everyone was polite to one another and there was no friction or creativity. Comes with the territory.
God Bless XLT.
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nesukayh
from Kildare on 2007-05-11 05:30 [#02082022]
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oh yeah isnt it just lovely ?
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2007-05-11 05:31 [#02082023]
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qrter come home!
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big
from lsg on 2007-05-11 05:36 [#02082033]
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i agree without moderation the internet sucks
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 05:37 [#02082035]
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talking about dead idm scene is just nonsense. idm is something special that music becomes - it takes time to be labelled as that. many people get this wrong. there is no idm scene, there is an experimental electronic music scene which is far from dying!
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nesukayh
from Kildare on 2007-05-11 05:49 [#02082041]
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good to see xlt lives again.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 05:50 [#02082042]
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it just needed a restart.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-05-11 06:01 [#02082047]
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I hope Valour is a troll, like monoid. That would be so awesome.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-11 06:05 [#02082051]
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I.D.M...is...not...DYING. (very cross smile)
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-05-11 06:12 [#02082054]
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That's correct. In my "Yo Phobs"-topic I was thinking about posting screens of how XLT was some years ago, concerning music related vs pointless topics. I'm kinda surprised how Phob is just logged on frome time to time, handing out bans, and fiddling on the servers and whatever, making the XLT-mb X% faster, instead of taking care of other things that IMO are more important. And that the mods over the last time have quietly accepted how XLT have changed from a music related messageboard to a hangout for bored people.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2007-05-11 06:25 [#02082055]
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i posted a topic about music the other day - The Chap - and no-one even replied. people would rather talk about shit it seems.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2007-05-11 07:23 [#02082066]
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probably level of new members decreased during last months/years.
webmasters and moderators should have a meeting in the xltronic headquarter talking about future of this board and improvements to do.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 07:55 [#02082076]
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i absolutely agree with you.
but i'd go further than that, saying that some mods are inefficient and are not doing their job at all. we need a new modnazi to clear the board again.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-11 08:00 [#02082077]
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IDM is totally dying.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 08:09 [#02082083]
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look punk, either you listen or you will get your ass beat. easy as that.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2007-05-11 08:16 [#02082086]
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probably has something to do with the fact that I CANT STOP TO LISTEN IT.
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2007-05-11 08:19 [#02082089]
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you can't stop to listen it
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-05-11 08:31 [#02082097]
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the internet is crap, go outside. really.
LAZY_TITLE
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2007-05-11 09:02 [#02082120]
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give me a fucking break. who gives a shit if it's living, dying or dead. if you like it, listen to it, talk about it, seek out varieties older and newer. if anything, the lack of focus here could be attributed to the embarrassment of riches given the ridiculous volumes of music choices (electronic to varying degrees).
aside from the lack of focus,why is xlt such a drag these days? xlt is a conglomeration of people. and the main reason it's gone to shit is there there are precious few people who have anything relevant or interesting to say. many, many people who are genuinely involved in producing and consuming electronic music simply do not come here, or if they come, they don't stay.
there's a pervasive element of adolescent negativity here, and very little reason to come or stay.
i did find out that bochum welt is releasing new music on rephlex, and i found out at xlt in the last month or so. so i'll stop in from time to time and take a look around, and sometimes i'm tempted to add a post.
forgive me for giving in to temptation. i'm even more tempted to just delete this post, but since i've wasted my time on it, here it is.
if you're one of the sweet and lovable few, ignore this post and dig a baby sloth instead.
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cx
from Norway on 2007-05-11 09:10 [#02082125]
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i can say this is definetly the most random board i have ever been on.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-05-11 09:11 [#02082126]
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hold me closer tony danza
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-11 09:17 [#02082130]
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Well, today I started a music related thread, bumped another one with some more info, tried to turn a nonsense thread into something useful and commented in a gear thread. If more people did this we'd have more relevant topics around.
I do agree it's dying on its arse a bit, though.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2007-05-11 09:23 [#02082135]
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that's a good job
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2007-05-11 09:26 [#02082137]
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you english make worse day after day
myabe you meant "i can't stop listen to it"
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 09:28 [#02082139]
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then do something drastic, you have the power to change this. a have a few suggestions to change this ceri, i can email you if you want.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 09:28 [#02082140]
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hahahhahaa
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-11 09:29 [#02082141]
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It's because everybody hates what it was based in; "IDM" (or whatever you want to call it.) Now, we are like lost sheep, heathens, with nothing to call our centre-point.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-11 09:38 [#02082147]
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When it's a few people making nonsense threads and not contributing "properly" to the board, you can ban them and close the threads. When that is not only seen as normal behaviour, but actually what the majority of posters do, what can you do?
Feel free to email me Cuntychuck, I'll read it, but I can't promise anything.
As CS2x says, at least part of the problem is that a lot of people here no longer really seem to like "IDM" (and not much good IDM has come out in absolutely ages and no, The Tuss doesn't make up for the massive dry spell prior to that). I myself don't really like IDM any more. I only come here out of habit and because I can at least discuss minimal techno and dubstep (which I do care about) with some people here who also like those genres. I also quite enjoy some of the off topic (but not pointless- I wish more people could make this distinction) threads about politics, philosophy, videogames, etc. If I cared enough, I'd probably just start posting at dubstepforum and call it quits here.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2007-05-11 09:40 [#02082148]
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"there's a pervasive element of adolescent negativity here, "
I can only fight one battle at a time, friend.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 09:48 [#02082150]
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and that is exactly why we need new moderators. you know there is a flaw and you don't do a thing about it. fresh blood, stop all this idm talk and start focussing on the real deal.. the electronic music. there is so much good stuff being released currently, am i the only one who likes it? i dont think so.
