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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-20 16:59 [#02064428]
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hmm


 

online big from lsg on 2007-03-20 17:08 [#02064429]
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cue sad music


 

offline chaosmachine from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-03-20 17:19 [#02064437]
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ebay?


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-03-20 17:43 [#02064447]
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good riddance


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2007-03-20 19:02 [#02064472]
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she is devil!!


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-03-20 22:42 [#02064504]
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what a fool


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2007-03-20 23:04 [#02064510]
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jesus, who's stuff is that? I can't imagine how
shit-terrible one's quality of life would have to be to have
a collection of that size.


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-03-20 23:16 [#02064512]
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it must be real if i seen it on t3h interwebs


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-03-20 23:27 [#02064515]
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o? he or she could make lots of money with it. ...and
ofcourse, lots of money equals shittastic quality of live


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-21 00:37 [#02064529]
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my friend went to a second-hand bookstore in the city to
sell an armful of william burroughs novels. when he was
offered only $12 for them, he left the store.

then, 50 metres down the street, he dropped all of the books
into a bin, and said 'its not like theyre going to do anyone
any good!'


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-03-21 00:53 [#02064532]
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$12 can buy you... some food i guess. or burning the books
could at least heat your house (if you have a fireplace) and
that would save $ on electricity. but i guess that would be
bad for the environment. oh well. if you bought food. the
food would have to been shipped from somewhere and shipping
is also bad for the environment. he did the right thing, at
least now the books can biodegrade like they're naturally
supposed to after they're shipped to the landfill.


 

offline HmND from your mom (Israel) on 2007-03-21 03:35 [#02064572]
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SO MUCH ACID WASTED OH GOD WHY


 

offline FlyAgaric from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-03-21 04:13 [#02064580]
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Fly agaric extract, 1g


 

offline Brisk from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-03-21 04:57 [#02064584]
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"Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get
into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it
as far as you can"


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-21 06:15 [#02064604]
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I hate to sound like a young drug enthusiast but that is a
fantastic collection of drugs.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-21 07:33 [#02064615]
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"drugs are over-rated. you should get high on life."


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-21 07:46 [#02064618]
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dont throw it into the bin, atleast sell half of it. Think
of the money you could get (other than the years in prison
you'll have to spend if caught)


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-21 07:49 [#02064621]
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i figure he was a dealer, considering the amount he had. he
obviously got in trouble, and this was a rush to get rid of
the stuff he still had.


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-21 08:02 [#02064623]
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hm, i suppose it's a better idea to push it down the toilet
or something yeh


 

offline thatne from United States on 2007-03-21 08:57 [#02064639]
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of course you could just take all at once.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-03-21 13:11 [#02064737]
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that is a damn impressive collection.

brisk's hst quote is exactly what popped into my mind when i
saw that.

thats not as much a dealer's as a collector's stash, dealers
generally have huge bulk in one thing, not personal amount
of gobs and gobs of things. im not saying this guy didnt
deal, but he surely wasnt dealing things out of that stash.


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-03-21 13:21 [#02064742]
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throwing out this much lsd should be made illegal.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-21 13:27 [#02064744]
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oh right, the 4175 acid blotters were for himself? planning
on pulling a bit of a leary, was he?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2007-03-21 14:55 [#02064757]
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aw man, he's throwing away his pirate cam?!


 

offline michelnicholas from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-21 15:51 [#02064781]
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"throwing out this much lsd should be made illegal."

Sorry. Had to reiterate that.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-21 15:59 [#02064784]
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who cares. fuck drugs. get a life.


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-21 19:45 [#02064836]
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I may be alone here, but I feel it is possible to "have a
life" and be a drug user, in some cases even have an better
life than without.

But that's just me..


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-03-21 22:32 [#02064861]
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hah, i guess i just kind of glazed over the acid, i was more
oogling over the smattering of drugs that i will never get
my hands on.


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-03-22 02:46 [#02064889]
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i think humans need to incorparate the use of more
psychadelics to expand conciousness i mean were all
biological organisms and there's so much more of our minds
that we could unlock by interacting with the different
molecualr compositions of the other sentient beings that
inhabit this planet. is it any coincidence that plants and
humans are dependent on each other for the survival of each?
i don't believe it's so far fetched that humans have even
more to gain in universal understanding and the progression
of mental awareness from direct and constan interactation
with certain plants and their distinctive chemical
properties.


