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seeing all these vg topics in the board i was curious to know... i'm just wondering because no one here in the u.s. is crazy about paying $600 for a gaming console. |
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all i know is that i've seen it on sale for 680 euros, which is $909. and i'm sure there are plenty of people in the US crazy enough to pay 600 dollars for a games console. |
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gayly |
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it also makes our faces all wobble wildly. |
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Buying the cheapest notebook here costs you around $650, so I don't think PS3 is really that expensive |
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notebook meaning laptop |
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its a figure of speech. as in, not many people are rushing to the stores to pay for such an expensive piece of equipment. goin back to the subject matter. 909$ is crazy though... |
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sorry, i misread what you typed. i thought you wrote "nobody here is crazy enough to spend ...." instead of "nobody here is crazy about spending ...." grand. |
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but isnt it 300 in america still thats ridiculous fuck a ps3 |
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jesus it is 600 |
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wii and xbox are promoting themselves against ps3. saying you can buy both for the price of 1 ps3. although the price is a little high. i'm eagerly waiting to see how mgs 3 is going to come out. i'm waiting a couple years until the price goes down. |
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opps msg4* |
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mgs 4 *sorry hehe |
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I bought an xbox 360 and saw how incredibly shit current generation games and systems are; I don't think I'd be interested in a ps3 if it was 100$. a big bloated time wasting bunch of linear, internet fused, gameplayless, forced cutscene watching, loading time waiting, terrible controller having, soulless business team made cookie cutter funless travesties. It's like all the ones and zeros in the loud overly complex (in the wrong way) system are organized in an embarassingly idiotic way and hearing that sytem hum makes me want to throw it through a window. Pay 600$ to be annoyed. |
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Well everywhere has stock available and the discounting has already started so my guess is not very well. |
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Videogames are pretty unsatisfactory, I don't know, I'd rather look at the wall. Spend what you like on whatever helps you to forget what a turd you are. |
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I don't play games myself. I just come away every time feeling totally unproductive. I am much happier using cracked music software and buying alcohol to enhance the experience. |
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I'm feeling it too. I do play games now and again, and I used to before quite a lot more, but as you say, I'd come away feeling like a cunt. Even more of a cunt, then. |
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it already caught up to the wii's head start here in norway. |
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usually, if i want to feel productive i do something productive ie read a book or ride a bike, and likewise, if i want to relax and be lazy i end up here. video games are too involving nowadays, to the point where, like yourselves, i can't justify spending that much time getting into a game, or even be able to relax and simply have fun w/o any extra effort, especially when there are so many things that i could be investing my energy doing which are more important to fulfilling and enriching my life and the future thereof. |
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but all that's not to say i don't enjoy old school nintendo or even *gasp* old school ps2! hahaha! cuz i do, but for purely nostalgic value only, i assure you. |
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norway is probably the most sony offjerking country in the fucking world. |
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I think we jsuappreciate good amges. mgs4 ison its own, enoigh to make me buy this thing. |
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well, it's probably better than the fucking wii |
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yeah, the wii is basically crap. where are the revolutionary games we were promised? The ps2/3 has them. Being innovative doesn't mean using the control of your console, it means doing soething new. |
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I hope the PS3 rebounds like the PS2 did from its slow start, but it's not likely. The PS2 only had the gimped Dreamcast to compete with. Very few must-have exclusives for the PS3, it's depressing for me as a Sony fanboy. Ubisofts recent awful ports for the PS3 are yet another ominous sign for Sony... the 360 is getting superior versions of multiplatform games, and more exclusives. I think the PS3 can catch up to and beat out the Wii though, once the novelty wears off. |
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mgs, silent hill, final fantasy, do you even realise the market those three games alone have? Plus, the truly revolutionary games are indeed ps3 games |