XLTRONIC/WATMM IS THE ONLY FORUMS IN THE WORLD WHERE IDM IS MENTIONED AS A GENRE.
i really cant believe we are discussing the term IDM over the crazy amount of useless topics there is.
you've lost your interest, and thats fair - but that doesnt mean the rest of us have. but i don't know, if phob's not willing to do anything about it - then this mb is going to die eventually.
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The_Shark
on 2007-05-11 09:55 [#02082155]
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Hi, Im The_Shark, also known as XLTs dog_belch. I was once gay_dad, but that was officially pardoned by Phobiazero about ten years ago. I think I had some other names once like
I_cant_log_in and dupe_account
I get bored very easy with my work and I like to write rude things about people because it makes me laugh. But it gets harder to laugh and I seek to be ruder and more destructive to get my kicks. I know it's pointless but sometimes, oftentimes, I can't help it. It's just too easy, I suppose.
Phobiazero, can you do that special thing where you ban an IP range, I'd ban all of Chile just to be safe because I don't think you get many people from this neck of the woods visiting. A simple ban won't do, and as it's getting to be winter here it'll be all the more tempting to stay in and write "cunt" on your board during the long dark evenings.
I don't like the music anymore, anyone I like from here I speak to away from here, there are a couple of nice souls here mind, and I wish them well.
I will now just be increasinly rude to force your hand, unless like wMw says, in a brief moment of clarity, you only let me stay in order to taunt me. Damn you. Of all the people I that annoy me the most, self righteous cuntychuck really gets on my tits.
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The_Shark
on 2007-05-11 09:56 [#02082156]
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But just rememberI invented the term "zilty".
Maybe that's when it all started to go wrong.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-11 09:57 [#02082158]
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Most of the other moderators "of my era" have by and large stopped coming here, mostly for the same reason. I also won't name names, but a lot (not all) of the people who used to post good stuff have either dramatically decreased the frequency with which they come here or stopped coming altogether. Yes, there have been a few newer members who have replaced them, but it is far fewer. Sadly, a lot of the unfunny pseudo-trolls have stuck around for the duration, as well as having had their ranks swelled by new blood.
I honestly don't think new moderators would make much of a difference. It's the attitude of posters and the contents of popular threads here that's the problem. When people make a thread about some electronic music related thing, it usually gets about 10 replies (two thirds of which are unfunny wankers trying to derail it or just saying "it's shit") and then it sinks without a trace. Then someone makes one titled HA HA WANKCHEESE, with I KNOW WHAT A as the only body of text in it and it reaches 50-100 posts, more often than not with about 15 different posters in the thread.
Other than the recent The Tuss thread I can't think of a "proper" thread that has gotten to over 100 posts of late.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 09:59 [#02082159]
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The highlight of my week, thanks.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2007-05-11 10:05 [#02082161]
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fair enough.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2007-05-11 10:27 [#02082168]
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you said the truth :-|
one day bat-phobiazero-man will back and with his strong arms and punches will bring order on this board.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-11 10:41 [#02082173]
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Funny you should mention that, he just emailed me...
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-05-11 10:42 [#02082176]
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VALOR 4 MOD
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-05-11 10:50 [#02082179]
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The main problem as far as I can tell is that there are way too many people here who obviously have anger issues and problems with communicating with people in general. Someone will post a thread about a band or song, and someone will then no doubt post in the thread with some attack at that person because the song is too poppy, or whatever. And then lots of variations on that, which the main theme of some personal attack against the poster remaining the same. I guess those assholes enjoy acting like idiots to people for no reason, but I think lots of people just get tired of that shit and quit posting because of it.
I know lots of people don't like me here, and whatever to that, but that's part of the reason I've stopped posting here as much as I used to. It gets kind of tiring when you post something about a band you like and just get all kinds of shit for it. Not that I really lose much sleep over it, but when it comes down to taking that shit day in and day out or not coming here at all, well the second option is better. I'm sure most people are happy I'm not here, but I bet it's the same for a lot of other posters who were pretty popular.
It's just beyond me I guess. Why someone needs to be called a cunt or attacked for posting about a band, I just don't understand. I wish the mods would ban some of those idiots!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-05-11 10:56 [#02082181]
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Ban Everyone. Problem Solved.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-11 10:59 [#02082183]
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I wonder if there'll be a "Delete Board" button in V2? ;)
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 11:02 [#02082184]
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you see, this is exactly the behaviour that is destroying the board.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-05-11 11:12 [#02082196]
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This is the best the board has ever been.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2007-05-11 11:15 [#02082200]
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meh, phobs once shut down the board for a few days, 4+ years ago
something to the lines of "the board is shut down, calm down kids" at the top when trying to activate the mb
peace.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2007-05-11 11:17 [#02082202]
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what i think, is that most of this is caused by no action whatsoever against pointless threads - this has evolved into this shit. people do exactly what they feel like without any consequences, that can be both positive and negative. i think this board is currently favoring the negative.
i hope to see a change here, a change for the positive and the good vibes.
and dog_belch, i regret if any of my posts have been leading you into suffering, that certainly wasn't my point.
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