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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 12:48 [#02061398]
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Does anyone have any tips?
What's the best options etc? Just a link to a good online guide would be appreciated.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 12:54 [#02061403]
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Plently of RAM. If you're building from scratch check out Maxtor Maxline disks.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-03-12 12:59 [#02061409]
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Why plenty of RAM?
If you are just after network storage take a look at the Linksys NSLU2 with a couple of externals.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 13:05 [#02061414]
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Damn, that looks pretty sweet.
Can I daisy chain USB items onto it? I suppose not but it would be sweet. I'll just buy an enclosure for the 500gig and I'm sorted. Cheers mate.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 13:07 [#02061415]
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it helps with multiple requests, also a file server usually runs other services. But a NAS would be better for a home network.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-03-12 13:08 [#02061417]
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It allows you to connect two USB drives. The only thing you should be aware of before you buy is that you have to format your drive before you can use it with it (ext3 file system). I started with two fresh drives so it didn't affect me but dunno whether the 500gb you are on about already has stuff on it.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-03-12 13:10 [#02061418]
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Nah, you only need a lot of RAM if you are running a dbms or web server with server side processing etc. SMB has only modest requirements.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 13:13 [#02061420]
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NAS
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 13:16 [#02061421]
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a cheap system say a PIII, would you be happy with just 64MB? Even basic SMB would be sluggish. I'd say 256MB at least.
But it depends on your definition of a 'cheap' system.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-03-12 13:17 [#02061422]
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low spec
use debian
or go the easy route and get a NAS
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-03-12 13:41 [#02061427]
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haha 256MB isn't "plenty of RAM"...maybe 5 years ago it was. Plenty of RAM these days is 2GB up. In any case 64Mb would probably work just fine depending on the OS you are running.
The benefit of the Linksys and the externals is that the NSLU2 are a)you get to choose the drive b)if anything fails, just that component needs to be replaced c)it is an embedded system with a 266MHz Intel XScale running Linux which means it's nice to piss about with.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-03-12 13:41 [#02061428]
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Ignore the grammar.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-12 13:47 [#02061429]
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The 500gig hasn't even arrived in the post yet.
This is definitely looking like a good option. Saves me building something myself and all the twatting around with OS's as well.
Doing a google on it there appears to be a firmware upgrade allowing your to use FAT32 and NTFS formatted drives now. Also custom firmwares available. I'll investigate that more.
I might pop the 500gig into my computer anyway and buy a separate 500gig external. the 1TB ones are too expensive right now.
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big
from lsg on 2007-03-12 14:21 [#02061440]
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http://xltronic.com/mb/93998
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xf
from Australia on 2007-03-16 03:26 [#02062849]
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sheffieldbleep: dude, you're seriously giving really bad advice. ram means pretty much sweet f* all with a file server. many cheap NAS's usually are embedded linux machines with perhaps 8-16MB RAM max (sometimes less). mind you, they are embedded OS's.
you'd easily get away with installing a modern linux on an old pentium III or something with 64MB ram, and ensuring only the services you need run. the biggest thing to worry about is disk I/O latency, so if you're using older equipment, it's probably worthwhile sticking a cheap PCI SATA or IDE card into it along with some new hard drives. RAID isn't a bad move (you can do this in software, no need to buy expensive RAID cards).
you're probably best using a Linux that comes with a nice web interface to install this - all you need to do is get an old PC, stick a CD in, and follow the instructions.
there's a bunch out there...
SME Server is the obvious one that comes to mind (http://www.smeserver.org/). I haven't used it in years though.
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xf
from Australia on 2007-03-16 03:27 [#02062850]
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also: the NSLU2 as an appliance solution really isn't a bad idea - if you just want a basic, no frills, reliable file server, it's worth looking at.
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-17 02:40 [#02063109]
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I disagree completely. My experience has led me to believe otherwise. Although I’m talking about a working environment with real demands which may not be relevant in a hobbyist/enthusiast situation.
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