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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-02-15 14:20 [#02050720]
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Do you think he's a bit overrated? I mean, I like some of his routines, but he seemed to get so worked up and over-emotional about all the unjustice in the world (fair enough, obvs) that sometimes it's embarassing to watch. I prefer stand ups like Eddie Murphy that are all about just straight-ahead killer jokes. Audiences only like being preached to if they agree with what's being said, so there doesn't seem like much point to it. He wasn't shit by any means, but he has been canonised since his death.
Sam Kinison was just rubbish, though.
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epohs
from )C: on 2007-02-15 14:26 [#02050724]
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yeah
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-15 14:39 [#02050731]
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Yes. Funny guy, but undeserving of the "God of comedy" status some bestow upon him.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2007-02-15 14:54 [#02050744]
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someone becoming inordinately popular after their tragic death?! surely not, where do you come up with this bibble?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-15 15:23 [#02050763]
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He died before the iPod generation raped everything to shreds, when it was still OK to be passionate about things.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-15 15:27 [#02050765]
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Comedy?? LOL!!
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swears
from junk sleep on 2007-02-15 15:28 [#02050766]
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*injustice in the world...
Wow, that typo was retarded, even by my standards.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-15 15:47 [#02050770]
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I enjoy his stuff. Annoyingly though most of his live CDs are the same material. I don't know if this was just him or the dearth of recordings.
He was much better to listen to when he was arguing with the audience.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2007-02-15 15:55 [#02050771]
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No, Bill Hicks isn't overrated and anyone claiming otherwise can fuck right off.
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-02-15 19:13 [#02050832]
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You must put into context his background. He was deeply spirtual, and as marlow said, this was from before even waking up in the morning had become a tired cliche' to our cynical generation of media on demand devos. His energy was in his message, comedy was just the medium.
He was the most insightful, talented and misunderstood comedian ever in my opinion. don't be put off by his (now) cult status. remember when he dies he was still relatively unpopular and only just starting to find success. he was always honest to himself and others, more than you can say for todays "so whats the deal with airline food" comedians of today.
bill hicks was bigger than comedy.
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-02-15 19:14 [#02050833]
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died^
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whoami
from Dallas/Ft. Worth (United States) on 2007-02-15 20:14 [#02050837]
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even more over rated is this douche...
Larry The Cable Guy
It's amazing that he's made his popularity out of talking like a hick and acting retarded. People eat it up...
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2007-02-16 00:04 [#02050854]
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Bill Hicks must have done something right because he was unknown in his home country. He upset the wrong people in America. Its pretty well known and scary to know that they silenced him so well. It also speaks volumes about the true free speech offered in the UK.
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zero-cool
on 2007-02-16 01:06 [#02050862]
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its comedy, or you know, something amusing, a few dirty words
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obara
from Utrecht on 2008-04-05 10:08 [#02191679]
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let's watch this classic together, in the lovely memory of BH:
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especially for the first minute
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staz
on 2008-04-05 10:11 [#02191681]
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Hicks was a great comedian/philosopher with great delivery. I can't really rate comedians as "best", since it depends on what mood I'm in. He surely had his own style, though, but I'm sure the drug references attracts a ton of stupid potheads championing him for all the wrong reasons.
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Advocate
on 2008-04-05 10:19 [#02191687]
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I've never been a a big fan of stand up comedy, but Bill Hicks is the best one I've heard. I certainly do not agree with all his opinions, but he expressed them all with passion. He didn't simply 'do a routine' imo. That's why I respect him, I think.
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Advocate
on 2008-04-05 10:21 [#02191688]
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HE WAS MTHRFCKNG REAL YA KNOW.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2008-04-05 10:40 [#02191695]
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Bill Hicks and Doug Stanhope are the only two Comedians i have truly loved listening to every word.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2008-04-05 11:35 [#02191705]
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the drug references are, still, a laugh. stupids will interpret anything towards their mindfield anyway
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-04-05 13:04 [#02191728]
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i respect him a lot and he's one of my top-3 stand-up comedians (at the moment I can only think of Carlin who's in the same league)... In my opinion his best two (video) performances are Sane Man and Revelations.