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Xbox will get Silent Hill, and it's getting Bioshock, Alan Wake, Mass Effect, a better version of Assasin's Creed, etc. All of those games have the potential to be as seminal as any PS3 release. Especially Bioshock, just look at its pedigree. I was so disappointed when the PS3 version was cancelled. MGS is the best series around but it really isn't a system seller. It's depressing but true. It won't be able to turn the tide. Final Fantasy... maybe. That's a wild card. Devil May Cry also recently jumped ship to Xbox. DMC was one of the PS3's meal tickets, to see that go... that sucks. |
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I'm with dan & lee on this one: I rarely play games, even though I have a SNES, N64, PS1, PS2, and GameCube. I have about 3 games per console I really love, and the rest just feel like a waste of my time; they make me feel guilty and I usually end up playing the piano and fiddling about on FruityLoops to assuage my creativity. |
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I played Menu Navigigator 4 for the 360. It was all right but I don't understand why such a game would need modern hardware. Or maybe the rumors true and there is a secret hidden 'game' at the end of the maze. Here is my summary of modern analoge stick gameplay. *press 'A' (maybe it bypasses a menu, maybe it effortlessy vanquishes an enemy (which is basically a visual menu given they offer no challenge) *Tilt analogue stick until character is in the next event triggering region. This region is VERY often hidden, but in a way where you have to hack the game itself to find it. (For example, remember that forgotten feature of that forgotten weapon where you have to use a cryptic controller command you never normally think of (like pushing the analoge stick IN) to do a spin grab jump?) *repeat Essentially I can replicate the gameplay with things I have on this table, without the visuals. I can move a pen around to simulate the analogue stick then tap on an eraser occasionally while staring at a wall. Hell if I want, I can imagine a better game while I do it. I ought to sell this system. 'super imaginator 3000' |
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I doubt the 360 can get a better version of assassins creed.. the ps3s processing power is awesome. One of the awesomest features of it (to me) is the folding@home thing where you lend processing power to cancer research. Bioshock.. well, that just seems like a run-of-the-mill shooter.When wlil people realise that innovation isn't just new AI? MGS has a cult following. The PS in itself has a cult following.. I don't think Sony will do too bad. I won't be able to afford a ps3 for quite some time, but I didn't get a ps2 before far into its existence, and I think sony is stable enough to keep it going and do what the ps2 did; they'll keep selling stably enough to keep it going; the ps2 is still selling!!! I played devil may cry, and I didn't get the hype. Then again, I'm particularly picky, and the only game I've played properly since final fantasy X (-2) is STALKER. Stalker has the freedom I want. I also played Oblivion, but I can't remember how that related to Final Fantasy. All other games were just.. crap. MGS is.. it's just the holy grail of gaming. If those guys haven't put it in, it isn't worth having it; they know everything, they give everything; MGS is the perfect game, and every incarnation of it (yes, even mgs2) shows that. |
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The problem is, Ubisoft are treating the Xbox as the main platform. Just look at the recent Splinter Cell games... the 360 version has a stable framerate and many more details, the PS3 version is awful. Of course the PS3 DOES have more processing muscle, but that doesn't matter if the developers are more interested in putting their resources towards the 360. I'm be shocked if Assassin's Creed for PS3 was as good as the 360. Some people are even theorizing that the 360 will be the home platform for Grand Theft Auto... don't be surprised if the PS3 version is inferior. It's not Sony's fault, or the hardware's, but if Rockstar feels the 360 is the safer bet from a business standpoint, it will get the better version. And I think you're off-base about Bioshock. Have you ever played System Shock? That's what this game is based on, one of the most intelligently designed adventure games ever, it's the same people. Bioshock will be no run-of-the-mill FPS. It will be more like Deus Ex than Doom. But I agree about MGS, it's the finest series around. I'd buy a PS3 for 1000 dollars just to play that. |
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who careas is shit |
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PS3 isn't heading any innovation superior to what the 360 is offering. Also, while MGS has a cult following, most of the games are a load of fucking shite (except from MG2 on the NES, and I haven't tried anything MGS3, although I've played the PSP games and they are fucking travesties), and the stories are totally incoherent and sewn together quilt blankets of crap. I think both consoles are offering just about the same stuff, but the 360 has Halo 3 so I like that the most at the present. If Square ponies up a realtime FF game or a tactical FF game for the PS3 exclusively, I will be a bit more inclined to buy it. Or if there's more stuff from the ICO studio. Or if the new R&C plays as good as it looks. Or if it drops a few hundred bucks. |
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Oh and MGS4 will most likely come to the 360 and look just as good. |
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I've read somewhere, I belive it was an interview with Carmack, that PS3 is a chore to code for and it will be ages till somebody manages to use its processing power. Actually he didn't put it this way, he said that PS3 is a piece of crap. |
