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xlt has always been a good laugh and a nice source for info about new releases, i wouldn't know about half the good stuff coming up if it wasn't for this place. i don't think you should take the board so seriously, talking about "the death" of a genre etc., it gets very silly and inane and the debate kind of plays out between huge, awkward posts that none but a few bother to flap through anyway. there's a time and place for those discussions too, i guess, but i don't think you should expect attaining any reasonable outcome that you can hold yourself to. hey, this post turned out pretty long too. arrrgh. anyway, xlt is as it's always been as long as i've been around. lots of waves and fluctuations in topics, richard worship, afew incredibly annoying posters and lots of decent ones. moderating away a few of the most nonsensical threads wouldn't be bad, though. |
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I do agree. I don't blame the mods (and certainly not myself, nossir), because it's way too hard for a group of handsome nerds to suppress the kind of caustic insanity that has come to define XLT. The balance we had between the absurd and the serious is a difficult one to maintain. It depends on many facotrs- current events/release and new arrivals and the position of the planets and... yes, the mods and their actions or lack thereof. I know I'm guilty of cringing at topics and then doing nothing recently, when I really should have. Doesn't help that a lot of the mods, like Ceri said, stay away because they either don't like electronic music anymore (I hardly listen to any of it) or just don't like the vibes here as much (I don't like the vibes here as much). We're not paid a salary to moderate or anything, so why hang around much to help out more if we're not as into it? There's also the passage of time, naturally people aren't always going to be posting 20-30 times a day forever... definitely wouldn't hurt to get new mods. Maybe. I really am a bit out of the loop. Whatever, I'm cool with everything, I really don't think the current state is too bad or anything, we've been having doomsday topics like these since... 2001. At least I added to my though count. Hopefully the ''More Stats'' link will be fixed someday. |
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A simple ban won't do, and as it's getting to be winter here it'll be all the more tempting to stay in and write "cunt" on your board during the long dark evenings. God bless the shark. He's about 70% of whatever's still good about this place. |
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Its not really doomsday talk now is it? we're just discussing the current state of the messageboard and how to improve it. If you don't really like the vibes and don't really do much moderating anymore then i think you should "resign". There should be a new status saying: Honorary for all the dryed out mods and for people who have contributed to the site. And then just get all the inactive out of the way and replace them with new ones - if you dont give a fuck anymore, quit it. |
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Never said I don't ''give a fuck'' anymore, just that I'm not the intimidating, hardass field commander that I used to be when I has here more. Like hell I'm giving up my colored name to be some plebian, yuh huh. I'll try harder, honest. |
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I agree that it's not doomsday talk though, nothing wrong with these topics. That was a poor choice of wordage. |
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the board has been dying for years now. it doesn't help that the webmaster is the bitch of a fucking troll. only on xlt.. |
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hahaha brilliant ! go aengus ! |
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AIN'T DYING SUCKAS BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS KEEPS GETTING OUT OF THE GRAVE SOMEHOW |
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If Phobos just shuts the board he won't have to worry about keep pretending there's a V2 and he can get on with his life. WE COULD BE DOING HIM A FAVOUR. |
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I emailed Phobiazero a month back saying I was ready to be moderator. He has failed to respond to my email. Extremely rude. |
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who is that on that photo I keep seeing around here? |
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the problem with this place is that its shit. someone needs to start a new boar isd whichis xlt with out xlt but then it would be shit. this place is like an STD. |
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people discovered music that isn't electronic..and it's a shame xltronic is so narrow minded music wise. |
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hah I remember being warned and almost banned for making threads about current affairs and politics...look at the place now...hah hah... I am only here to keep up a few of the mates that I made here...I may seem to be spamming a lot but I know that what i make has limited appeal and this is how i try and get feedback from those whose feedback I care about...as far as IDM is concerned...well its gone the way many prior bordeline cutting edge genres (genres that arent so totally obscure and up their own arse that they are unlistenable to practically everyone and neither do they have a mass following falling somewhere in between) like Industrial for one have gone...its been reduced to a stereotype, as in a few signatures that come to define it (in this case the click, the glitch, the drilly break) become absorbed into the whole of the kaliedoscopic technicolour headrush (yeah I am refering to puke) that is music...and then anybody who ever even thought about using one of these signatures, even in a passing dream...label themselves as such with the ever helpful, tags and keywords...personally I think the Analord and that analogue release by Luke Vibert prior to that that I forget the name of as it was so forgetable...was the official deathknell of IDM...well thank god for that |
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who is the webmaster? I remember going to university when the internet just started and all my cool down with the kids friends would use ethernet which connected lots of people to local raves, (hyperreal) and there was also authechre.nu and joyrex.com. One of those became this site right? |
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Analord the end? I have to disagree. I don't really undertand your point? Its all new sounds. We need new sounds and melodies. Music in the top 20 or indoe is so shit. I think IDM is just getting started. There are no limits to music. The less genre building the better. and if you thin kidm is dead thean great. A dead nameplate. Thats good fro creativity.. Of course people dont mind poaching ideas from aphex and his ilk and that won't stop. Top 20 artists stealing from underground artists. |
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pardon the fucking typos. sorry |
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Well i think Analord is the complete loop serpent biting its tail etc it neatly reconnects to SAWI and all the Windows and Bubblebaths...Untitled's etc...so no I dont necessarily see it as genuinelly new sound...but my point is that for an extremely diverse range of sounds the term IDM used to encompass it was becoming hopelessly bottlenecked and typified...people were becoming resistant to infusion of new blood, I remember a time when anything coming from anywhere other than UK was instantly termed as shit...especially American stuff...and other tangential artists, though the artists happily jammed together (okay I am talking about the No Future, Tresor, Milleea Plateaux and other such stuff) were not IDM enough... |
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When I heard the strings in Cilonen I thought it was very new. The very distorted saws. Just different new ways of presenting sounds. Subtle things in analord that were ground breaking. I think its a good thing when a genre looses steam. It means people can be creative without assholes analyzing every move they make. |
