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i think industrial techno/hardcore will be the new trend for the couple 5 years with people like surgeon, british murder boys are getting quite big i think also in holland their seems to be a really revolution with industrial hardcore partys with new labels like the third movement its about time hard music is becoming good again after all that fake shit like hardstyle/hard trance what do you think is industrial hardcore/techno also getting bigger in other countrys? |
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I hate "hardcore" with a passion. It's not remotely menacing or "hard" sounding. It's comical and to me, has the same effect as the "I know a song that will get on your nerves..." song. Sorry, that's not a very constructive post, I know. |
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any examples/links? |
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href="http://3voor12.vpro.nl/artiesten/artiest/22891491[URL STORE://0] |
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surgeon DOES rock, but never knew this was called 'industrial hardcore'? I think it's a shitty name |
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It'll always be niche. Artists like Alec Empire have been pushing that kinda sound for years. Surgeon is decent, but his stuff isn't just limited to that "industrial techno" sound. It also grates heavily after a while. Ever heard a 3 hour Schranz techno set? Jesus. |
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yeah surgeon is industrial techno ofcourse but the term industrial is really weird i think you can mean industrial rock like throbbing ghristle, coil or techno like afx-joyrexs,anologue bublebath,surgeon in a way autechre is industrial too they sound totally like machines especially their latest stuff |
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Hardcore died 9-10 years ago already... But it's been picking up steam again recently. Here's some shit i was doing back in the mid-90's: |
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I hadn't listened to hardcore in years and didn't exactly love it when I did, then went to an event a month ago in Cardiff and had a ball. 12 hours of stomping! The beat never changes! Everyone's wearing fluffy boots! It rooled. |
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thats pretty nice stuff very industrial too i think you can really devide hard music most is crap ofcourse but sometimes there are really cool tracks mostly industrial really like hellfish too the stuff aphex plays at the end of his sets :-) |
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hellfish and producer are great. :) check out "no mistakes allowed" if you get the chance. |
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Here's more if you are so inclined: I'll warn you, those tracks are dated, and produced poorly. Then again, most early gabber was. :) |
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haha i thought you meant "industrial hardcore the new shit" like "green is the new black" i wouldve agreed |
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I'm waiting for: "+260 pixels is the new black". |
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to me its all more "Post-Industrial" its still heavy and the sound design tends to be more textured and edgy but the arrangments definately are inspired and influenced by the techno genre [and its many subgenres] to trewq's comment i agree that autechre fits more into this style not so much with amber and incunabula but from tri repetae on the sound design and their arrangment process harken to the place and moods that artists like coil, hafler trio, spk, cabaret voltaire, etc come from |
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Are you refering to "power noise" or "power electronics"? generally slower than gabber/hardcore, in the 140bpm range, kicks have a short attack, and more "crunch" with static-y overtone. |
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I think it already happened about 10 years ago and didn't catch on, I don't see it doing so now. The problem then is that if you have taken a pill you want to feel uplifted and more than 10mins can be quite boring if you are loved up. I like it and it does remind me of some of the clubs I used to go to when I was a kid, but I would always find myself migrating to another room that was a bit happier. |
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hardcore/gabber isnt dead but its not actually alive... it became more dedicated hard music as 4 me i l really liked that stuff in 96-98 (australian sound, frenchcore, uk sound) and love to the hard fast industrial beats was the consequence to popularity of rave-culture of early 90's then it was forgotten even for clubbers till 2005-2006 so now it plays together with hard idm, d'n'b, and even pumpin club shit at open air parties and dancing fuckers like it again much btw i like to compose very different music from depressive dark ambient or classic idm to techstep d'n'b or speedcore and even fuckin dafthouse sumtimes. yes. that's why i like ELECTRoNIC MUSIC. AND LIKE IT ALL. |
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Sounds like Halfassed structure, repetative beat and samples. That must take alot to do.... |
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if its in reference to power-noise/electronics i aggree with 010101 that shit is so redundant after about 15 minutes and like gabber seems to be locked into a very narrow formula as far as arrangment is concerned there are like a small handful of artist in this genre that stick out and or keep things interesting in this realm |
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