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You're... you're not talking about Snake's Revenge, are you? Metal Gear 2 was ahead of its time but it was not for the NES. Snake's Revenge (the second NES game) was to Metal Gear what... I dunno, Staying Alive was to Saturday Night Fever, or something. |
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When I poop I like to do it reaaal slow usually making moaning sounds and sucking my finger. I think about all the beefarino and mcdonalds hamburgers I ate, knowing I am pooping out the souls of REAL beings. Then i look in the toilet and am just entirely proud of myself. I think of nature's hideous designs of cow's and pigs and beefarino trees, and know that *I* was the one who converted these beings into the BEAUTIFUL form I see in the toilet. And I smile and take a big healthy lungfull through my nose of these fragrant newly reincarnated beings knowing that *I* had made a difference. |
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yes i find these things very nonsense nowadays |
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well, I think sony has the most innovative games these days.. it looks crap boring, but that game with the drawing fox thing for the ps2 is quite innovative imo. And then they have that littlebigworld thing coming up for the ps3... |
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fucking hell, have you seen the new ratchet & clank trailers on gametrailers.com for the ps3? I loved that game on my ps2 (except for the last shooter one)...and the new one looks very very good. Low res trailer here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybZjG0TdNtQ |
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Modern consoles need some decent games! I played on my mates 360 the other day, and the only decent game was lego starwars, a kids game. The graphics on some of the other games was very very good. We played call of duty 4way multiplayer and this was great fun, BUT only because you get to sit around, drink beer and shoot your friends in the back when they least expect it. I could do this on goldeneye on the N64 anyway! The biggest problem is that to encourage you to buy this expensive hardware, they have to make everything 3D, so you can see how much better the graphics and processing is. The problem is the best games I've ever played are allmost all 2D. If I were Sony, I'd bundle a disk with a load of revamped 2D games. You could have things like pacman, tempest, head over heels, gta 1, sonic3+knuckles, worms 1, Z, lemmings, tyrain, etc etc. This would sell the ps3 like the hottest cakes imaginable. |
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I agree, but not necessarily on the graphics thing as such. I think the reason why older games with poorer graphics were better than the new games is that when the graphics weren't as good, and didn't need to be all that good, they didn't have to spend lots of time developing the graphics, the graphics engine and whatever. They could spend their time developing the game concept, the story, etc, and you see that the games that really stand out as good games today are games where these things have been properly developed. A good story mostly outweighs all other things, but the problem is that even though I think so, it can indeed put me off a bit if the graphics aren't developed well enough (I can't stand cel shading, for instance). |
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I also think HDR lighting is one of the biggest mistakes in graphics development. It makes everything look like the gilmore girls. |
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If I were Sony, I'd bundle a disk with a load of revamped 2D games. You could have things like pacman, tempest, head over heels, gta 1, sonic3+knuckles, worms 1, Z, lemmings, tyrain, etc etc. This would sell the ps3 like the hottest cakes imaginable. That wouldn't sell any systems. There's lots of cheap retro compilations for the Xbox/GC/PS2, none of which made any sort of signifigant splash. And those games are still being distributed and sold, but they're relegated to Xbox Live Arcade, the PS Online, and the Virtual Console, and even then, most people feel they're being overpriced for archaic, comparitively shallow gameplay experiences. Nostalgia is nice, and it's fun to drop 5 bucks here and there and replay a classic, but it's a niche thing and most of these games really don't hold up from a gameplay or design perspective. |
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The porn industry is going with HD-DVD, so I'm kinda worried about this competing disc system in the PS3. The fact that the name starts with a B is no good sign either, looking back at earlier format wars. |
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Not that 2D is irrelevant, it's just incredibly limiting. Little Big Planet for PS3 looks awesome though, harkens back to The Lost Vikings and has great visual style. |
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The only thing about little big planet is that it could be one of those games you buy and then play only a few hours before it gets boring. We'll just have to wait and see. |
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Like most 2D games, but I think that's OK, it's nice to have a pick-up-and-play game once in a while, something you don't have to invest too much time into. The game won't be more than a few hours long anyway. Also, apparently it has user-created content, people design their own levels and put them up on PS Online. Neat idea if done right. |
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Yeah, if done right, but you'll inevitably have a large mass of morons playing the game making useless levels so that the only actually satisfying alternative is making your own levels anyway. I actually don't have any pick-up-and-play games.. they just aren't satisfying. |
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