For a bit of insight into his life, check out his best friend Kevin Booth's biography of Bill Hacks called "Agent of Evolution", released not many years ago.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2008-04-05 13:06 [#02191729]
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"Hacks," if only ;)
for a real hack, you might check out a Dane Cook or a Denis Leary.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-04-05 13:41 [#02191739]
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What does Sam Kinison have to do with this? He was great btw.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-04-05 13:44 [#02191741]
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Hicks was ahead of his time in the cynical department.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2008-04-06 00:48 [#02191819]
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i would hereby like to take back my initial comment in this thread and apologize for those harsh words.
that said, i don't think he is overrated. I wish more people would listen to what he has to say because i think most of it really matters.
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on 2008-04-06 03:46 [#02191829]
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Doug Stanhope? I always thought I hated that guy, but then again, I was only familiar with that terrible Comedy Central show and infomercials. He was The Man's Comedian, if you will. Then I saw a few of his stand-up performances and was surprised. Not sure if he's on Bill Hicks' level, I'm not too familiar with either.
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yoyoyo
from cornwall on 2008-04-06 04:01 [#02191831]
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i am just watching some of his stuff for the first time on youtube. he is funny.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2008-04-07 12:10 [#02192115]
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I don't think he is overrated. IMO the best comedian. That is all I have to say on the matter.
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2008-04-07 12:17 [#02192116]
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The 'suck your own cock', routine still makes me laugh, regardless of how many times I hear it.
With very few exceptions comedy is of the time and is reflective of the mood of the moment. I think this is why most kids now wont 'get' Bill Hicks, he was from a very different time. The world has moved on. He has been ripped off and improved upon as is the way with comedy.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2008-04-07 12:40 [#02192123]
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Can't believe he's ragging on the iceman.
U_U
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-04-07 13:48 [#02192144]
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Yes indeed - I've enjoyed listening to Lenny Bruce and a lot of his material is entrenched in his time period.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2008-04-07 14:20 [#02192153]
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insightful, very, very funny man. not the prophet some make him out to be. i know it's oft said but still, fucking shit he died so young
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2008-04-07 15:21 [#02192169]
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yeah not quite on the same level, but still the bloke tells it the way it is.
* fonzie thumbs up to that *
oh and i forgot to add Richard Pryor to those two.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-04-07 15:29 [#02192175]
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he died from smoking really really young.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-04-07 15:32 [#02192177]
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I kinda feel cheated too as he was basically black balled and virtually unknown in his home country
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2008-04-07 15:58 [#02192184]
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that's what was so great about him, the stiffs in the US hated him as he went against the 'American Dream'
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2008-04-07 17:48 [#02192203]
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bill hicks was great.
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freqy
on 2008-04-07 18:57 [#02192219]
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watching some on youtube ...very good.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-04-07 20:08 [#02192232]
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Im so glad I quit smoking. Id don't have the luck of some of those people that can smoke until they are in their 80's. Looks like Bill didn't either
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freqy
on 2008-04-07 20:19 [#02192236]
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it aint how long you live its how you feel....man some people live till they 90 smoking ..and were the living dead for their remaining 50 years. i gave up i still crave now n then but it aint worth it.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-04-07 21:16 [#02192252]
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oh I know. It does terrible things to ya. Are you really in Monaco ?
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wimp
on 2008-04-08 02:42 [#02192289]
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He'll be remembered as one of the few real dudes to squeak a message out of the belly of the beast. True American comedian who should be remembered/discovered/brought to Western consciousness.
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freqy
on 2008-04-08 03:07 [#02192291]
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yeah i clean the toilets of the rich n famous.
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