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Are they really? If they really went with HD, then HD has already won. Same as VHS. OR IS IT? Now there's the Internet and all, will it make a difference? I don't know and probably not but I don't know. |
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Blue ray is too complicated and expensive apparently, for quick "home" authoring. That's what some of the leading porn industry buffs were saying in an interview I saw. The fact that they are already working with HD and getting familiar with the format could be bad for blue ray. As you said though, maybe it doesn't matter anymore. Maybe it was just back then when VHS and betamax fought it out. |
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That wasn't the problem.. a porn company wouldn't do "home" authoring anyway; they have to have a producer that can turn out discs at a higher rate. The problem was that for some reason, supposedly by sony order, the people with blu-ray technology for large-scale production (in the usa) refused to do the porn discs. Sony denied that they had anything to do with it, but the people with the machines still refused to do porn. |
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i work at a game store, and i can say i'm lucky if i sell one ps3 in a month, everyone wants the Wii and the DS though - too bad Nintendo can't keep up with demand. |
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i can see where you're coming from. the problem is a lot of developers are looking at what is selling, imitating it with some carbon-copy storyline, and not giving people a reason to come back. Licensed games have also reached plague-like status, as it seems that every movie, cartoon or TV show has some shit game for 50 bucks released with it, that people will buy regardless of the developer's track record, criticism or how well it is made. as long as you can kill something, people buy it. Personally, Final Fantasy VI is still one of my all time favorites, and it's on Super Nintendo, and it still challenges me. the problem is that games are too easy and that's it such a big industry that more developers want money than they do a quality title - because people buy shit, and as long as people buy shit, shit will still be made. trust me, i know this. then again, it's like this with all media, film, books, music, what have you. |
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The PS3 is a piece of junk. Original games? Don't make me laugh. That launch line up consisted of games that had been available on the 360 for about a year. Motorstorm was about the only original game there and it was a fucking tech demo at most. Nothing amazing. Show me something groundbreaking on the PS3 to justify the price tag. The Wii however, at a party this weekend the Wii was a smash hit. Everybody enjoyed playing on it and nobody was bored even when just watching. It's a superb console. I'm looking forward to the next generation of releases for the machine. The current ones are good but I do have reservations about their longevity. I'm hoping for a proper Star Wars tie in. Red Steel didn't float my boat but there's still hope for Star Wars fun using the force and fighting with a lightsaber. The 360. Good machine. Crackdown is an awesome game. Loving that. Properly open ended too. So far I've just leapt about the city collecting orbs so I can upgrade my abilities. |
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Did anyone say original? I said innovative. Motorstorm isn't innovative; it's a racing game. Neither are any of the games I've seen for the other consoles.. What I've seen that seems remotely innovative is that one with the fox and some painting for the ps2 and little big planet for ps3. I don't know of any other actually innovative games. Thing is, though, all the Wii games brag about being innovative, but then they're just normal games where you have to use the Wii controller.. where's the innovation in that? And the controllers themselves are hardly as revolutionary as people make them out to be. And the launch lineup for the ps3 won't be the reason why I'm buying it. The reason will be the quality games that come later on like MGS4, Silent Hill, Final Fantasy, etc. These aren't really too innovative in themselves, but they are really really quality productions where the producers didn't spend all their money on one single feature (they're more unusual than innovative), but rather are trying to produce something that is good as a whole. Sure, there's one game that has better graphics than the other, and there's one with a better gameplay, but for these games, it's just all, as a whole, perfect; You need a story to keep it together, you need gameplay and a gameworld that is immersive, you need graphics to support this. It won't do you any good to just develop some run-of-the-mill shooter with better graphics. That's not a game, that's a tech demo. |
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Crackdown looks really really really boring.. what's it about? From the preview and review, it looks like it's just a mod for quake2. |
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ridiculous price |
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Innovative and Original go hand in hand. |
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Much like faggots. |
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and straight people. |
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Not Muslims though. They go Hook in Hook. |
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Not necessarily. Original can be the first instance of something, but that something doesn't need to be innovative. Like you said "Original games? Don't make me laugh. That launch line up consisted of games that had been available on the 360 for about a year." Being original doesn't make it innovative, and if the game was truly innovative, it wouldn't make it less innovative if it was released for one console first and then released for another later. |
