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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-20 16:59 [#02064428]
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hmm
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big
from lsg on 2007-03-20 17:08 [#02064429]
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cue sad music
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2007-03-20 17:19 [#02064437]
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ebay?
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-03-20 17:43 [#02064447]
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good riddance
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QRDL
from Poland on 2007-03-20 19:02 [#02064472]
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she is devil!!
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2007-03-20 22:42 [#02064504]
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what a fool
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-03-20 23:04 [#02064510]
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jesus, who's stuff is that? I can't imagine how shit-terrible one's quality of life would have to be to have a collection of that size.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-20 23:16 [#02064512]
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it must be real if i seen it on t3h interwebs
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-03-20 23:27 [#02064515]
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o? he or she could make lots of money with it. ...and ofcourse, lots of money equals shittastic quality of live
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-21 00:37 [#02064529]
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my friend went to a second-hand bookstore in the city to sell an armful of william burroughs novels. when he was offered only $12 for them, he left the store.
then, 50 metres down the street, he dropped all of the books into a bin, and said 'its not like theyre going to do anyone any good!'
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-21 00:53 [#02064532]
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$12 can buy you... some food i guess. or burning the books could at least heat your house (if you have a fireplace) and that would save $ on electricity. but i guess that would be bad for the environment. oh well. if you bought food. the food would have to been shipped from somewhere and shipping is also bad for the environment. he did the right thing, at least now the books can biodegrade like they're naturally supposed to after they're shipped to the landfill.
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HmND
from your mom (Israel) on 2007-03-21 03:35 [#02064572]
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SO MUCH ACID WASTED OH GOD WHY
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-03-21 04:13 [#02064580]
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Fly agaric extract, 1g
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-03-21 04:57 [#02064584]
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"Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can"
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-21 06:15 [#02064604]
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I hate to sound like a young drug enthusiast but that is a fantastic collection of drugs.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-21 07:33 [#02064615]
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"drugs are over-rated. you should get high on life."
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-21 07:46 [#02064618]
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dont throw it into the bin, atleast sell half of it. Think of the money you could get (other than the years in prison you'll have to spend if caught)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-21 07:49 [#02064621]
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i figure he was a dealer, considering the amount he had. he obviously got in trouble, and this was a rush to get rid of the stuff he still had.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-21 08:02 [#02064623]
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hm, i suppose it's a better idea to push it down the toilet or something yeh
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thatne
from United States on 2007-03-21 08:57 [#02064639]
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of course you could just take all at once.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-03-21 13:11 [#02064737]
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that is a damn impressive collection.
brisk's hst quote is exactly what popped into my mind when i saw that.
thats not as much a dealer's as a collector's stash, dealers generally have huge bulk in one thing, not personal amount of gobs and gobs of things. im not saying this guy didnt deal, but he surely wasnt dealing things out of that stash.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-03-21 13:21 [#02064742]
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throwing out this much lsd should be made illegal.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-21 13:27 [#02064744]
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oh right, the 4175 acid blotters were for himself? planning on pulling a bit of a leary, was he?
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-03-21 14:55 [#02064757]
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aw man, he's throwing away his pirate cam?!
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michelnicholas
from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-21 15:51 [#02064781]
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"throwing out this much lsd should be made illegal."
Sorry. Had to reiterate that.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-21 15:59 [#02064784]
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who cares. fuck drugs. get a life.
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-21 19:45 [#02064836]
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I may be alone here, but I feel it is possible to "have a life" and be a drug user, in some cases even have an better life than without.
But that's just me..
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-03-21 22:32 [#02064861]
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hah, i guess i just kind of glazed over the acid, i was more oogling over the smattering of drugs that i will never get my hands on.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-22 02:46 [#02064889]
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i think humans need to incorparate the use of more psychadelics to expand conciousness i mean were all biological organisms and there's so much more of our minds that we could unlock by interacting with the different molecualr compositions of the other sentient beings that inhabit this planet. is it any coincidence that plants and humans are dependent on each other for the survival of each? i don't believe it's so far fetched that humans have even more to gain in universal understanding and the progression of mental awareness from direct and constan interactation with certain plants and their distinctive chemical properties.