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It must be so much easier being a rock musician. You really have to reinvent the wheel in idm to keep peoples interest. |
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could you explain to me what's wrong with richard (or any other 'idm' artist) producing the music he likes to produce (analord) instead of releasing, from your point of view, innovative stuff? is that what idm is about? hell no! 'idm', to me, is about a couple of people putting the middle finger to the music industry and doing stuff they like, whether others like it or not. sometimes the result is innovative, sometimes it isn't. |
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Well, I think Rich probably doesn't care that much, but it does seem that ( 1. you can't please everyone (obvious) and (2. New sounds, shocking sounds are what hold interest.. Not subtle ways of using new sounds in an old style like analord. Or even more important, writing good tunes. Which is what every other genre seems to aim for. |
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tunes meaning melody. Idm is hand in hand with the "process" more so than other forms of music. No that melody isn't important. |
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what i don't understand is that while the production-standards are getting higher and higher and, in that sense, 'idm' is still developing as much as it was 10 years ago, people complain about the lack of innovation. perhaps they're actually referring to creativity, because, well, in that aspect things could be better. but that lack of (apparent) real creativity is not new. there's as much creative stuff being released as there's ever been. there's just a lot more crap that's being released too. imo, people are addicted to that creative stuff and want more and more. but the real creativity remains a rarity (and always will), ans so they're disappointed. that's not the problem of the genre. that's the problem of the fanbase themselves. again, imo. |
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You can't make everyone happy. Everyone is hearin in their mind what they want to hear. Materializing the things you imagine is another issue. Making things physical in this world takes and effort and moeny. The potential of sounds and songs that can be made is limitless really.Thats how I see idm. Music without borders. So it will never die to me. |
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Oh and production-standards. Digtial insturments are like throwing your money away. You can never get better than analogue. Nothing has really advanced in the last 20 years. Better interfaces, but not better sound. |
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Actually, fuck that, the interfaces have gotten worse! |
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Godel, there does seem to be only so many people with creative ideas . Plenty of people with technical know how, but creative ideas are special..I agree with you. No matter how much technology develops. |
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what i meant was that there's more possible nowadays. it's easier to make complex structures. electronic music in that sense is a lot more mature than it used to be. |
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did I say there was anything wrong with it? he could write analogue polka jigs and I would still give it a shot...but you cant deny that from say "I care because you do" to "Drukqs", he kept pushing and surprising and shocking and thrilling in a big big way with evey new release...Analord..subtle changes and all is a retread... but is that a bad thing? No, but it certainly stemmed the flow of the new.... Personally as far as creativity as another way of saying complexity comes...I think Gantz Graf was the pinnacle...where do you go from there? |
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what I am trying to say there is that please if there is something that has surpassed Gantz Graf...let me at it...I would love to hear it.. |
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matter of opinion, right? |
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yeah thank god everyone has one here :) |
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I do see that there are lot less posts a day... or is it a wrong impression? |
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the most efforts seem to go into threads about The Tuss, Monoid's or a shameless bash or a b7 request. No one cares about threads with free passwords to all the pornsites, straight AND gay, on the eternal widewebworld. |
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really, who else, except tridenti would be sad when xlt got closed? maybe redrum. i'm for this. refugess can go to MILF |
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like the shark i'm past my prime. i can't get any cuter |
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i just love those intelectual discussions leading to absolutely stupid conclusions about the tuss, aphex and all other users. why wont all of you simply get a job in life instead of pissing those brainless ramblings about life etc lalala. half of people here dont know what music is about anyway, beeing obsessed only with richard d james, browsing discogs, boomkats and similar shit, denying musical terms and arguing about multiple personalities. the second half stopped posting because instead something really creative there was a sudden flood of lonely turps like tridenti, monoid and similar sad little pricks.after which the board went down like turd in fuckin toilet, leaving sad stinky remarks of what it used to be. theres (maybe) 6 users knowing something about hardware, less than 5 really interested in software and 10 wise enough to listen an album for more than a 45 seconds before switching to another slsk downloaded playlists full of glitches faking draft 7.30. and then you wonder what happened. bottom line:play some fucking music and back off the keyboard for a few hours for fucks sake. |
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i dnot mind the senseless posts. i really dont. what i dont like is like someone previously mentioned 90% of the posts are tuss related. |
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it was allways like that, analord threads, tridenti threads, youve been here before to know that already anyway. |
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I still love IDM, but I have no desire to talk about it anymore |
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:) Mommas boy. |
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I read what the user K300i wrote about me, and this made me set |
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Sad, I mean sad, it made me SAD! |
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your lonely, ill take your pain, for today, im good with it. |
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I view the whole thing as an infernal game of Last Man Standing, it's like an Iain M Banks novel. |
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my premium membership (kindly sponsored by another user :)) runs out next month. why should i renew it? i paid for it 2 years ago, because i had some belief in the fact that this site was going somewhere. not again. phobia is asking for your money, yet nothing is happening. on a personal note i don't listen to much electronic music anymore. i don't even know why i still come here. i have posted an awful lot of tripe i know, but i cant remember the last time there was something worth contributing to on this board. i say close it down. someone like valor is the final straw really. its like a school where all the teachers have jumped ship. everyone is running riot. a few spods are trying and failing to restore order to the chaos. most people are drawing on the walls and pissing in the sinks. none of the mods seem to care, but then, why should they if the person who runs the site doesnt care.... do us all a favour and stop wasting peoples money. |
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