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I'm not really not understanding what you're going on about. You're just shoving definitions and quotes at me without really stating anything of use. All I wanted to say was that the PS3 currently has no original properties and fuck all innovation. I'll try again. When they were released on the 360 they were "new and fresh" which is, I think, a definition of original. When they were released on the PS3 they weren't new or fresh. We could push the analogy further as an original is the first edition. Any subsequent versions are copies. Fight Night Round 3 on 360 = Original Fight Night Round 3 on PS3 = Copy (Port) I can't be bothered to type about this any more. The PS3 is a failure because Sony fucked up. The PS1 and 2 were great machines with some awesome games. Shadow of Colossus anyone? Amazing game, that was original and, in my mind, quite innovative. The PS3 console itself is nothing amazing. The Cell processor? Technically sound and a great piece of technology but for gaming? Waste of time. No developer is going to have the resources to properly code for it. It's far too complex for that. The developer kits Sony sent out are incomplete and pretty shite by all accounts. They couldn't even be bothered to do a new controller. The Dual-Shock is old and tired. They shoe-horned in some remote control feature and removed rumble. Rumble is the best fucking feature of a console controller. Tactile feedback is where it's at. So they bundled Blu-Ray? Great! Very few games are going to fill that up. What happened to all the promises of the PS3 too? There's a fuck load of stuff missing from it that they said would be on there. The PS3 is a train wreck of a console. They should just apologise and recall the lot. Start from scratch and remember why their previous consoles were such successes. It seems I could be bothered to type. |
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Video games are a lack of time. |
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yeah the PS3 is pretty much shit, it might make a comeback at some point in the future but right now its like wtf? i used to hate xbox and thought it was the shittiest PS2 clone ever. boy did the xbox 360 change that fast, far far superior library of games compared to the Ps3. |
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I've heard it was good if u had a high resolution TV. |
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Missing features indeed. The worst technical caveat for the PS3 is the lack of a properly functioning internal scaler. Unforgiveable oversight, although it did force me to sell my CRT HDTV and go digital. The only thing the PS3 really has on the 360 is 100% backwards compatibility. But even then, it doesn't even scale the games up to HD, like the 360 does, which I thought was going to be a feature. Compared to the PS2, which was easily the best console ever, the PS3 is indeed a clusterfuck. But I think it will mature into a great cult platform. |
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Only if you have the right kind. Sony dropped the ball there, as well. Which is hilarious considering Microsoft did it right THE YEAR BEFORE. |
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Well I'm in Europe so if I bought a PS3 I'd be fucked over on the backwards compatibility. Seeing as they swapped out the hardware components and changed it to a software emulator. That's right. They'll charge us more for less! Fuck you Sony. FUCK. YOU. |
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Been playing the 360 on a nice 40" HD Samsung and the improvement over the previous TV is pretty fucking amazing. I really didn't expect that much difference but it has made a big change. They should have a sticker on the box saying "Don't bother if you don't have a 1080i capable TV. It won't look that next gen." Sony should have that on PS3 too. |
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HD is very important. And not just for looks, but for gameplay. I've had to play Ghost Recon AW2 for 360 on a standard def TV the last week and I have trouble distinguishing far away enemies, where they're facing, making them out amongst foilage and background details, etc. In HD, it's much more playable and intuitive, details are more important than ever. And of course it looks hot. |
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haha, awesome! The University of Bergen just bought five ps3s because of their awesome processing power! For the price, the processors are awesomely good, and since they can link more than one machine together and get the processing power of both, the five of them together make up the most powerful computer at the university. They will be used for crunching numbers and ocean modelling in the first place, but probably also for other kinds of things in the future. According to the article (in norwegian), many universities have done this because of the cost/processing power ratio. |
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Shadow of the colossus, yes, that's another innovative game. I forgot that one. There are probably more, but recently there haven't been too many. And when it comes to the processing power. As I just said, there are more uses for it, but also, as you said, not many producers are going to take the time to code for it properly. That's a shame, but I also know that some producers (konami) will, and I know that the games they're going to put out (MGS4) are going to be the pinnacle of gaming and a standard for years and years after the game's release, maybe only beaten by the next installment (MGS5? I can only hope). The reason for not doing a new controller is because the one they have is so awesome, and all their users were outraged at that new design they came up with.. and I don't actually think that was because of the design in itself, but rather that it wasn't the good old controller! Honestly, I think the ps controller is the best one, everything is kind of intuitive, but I also know that that probably just boils down to habit. |
