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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-03-24 09:13 [#02065602]
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Why do I always feel im being mocked?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-24 09:15 [#02065603]
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because reality exists to mock you
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-24 09:18 [#02065604]
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BRILLIANT!!!
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-03-24 09:26 [#02065605]
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lets talk about conciousnes. conciousnes to be precise can not be in a 'state' what is in a state is in fact YOUR BRAIN. So, how the fuck can drugs, expand your conciousnes?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-03-24 09:30 [#02065608]
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I mean Beer also 'expands' your liver, but I guess thats not what we are talking about here. Infact, I dont even know what we are talking about here.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-03-24 10:22 [#02065631]
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i suppose some people would find it extremely offending, condescending, arrogant, ridiculous etc if i said i feel deeply sorry for people who refuse to have a psychedelic experience at least once, for whatever reasons they may have.
I am deeply sorry for people who refuse to have a psychedelic experience at least once.
To try and explain why that is, is like trying to explain what the world looks like to a person who has been blind his/her entire life.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-03-24 10:27 [#02065633]
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some people have serious negative reactions to psychedelic experiences, like overt paranoia and hellish introspective nightmares. you may say this can be benificial to humans by learning from this but most of them come out a wreck. some people are just not meant to have psychedelic experiences.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-03-24 10:28 [#02065635]
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psychedelic experiences are all good and shit. but they might sound like bullshit to a sober person
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-03-24 10:32 [#02065638]
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have you ever had a psychedelic experience, monoid? if you did, i'd like to hear about it.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-03-24 10:32 [#02065640]
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That's actually a very good point and i was careless enough to oversee it.
I do know that and i should have put it another way. People who suffer from any form of mental illness, or in case a history of mental illness is known in someones relatives, should most likely not take psychedelics. At least not outside a therpeutical setting.
The people with 'sober minds' that have preconceptions regarding psychedelics AND people who are afraid of them (and there is nothing wrong with that per se) however, should, in my opinion, never say never.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-03-24 10:35 [#02065641]
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Yes. I once suffered from heavy toothache
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-03-24 10:36 [#02065642]
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lawl. funny monoid.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-24 10:39 [#02065645]
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Rich go make a new album please instead of making shit threads
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-24 16:27 [#02065730]
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i should expand on the means to this end:
the buddhist concept of enlightment describes a state where one is released from all attachment, including the self and ego, the five senses, and all derived preconceptions.
the 'state' is one of extremely deep meditation. 'enlightenment' is the realisation made by the meditator while in this state.
youre right to say that deep meditation reflects death. the process of reaching the centre of our being (the mind) invloves a letting go of all cognition and physical awareness.
buddhist belief suggests that when we actually do die, it is the mind that remains and is reborn into a new body.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-24 16:42 [#02065735]
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so given what ive described so far, i might describe why the dalai lama would say he has not reached enlightenment.
what is the next step after one reaches enlightenment?
this person is an arahant. they have now broken the cycle of rebirth. the mind disappears from this world completely and moves into the spirit realm, or nibbana.
the dalai lama is a monk from the mahayana buddhist tradition. being of this order, he has taken the bodhisattva vow, which to put it roughly, states that 'i will not leave this world until all other beings are enlightened'.
theravadin buddhist monks do have the bodhisattva vow in their tradition. they are free to become arahants and enter nibbana.
those are some technicalities surrounding branches of buddhism. but lets not forget that enlightenment can take a large number to rebirths to realise! the dalai lama may yet reach this state in his lifetime, or it may occur in a future life. the buddha himself reached enlightenment on his 10th rebirth.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-24 16:51 [#02065736]
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sorry, i meant to say theravadin monks 'do not take' the bodhisattva vow :)
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-03-24 16:56 [#02065739]
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hahahahahahaha
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-03-25 09:15 [#02065940]
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I dunno, anyone who does drugs nowadays is kind of stupid in my opinion.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-03-27 04:04 [#02066625]
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Saying anyone who does drugs is intelligent is just as bad as saying anyone who does drugs is stupid. Don't be stupid.
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entelechy
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2007-03-27 05:07 [#02066637]
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Well, it all comes down to societal definitons of "drugs" then doesn't it. If anyone who takes drugs is stupid... well that's just about everyone really...
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-27 06:04 [#02066642]
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me babe throwin out into the bin into the bin
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-04-05 18:07 [#02069778]
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Well, I said that under the assumption that that was a personal stash (got that vibe from the caption of the pic) but you're right, it could also be someone's "inventory," so to speak.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-04-05 18:11 [#02069780]
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im sad that he threw away the PCP and Iboga, two of the drugs i have not tasted in his collection
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-04-05 18:57 [#02069791]
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Do yourself a favor and keep it that way.
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