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Can I get a sort of "their own version" of their disorder? Their experience of it? |
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ME! |
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how does that particular part of your existence feel. If you're on suppressive drugs, how did it feel before these drugs, and how does it feel on them? |
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when does something become a disorder? i know i have psychological problems but i don't know if that is enough to call it a disorder..i mean, i know im not normal but im aware of it which is odd..or not? |
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It's an arbitrary limit. Basically, a disorder is something far outside of "normal" behaviour, but it could just as easily be that "normal" behaviour today is abnormal behaviour somewhere or sometime else. I'm not sure your problems are psychological, though, they may only be existential. Not that that makes them less important, it just puts them in a different category. Also, no-one is normal in that sense: If you're normal, you're abnormal; you're both the normal and the abnormal, both the individual and the society. |
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In any case, can you describe your own experience of what you feel is the abnormal part of you? If you don't feel comfortable doing it in public, you can mail me. |
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I'd rather not. |
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i'd rather send it via email yeah..are you in a lot of hurry? |
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Oh I know you've got something good! Mail me. It's both for personal interest and for scientific interest (often coinciding), but I won't use anything explicitly in papers. |
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ive been diagnosed paranoid schizo phrenic while on lsd-25 but i dont think i really am ill in that way however i do take abilify and before i was on it my thoughts were sort of given free reign but now i do my best to administrate. like if i have a bad idea i stop thinking of it immediately rather than obsessing. |
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Well, I've got a bit of time. It's mainly just for my own thoughts for a master paper. I don't want to develop something that doesn't apply to life, if you know what I mean.. the best way is to look at peoples experiences, including my own. I've got some experience with mild depressions and stuff like that, but I'm kind of stubborn so I always get out of it just on the "I won't let myself" promise. |
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he has a Face-avatar |
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abilify? |
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I know. It's kind of disturbing, I think I need a hug... |
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biggiesmartypants hugs drunken mastah |
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Drunken Mastah hugs biggiesmartypants!!! |
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It feels like I exist in a big complex system where every constituent sub system is backfiring, polluting, snagged or otherwise ill. And likewise for all the subsystem's subsystems. No subsystem is completely broken; that would be too painless. They all continue to cause actions, only in complex fucked up ways, and they mutually interact with and fuck eachother up. That is a description of the environment and my own personal illness is a reflection of that. Also I've been taught by humans to fear and hate them. That conflicts with my genetic desire for female companionship such as qrter. It's like everything wants to pull my two brain hemispheres apart, most likely in a self destroying slice like how an orange doesn't seperate into segments properly when not ripe, and god knows what wants to come out. Maybe more trick can springy snakes than our current science could understand being able to fit in a small set volume. My mind wants to bend and destroy everything my eyes see or inflict it on myself in a solid burst of endless energy like the sun, or like I'm the lawnmower man beginning to implode due to having a soul composed of the neverending story's 'nothing'. When I look in the mirror I see gmork and I'm constantly shaddering. I am broken shards. But I'm in a good mood today and can't do much introspection of my fucked up moods unless I'm currently in one. But generally you can see my medical record by reading my history of xltronic posts. |
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Don't most people have some kind of psychological disorder? |
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haha awesome! |
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I actually want a proper description, but I'll take yours into consideration, as you're IAN NOLL KING OF ROCKNROLL!!! |
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Actually, Noll, just describe what you're experiencing right now. What you're actually experiencing. No fancy words, what's around you, how does it appear to you? |
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my chin is resting on a table and preventing me from stumbling over and my laptop is on this table and I'm kneeling on the ground. My legs are pretty uncomfortable from the kneeling and I have to go pee a little bit. I'm looking at the monitor and typing stuff. Right now I am typing this sentence. Just now I started rocking back and forth nervously mostly from having to pee which is causing this flimsy table to shake since my chin is resting on it. Also I only have one eye open; I only consiously realized that now and am not really sure why. I just opened both eyes and noticed how one eye (the open one) has a better view of the monitor and the other had one of my typing hands slightly in the way; their compined stereoscopic vision resulted in one blurred hand in the foreground so maybe having only one eye open was to eliminate that. I just swallowed right now. My nose is whistling. I laughed out loud when I wrote that last sentence but now realize its not funny. Well, I'm gonna go take a pee; thank you for your thorough investigation. Let me know if I can have a 'sane' stamp on my hand. |
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I do, I just wish I knew who, and what they suffer from, so I could watch for it. |
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I'm diagnosed with depression, mainly cause I can't be arsed talking about everything else I have with my shrink. I sit on anti-depressants. I don't have time to talk about it now either. Hah. |