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michelnicholas
from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-22 15:46 [#02065046]
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^^^ True to an extent. Psychedelics can open doors but they will always shut again as you return to baseline. I recommend everyone read "Be Here Now" by Babba Ram Dass a/k/a Dr. Richard Alpert a/k/a Tim Leary's partner back at Harvard. In this book, I'd say he proves that the mental state achieved by LSD and shrooms and whatnot can be a permanent thing (in a good way, I'm not talking acid freak out, I mean the "oneness" one feels with life, the universe, and everything) when certain meditation techniques and lifestyle changes are applied. It's a hard road to tread however, and simply WANTING to achieve that state of mind naturally will prevent your enlightenment. You must be totally selfless in the matter, and for most humans, it's near impossible.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-22 16:27 [#02065074]
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i strongly disagree with that idea. my experience tells me that drugs only serve to cloud the mind. anything you take puts up a screen between yourself and the true nature of reality.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-22 17:42 [#02065096]
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which drugs in particular? what's your definition of the mind? and how do you explain consciousness?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-22 18:00 [#02065108]
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we could define the mind as the centre of our being, or our true self. the mind receives information from the brain and the five senses. the interplay of information between these places can be defined as consciousness.
so it follows that if the brain is damaged in some way, then the mind would not be receiving the correct messages, nor may it be able to communicate the right information outwards.
that is why when people suffer strokes or other forms of brain damage, the mind is often functioning normally, but they may not be able to make their body do what they want it to do.
another example would be a sufferer of brain damage who is unable to correctly interpret social or physical information, and appears to respond inappropriately.
to relate this to drug use: it would follow that if a person manipulates the brain and/or the five senses in some way with a foreign agent, then the information being sent to the mind is likely to be illusory in nature: even more so than it normally is with our existing constuctions and preconceptions.
when i mentioned drugs in my last post i was referring to all of them. ive even come to notice the subtle effects of caffeine and painkillers. is it worthwhile to side-step around our difficulties when we are presented with an opportunity to learn from them? and not only do we pass up that opportunity, but we also risk causing yet more attachments and preconceptions, deviations from the nature of our mind.
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2007-03-22 21:42 [#02065146]
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consider the television and the computer you just typed on to create the last message as a drug... it has had its effects on you now hasn't it?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-22 22:15 [#02065152]
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if we wanted to go to extremes and live the life of the buddhist monk then we would avoid things like tv. its also true that we can develop an addiction or obsession with any physical object or mental manifestation.
so i agree that all of these things share the same illusory nature. drug-taking and other escapist tendencies all have the opposite effect to approaching 'enlightenment'. i just feel that the intention is especially misled with the act of taking drugs.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-22 22:32 [#02065156]
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but to answer your question without going off on a tangent .. :)
say im sitting here typing an answer to your question. the way in which im interpreting whats in front of me has not been drastically altered. i still have a similar mood to before, and i still have a very similar awareness of my surroundings.
now if there was a bottle of wine in the middle of my computer desk and i drank it while answering your question, my awareness of my surroundings and my emotional response would more than likely be quite different!
would that be more reflective of my true self, or would it be more reflective of the drug's effect of me?
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michelnicholas
from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-22 22:39 [#02065157]
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And reading the book i mentioned, you pretty much do have to become a Buddhist monk to reach enlightenment. Normal life leads to attachments. Attachments lead to, as rockenjohnny said, addictions and obsessions. Drugs, love, movies, food, and even music other than that used in ritual are examples of things that keep people from reaching that true peace. I also agree that drugs mislead, but it is my humble opinion that psychedelics, when in the hands of intelligent folk, can be used as a tool for inspiration and guidance.