 

offline michelnicholas from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-22 15:46 [#02065046]
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^^^ True to an extent. Psychedelics can open doors but they
will always shut again as you return to baseline. I
recommend everyone read "Be Here Now" by Babba Ram Dass
a/k/a Dr. Richard Alpert a/k/a Tim Leary's partner back at
Harvard. In this book, I'd say he proves that the mental
state achieved by LSD and shrooms and whatnot can be a
permanent thing (in a good way, I'm not talking acid freak
out, I mean the "oneness" one feels with life, the universe,
and everything) when certain meditation techniques and
lifestyle changes are applied. It's a hard road to tread
however, and simply WANTING to achieve that state of mind
naturally will prevent your enlightenment. You must be
totally selfless in the matter, and for most humans, it's
near impossible.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-22 16:27 [#02065074]
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i strongly disagree with that idea. my experience tells me
that drugs only serve to cloud the mind. anything you take
puts up a screen between yourself and the true nature of
reality.


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-03-22 17:42 [#02065096]
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which drugs in particular? what's your definition of the
mind? and how do you explain consciousness?


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-22 18:00 [#02065108]
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we could define the mind as the centre of our being, or our
true self. the mind receives information from the brain and
the five senses. the interplay of information between these
places can be defined as consciousness.

so it follows that if the brain is damaged in some way, then
the mind would not be receiving the correct messages, nor
may it be able to communicate the right information
outwards.

that is why when people suffer strokes or other forms of
brain damage, the mind is often functioning normally, but
they may not be able to make their body do what they want it
to do.

another example would be a sufferer of brain damage who is
unable to correctly interpret social or physical
information, and appears to respond inappropriately.

to relate this to drug use: it would follow that if a person
manipulates the brain and/or the five senses in some way
with a foreign agent, then the information being sent to the
mind is likely to be illusory in nature: even more so than
it normally is with our existing constuctions and
preconceptions.

when i mentioned drugs in my last post i was referring to
all of them. ive even come to notice the subtle effects of
caffeine and painkillers. is it worthwhile to side-step
around our difficulties when we are presented with an
opportunity to learn from them? and not only do we pass up
that opportunity, but we also risk causing yet more
attachments and preconceptions, deviations from the nature
of our mind.


 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2007-03-22 21:42 [#02065146]
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consider the television and the computer you just typed on
to create the last message as a drug... it has had its
effects on you now hasn't it?


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-22 22:15 [#02065152]
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if we wanted to go to extremes and live the life of the
buddhist monk then we would avoid things like tv. its also
true that we can develop an addiction or obsession with any
physical object or mental manifestation.

so i agree that all of these things share the same illusory
nature. drug-taking and other escapist tendencies all have
the opposite effect to approaching 'enlightenment'. i just
feel that the intention is especially misled with the act of
taking drugs.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-22 22:32 [#02065156]
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but to answer your question without going off on a tangent
.. :)

say im sitting here typing an answer to your question. the
way in which im interpreting whats in front of me has not
been drastically altered. i still have a similar mood to
before, and i still have a very similar awareness of my
surroundings.

now if there was a bottle of wine in the middle of my
computer desk and i drank it while answering your question,
my awareness of my surroundings and my emotional response
would more than likely be quite different!

would that be more reflective of my true self, or would it
be more reflective of the drug's effect of me?


 

offline michelnicholas from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-22 22:39 [#02065157]
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And reading the book i mentioned, you pretty much do have to
become a Buddhist monk to reach enlightenment. Normal life
leads to attachments. Attachments lead to, as rockenjohnny
said, addictions and obsessions. Drugs, love, movies, food,
and even music other than that used in ritual are examples
of things that keep people from reaching that true peace. I
also agree that drugs mislead, but it is my humble opinion
that psychedelics, when in the hands of intelligent folk,
can be used as a tool for inspiration and guidance.