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I'd actually like a list of good games for the 360. I haven't tried any yet, but then all I've tried is that god damned lego star wars and gears of war and they were both fun for a minute or so and then they got boring. Same ol', same ol', and not even done right. |
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That's because the new design was shit. I remember hearing so much shit about the size of the xbox when it first came out. Now check out the size of the PS3! I swear I saw that thing in the opening scene of 2001. Why have Sony bothered to put in the SixAxiS thing? Palindrome fans or something. It's pointless. They should've stuck with rumble. Good 360 games: Dead Rising Crackdown Fight Night Round 3 (Now on PS3) Test Drive Unlimited Viva Pinata Gears of War Off the top of my head that's all I can think of. I haven't done Xbox Live Arcade. I enjoy all of those games immensely. I have yet to play on a PS3 but what I've seen just hasn't made me want to place down £425 of my money just for the console. Especially not when I could buy a 360 and a Wii and still have enough left over for a porno mag. |
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They're going to have both rumble and sixaxis. They just had some trouble with the company making the rumble stuff. I haven't seen any games that'd make me want to buy any of the consoles yet, to be honest.. The Wii has convinced me I won't be getting it, but the two others still have some potential, they just haven't used it yet. However, the trailers indicate that MGS4 will change that. I still won't be able to afford a ps3, but MGS will make me actually want one. I'll look into those games. Can't play them, as I have no 360, but trailers and reviews usually give a good enough picture (reviewers these days don't seem to know what they're talking about, though.. they were all "yeah, gears of war, bets game ever yaeh!" and then I played it and I was "where's the best game ever? This is a normal shoot em up. Disappointed." Igns "top all super games of ever!" list was also quite.. weird.. I couldn't even compile a top25 list, though.. I'd have to stop at 5 or 10 or something...). Crackdown looked like utter boredom. Test drive.. I never understood people who want to play simulators.. racing games, flight games, whatever.. it's awesomely boring! Same goes for sports games, excluding fight night. Normal boxing? Halo3 might deliver, but only as a multiplayer co-op game. |
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I found the Halo games interminably boring. Dead Rising is the best game ever simply because you get to heat up a frying pan and push it against a zombies face. There is no greater pleasure in life than that. Well there is actually, whacking the cunt to death (second death?) with it as well. Or maybe using a sledgehammer to bludgeon some more zombies. A Katana sword? A saw? A piece of wood? Another zombies leg? Great fun! Crackdown does look a bit boring but I decided to give it a whirl and I'm really enjoying it. Fantastic game. I hate collecting things in games but this game has me collecting fucking green orbs to upgrade my abilities. I'm happy though because it's a great challenge. First I have to find them and then I have to work out how to get to them. They can be in quite easy to reach places or way up on top of an aerial on the highest building. I need to work out a route to the top just to get this little orb. It's great fun. Especially when you leap off the building again crunch down onto the pavement and leave yourself with barely enough health to do anything more for a bit. At the moment my agility is nearing max in the game but everything else is lagging. I'm having too much fun leaping around. |
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Dead Rising and Crackdown are two very good reasons to own a 360. i have to say mastah that i thought your comment about MGS4 'I know that the games they're going to put out (MGS4) are going to be the pinnacle of gaming and a standard for years and years after the game's release...' was a joke at first. the hamfisted story telling of the last two was awful. MGS3 was pretty close to tedium in my opinion and quite far away from being innovative to any great degree (the camoflague was a nice touch though). In regards to the PS3. i havent seen a single store that has sold out and im not surprised. its an enormous pricetag for a console with no truly interesting games in its launch line up and only one or two over the next year. its definately not something i am even considering buying, for a year or two at least. |
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Yeah, Dead Rising was a blast. DM- The 360 had a banner first year or so, but if you aren't into strategic squad/cover-based shooters like Rainbow Six/Gears of War/Ghost Recon, and online gaming, don't bother. That's the dominant genre nad it's not your style (I fucking love it, Gears of War on Hardcore and Insane is not a ''normal shooter'' at all, it's a refined evolution of the stop-and-pop style). The more ambitious fare is coming later, but right now it's definitely a shooter-heavy console, as the first Xbox was. |
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not to sidetrack the discussion but when buying HDTVs what kind are the best with the least pixelation effect? I notice that a lot of the hd tvs i see at stores seem way too high contrasty and makes the mpeg compression very visible, much more than a normal TV. If im going to spend upwards of 1,000 on a tv i want to do this shit right. Im also debating whether i should get the hd-dvd addon for my 360 or get a blue-ray player instead. Are all the film companies doing one or the other (blueray vs hd-dvd)? |
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Indek- Metal Gear is definitely not for everyone. It has elements of sci-fi, Tom Clancy, Hollywood, anime, real-world politics and history, the supernatural, extreme melodrama, weird post-modern philosophy, cyberpunk, etc in a really fucked up mish mash, so naturally there's always something in there that's going to turn people off. I like to keep my tongue firmly planted in my cheek when I play it. I agree that it's ''hamfisted'', but for me, that's a good thing. The games themselves have their tongues in their cheeks, you can tell by all the running jokes and gags in them. |