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-23 00:36 [#02065179]
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damn, i'm a try and make this quick as i expalined in the fuck americans thread already cuz i'm beyond mega tired right now, but... the sober mind is not more reflective of your true self, it's more reflective of the self-righteous ideals that you aspire to become. the sober conscious is more reflective of your predilection toward who you want to be instead of who you truly are. the wine would exactly be more reflective of your true self because you would no longer be inhibited by a mental process imposing restraint upon your behavior. the wine would uninhibit any inner impediment to free activity, expression or function allowing you to be who you truly are.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-23 01:09 [#02065189]
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that doesnt make sense to me. i would say that a sober mind, when trained, has a far greater capacity to observe and dissolve illusion than a mind which has been deliberately placed into deeper illusion.
i also think there is some difference between losing ones inhibitions and having self-awareness. when you drink a bottle of beer, you dont see yourself or the world more clearly: instead you view the world through beer-goggles!
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-23 01:13 [#02065190]
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i dont mean to drag you into a philosophical discussion when youre beyond tired. its alright for me, ive still got sunlight and blue skies!
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-03-23 12:36 [#02065346]
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imho, there's no differing degree of illusion in a sober mind or an altered one; they are all seperate states of consciousness, each with their own filters.
when on drugs, you mind stops filtering out somethings which your base line conscious mind would, but it also comes with its own stange filters.
only expereincing the small amount of the world which is perceived through the sober mind would be terribly boring. im not saying one leads to enlightenment more than the other, thats a ridiculous concept. enlightenment is the infinite to our finite minds, youre never going to reach it, no matter what level of sobriety you are at. just that limiting yourself to one state of consciousness is a waste of your brain, like only trying vanilla ice cream all your life. sure, you may not like other flavors youve tried, but at least you now know you like vanilla more.
or whatever.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-23 14:15 [#02065369]
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the buddhist concept of enlightment describes a state where one is released from all attachment, including the self and ego, the five senses, and all derived preconceptions.
any deliberately placed object, agent or concept stands as an obstacle in the path to enlightenment.
it would be true to say that only a sober mind trained through years of meditation would be able to arrive at that destination. it is definitely achievable. i dont think it would be correct to view these conditions as a limitation to our mental faculties, i would say more confidently that the opposite is true.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-03-23 17:47 [#02065449]
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the dalai lama has said that he himself has not yet reached enlightenment.
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Combo
from Sex on 2007-03-23 17:53 [#02065452]
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I should get rid of my collection of condoms.
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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2007-03-23 18:23 [#02065463]
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awesome
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entelechy
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2007-03-23 19:04 [#02065469]
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"Psychedelics can open doors but they will always shut again as you return to baseline."
I have to disagree! Over 3 years ago I had a mescaline trip, which changed the way I experienced reality from then forth. I had tried drugs before- and psychedelics. But on this "trip" things were different. I became ecstatically happy, and felt most connected to the world and indeed the universe. I saw things differently, recognizing similar patterns in trees, grass, clouds- basically any natural phenomena. Fractal patterns. 12 hours later, after the effects of the drug had well and truly worn off, the patterns remained. I thought that when I went to sleep, things would return to "normal" but I truly did not want it to be so. But, much to my suprise and joy, this new way of perceiving the world never went away. Energy fields, higher colour saturation, more detailed (higher resolution?) vision remains to this very day
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michelnicholas
from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-23 21:40 [#02065488]
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There's a name for that. Some acronym I forgot, probably due to all that horrible horrible drug use that was just SO WRONG!
SO WRONG! WRONG I SAY! Mr. Macky said "Drugs are Bad". He meant it. If any ONE person on this board comes over to my house and enjoys a spliff with me, they shall be damned because occasional dabblers in drugs are idiots and should be put out of their misery cuz they - OUCH! MY PENIS!
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-03-24 08:34 [#02065597]
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i'm gonna try and make this quick cuz it's 8:30a and i just got home from work and i've had 3 hours of sleep in the last 64 hours so far...
the buddhist concept of enlightment describes a state where one is released from all attachment, including the self and ego, the five senses, and all derived preconceptions.
maybe i'm delusional from the lack of sleep, but if i'm not mistaken, what you just described pretty accurately describes DEATH!!!
anyways, just felt the need to point that out. i'll be back to discuss more later. ;)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2007-03-24 09:07 [#02065600]
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WHats the 'true nature of reality' ?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-24 09:09 [#02065601]
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