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Merci. |
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That depends. Normality can be a disorder. |
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Clinical depression? How does that work out for you? |
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Some consider thought itself to be a psychological disorder. |
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A cancerous fluctuation in the space-time continuum. |
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Hahah, well in that case they're stupid and possibly in need of therapy. |
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I hate it when a psychological disorder is used by its sufferer to get away with being a lazy, self-consumed bore. Also, its cyclical nature can become tiresome, and lead to an erosion of sympathy. That may sound harsh but, hey, so what. |
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i think technically, a psychological issue is described as a disorder when it becomes an impairment on an individual's functioning within society. |
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Yeah. When you get a diagnosis, this is the same as having a choice, the choice between attempting to rest in its arms (which is irresponsible), and dealing with it, relating to it actively. "oh, I've got depression" "so the fuck what? Get out and do something then!" People with a depression don't like to hear it, but it's the only cure. |
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god damn my body demands sleep just when it's getting interesting. I will continue this when sober and rested. |
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but then again, that is just as vague. |
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bad, harmful or unskilful thought as a disorder / curable condition loving and compassionate thought as a skilful means |
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i don't think it's quite that simple. 'depression' is now an awful, overused word which holds more associations with rock music and women problems, than actual mental disorders. |
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Well, at the end of the day, isn't all thought worthless? Maybe you adhere to the belief that the Universe was created by its own thought. But then, aren't paradoxes a simple indicator that thought and logic are mortally flawed? And that, far from knowing all the things we think we know, our most basic brainwashed conceptions are based on total illusion? Isn't it true that, to become a true master at something, thought must first be annihilated? I know this is true regarding the two disciplines I am most adept at: Kung Fu and Piano Playing (did I say two? Well, they're exactly the same thing). And on the same wavelength, everything is One, and thought creates duality, and duality is the essence of Illusion. And Illusion is bad because Illusion is Convenience & Dissent and therefore has no merit and no worth. Thought is the corrupt filter between Universal Energy and Localised Energy, the distorted lens of perception which hides us from Reality; it is the swaddle of cotton-wool which provides false comfort and false security. Yes, Thought truly is worthless. |
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2 of my childhood friends have developed bi-polar disorder. I can't really describe what they're feeling though can I. Sometimes it's very sad. |
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existence is merely a series random actions, of which we try to put an order to, blah blah... i still struggle with this, as then existence too becomes worthless. |
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...AND, furthermore, Thought creates Time, and that is something extremely tiresome. Thinking gets in the way of action and spontaneity. When I truly play the piano, I am the piano and I am the music; otherwise I'm merely interacting with it, and my playing is tainted and worthwhile only as a practical exercise in moving my fingers along a white-and-black board of keys. It is reported that Chopin never engaged in Piano Exercises, and his playing is said to be the most exquisite ever. Existence is a verb, and thought destroys verbs. Verbs > Nouns. |
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series of random events^ |
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Random? Surely only Internet Teenagers use that word, and it's as worthless as they are. Words like Random, Noun, Matter, belong in a museum, untouched & unwept & unsung. |
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An Event is a noun; what you say there is the Antithesis of Existence, which is a verb. |
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well, if a teenager only exists on the internet then he surely is worthless. |
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i agree that thought produces illusion, but i think we stumble at the point where we try to discard it. we need to acknowledge and make room for our thoughts, good and bad, open our heart to them, in order to move beyond. in the case of a person suffering from an imbalance of bad thoughts, acknowledging their presence is only the first step. if we go about removing them one or two or three at a time, the next time we take a 'lucky dip' into our mind it is still likely that we will stumble across another bad thought. so what we need to do in addition is to outweigh the bad thoughts, by actively cultivating loving and compassionate thoughts. this means going out into the world and getting involved with other people, and helping them. helping others in effect for the greater good of everyone involved. you can see ive steered away from the notion of withdrawing from the world in to pursuit of happiness. there is no you or me in happiness, there is only all of us. |
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what is the theory that thought creates the universe called? is it just solipsism? im trying to decide whether to believe it but i want to know why other humans. |
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haha, yes, that is very true. Still, I'd rather they existed exclusively on the InterNet than burden themselves on our streets and ruining the fabric of what's left of our fractured and ironically-named Society. |
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if it's just that i definitelly am ill. but thinking about it, i prefer to be the way i am atm than to be like people that function within society. |
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this particular society that is. |
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