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i agree mgs is tongue-in-cheek and i do take it lightly but the last half of 2 and all of 3 were crap for me. the first was such a sublime game. |
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Keep in mind that TVs in store often don't even display HD content anyway, and if they do, the settings are all out of whack to make the picture ''stand out'' in that kind of environment. It's called ''torch mode'' and it sucks. CRT will handle most resolutions the best, it handles almost everything natively. Conversely, you play 480i/p content on an LCD, and you're going to get bad pixelation, the kind you're seeing on those in-store display. But I've grown to prefer digital, I sold my CRT. Sharper picture on digital, my 360 looks much better on LCD than the CRT I had. Worse black levels but I don't really care about that. It depends on what you're going to use your TV for most, really. |
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well since i already have a nice standard TV id probably mostly want to use my hd tv for HD content, like playing my 360, watching hd-dvd movies and watching hd channels. |
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It depends on what you're going to use your TV for most, really. To wit, the poor black levels on LCDs make them bad choices for movie watching. You'd be better off with plasma, and especially CRT. But I mostly use my TV for HD gaming, 720p is native for Xbox, so LCD is perfect for that. Case by case basis, you know. |
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Do the stories in MGS have similar vibe to them as Fahrenheit a.k.a. The Indigo Prophecy? I quite enjoyed playing that game, but the plot made me feel sordid after. It was a green, slimy cliche more on the "lets make bucks on ufos and the paranormal" than on the "conscious pop-culture" side. |
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mgs3 wasn't really all to innovative (innovative games can be crap too (just look at those weird-ass japanese games coming out), I was just making a case about everyone going "ooh! aah! wii games are soo innovative!" when they aren't), but it was really well made. They thought about "everything," you had to make sure you ate well, that you treated your wounds, all while avoiding detection and keeping up. The story was pretty well played, imo. Not better than MGS1 of course, but still pretty good. |
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I didn't like the first rainbow six games, but I understand they've changed a bit lately. Anyway, I like some tactical shooter co-op games, but maybe in a different style. I loved playing through Commandos2 with a mate, for instance, because there you have people with different skills that HAVE to work together. That's what I loved about the co-op for that one Splinter Cell game, too; you couldn't do it with two people running around on each their place (like you can in halo, even though halo works anyway (only on co-op)) doing their own thing, you have to work together and use everyone's skills. It's also very tactical.. you take your time to analyse the routes of the soldiers patrolling, you set up your men and then you attack. It's just so much more satisfying when you're doing it with someone else and the plan you made works on the first go! |
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Depends on what part of Fahrenheit you mean. Now that you mention it, that was another enjoyable game, and slightly innovative in the.. combination? Weird with the sudden rhythmic-button-mashing sessions to do the action, but still enjoyable. The story was pretty much straightforward and on the shallow side, but still enough to keep the game together. Dead rising looks like another mindless boring game. I can't stand "duurr, empty head" games. |
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Oh, and about not using the blu-ray technology for games.. it's coming out for both consoles, but that enemy territory: quake wars game (which seems boring in other respects) which seems to have textures that take 6gb! If that isn't going to fill up a dvd in no time, I don't know what will, and with the xbox not having HD-DVD, people will have to get the external drive to get games with similar features in the future. |
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That was very bad English, but you get the gist. |
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6gb of textures?! fucking hell. |
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That's only one texture, I think. It's a bit vague. There's an interview with the producer at gametrailers.com. |
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Why oh why doesn't it have a HD-DVD is beyond my comprehension. Besides cutting down the costs I can think of only one reasonable explanation. Maybe Microsoft suspected that console players won't be patient enough to stand long loading times caused by the extreme size of textures. |
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I think it's because they wanted the box itself to cost less, so while the ps3 comes with blu-ray and costs more, xbox comes without hd-dvd and costs less. I'm betting load times aren't going to be a problem.. watch the interview. The guy says that even though the texture is 6gb, it doesn't take more than 30mb ram, meaning there's probably something fancy going on. |
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the trailer for that enemy territory looks a bit shit. |
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Later, withour watching the trailer I think that he meant that it is not taking more than 30mb of video memory at a time. |
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I know. It's just another boring "shoot! SHOOT!" game where you don't really do anything. It's probably fun on drunken multiplayer until everyone realises it's boring. |
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