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-03-23 00:36 [#02065179]
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damn, i'm a try and make this quick as i expalined in the
fuck americans thread already cuz i'm beyond mega tired
right now, but... the sober mind is not more reflective of
your true self, it's more reflective of the
self-righteous ideals that you aspire to become. the sober
conscious is more reflective of your predilection toward who
you want to be instead of who you truly are. the
wine would exactly be more reflective of your true self
because you would no longer be inhibited by a mental process
imposing restraint upon your behavior. the wine would
uninhibit any inner impediment to free activity, expression
or function allowing you to be who you truly are.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-23 01:09 [#02065189]
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that doesnt make sense to me. i would say that a sober mind,
when trained, has a far greater capacity to observe and
dissolve illusion than a mind which has been deliberately
placed into deeper illusion.

i also think there is some difference between losing ones
inhibitions and having self-awareness. when you drink a
bottle of beer, you dont see yourself or the world more
clearly: instead you view the world through beer-goggles!


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-23 01:13 [#02065190]
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i dont mean to drag you into a philosophical discussion when
youre beyond tired. its alright for me, ive still got
sunlight and blue skies!


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-03-23 12:36 [#02065346]
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imho, there's no differing degree of illusion in a sober
mind or an altered one; they are all seperate states of
consciousness, each with their own filters.

when on drugs, you mind stops filtering out somethings which
your base line conscious mind would, but it also comes with
its own stange filters.

only expereincing the small amount of the world which is
perceived through the sober mind would be terribly boring.
im not saying one leads to enlightenment more than the
other, thats a ridiculous concept. enlightenment is the
infinite to our finite minds, youre never going to reach it,
no matter what level of sobriety you are at. just that
limiting yourself to one state of consciousness is a waste
of your brain, like only trying vanilla ice cream all your
life. sure, you may not like other flavors youve tried, but
at least you now know you like vanilla more.

or whatever.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-23 14:15 [#02065369]
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the buddhist concept of enlightment describes a state where
one is released from all attachment, including the self and
ego, the five senses, and all derived preconceptions.

any deliberately placed object, agent or concept stands as
an obstacle in the path to enlightenment.

it would be true to say that only a sober mind trained
through years of meditation would be able to arrive at that
destination. it is definitely achievable. i dont think it
would be correct to view these conditions as a limitation to
our mental faculties, i would say more confidently that the
opposite is true.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-03-23 17:47 [#02065449]
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the dalai lama has said that he himself has not yet reached
enlightenment.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2007-03-23 17:53 [#02065452]
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I should get rid of my collection of condoms.


 

offline retape from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-03-23 18:23 [#02065463]
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awesome


 

offline entelechy from Brisbane (Australia) on 2007-03-23 19:04 [#02065469]
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"Psychedelics can open doors but they
will always shut again as you return to baseline."

I have to disagree! Over 3 years ago I had a mescaline trip,
which changed the way I experienced reality from then forth.
I had tried drugs before- and psychedelics. But on this
"trip" things were different. I became ecstatically happy,
and felt most connected to the world and indeed the
universe. I saw things differently, recognizing similar
patterns in trees, grass, clouds- basically any natural
phenomena. Fractal patterns. 12 hours later, after the
effects of the drug had well and truly worn off, the
patterns remained. I thought that when I went to sleep,
things would return to "normal" but I truly did not want it
to be so. But, much to my suprise and joy, this new way of
perceiving the world never went away. Energy fields, higher
colour saturation, more detailed (higher resolution?) vision
remains to this very day


 

offline michelnicholas from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-23 21:40 [#02065488]
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There's a name for that. Some acronym I forgot, probably
due to all that horrible horrible drug use that was just SO
WRONG!
SO WRONG!
WRONG I SAY!
Mr. Macky said "Drugs are Bad".
He meant it.
If any ONE person on this board comes over to my house and
enjoys a spliff with me, they shall be damned because
occasional dabblers in drugs are idiots and should be put
out of their misery cuz they - OUCH! MY PENIS!


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2007-03-24 08:34 [#02065597]
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i'm gonna try and make this quick cuz it's 8:30a and i just
got home from work and i've had 3 hours of sleep in the last
64 hours so far...

the buddhist concept of enlightment describes a state
where one is released from all attachment, including the
self and ego, the five senses, and all derived
preconceptions.


maybe i'm delusional from the lack of sleep, but if i'm not
mistaken, what you just described pretty accurately
describes DEATH!!!

anyways, just felt the need to point that out. i'll be back
to discuss more later. ;)


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2007-03-24 09:07 [#02065600]
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WHats the 'true nature of reality' ?


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-24 09:09 [#02065601]
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DXM


 


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