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Why? Because, right now the AF has it easy. You don't get shot at unless you're a pilot. And there are plenty of things I can do and not be a pilot. I dont have good eyesight anyways, so no matter what, I won't be getting shot at. Second, the pay is great. I get a FAT salary, plus the best benifits/retirement plans, AND there are so many perks! Plus they will pay for me to go to college anywhere in the US for up to 6 years. Once I sign up, I can do my 6 weeks of training, then be on delayed entry pr whatever it is so I can go on to college for 4 years and get my associates degree in Education (I want to be a teacher). Then after those 4 years of living regular, I serve my 2 years traveling the world (for free) and being in the AF. Once that's over, I come back home and get to enjoy all the money I have as well as start my career as a teacher! I think I'll have life cut out easy for me if I do this. :] PLus it will help me build my character, and teach me self-control, something that I need a lot right now. Haha. :\ |
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Good-bye. Please don't blow up any British convoys. |
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End of the month, I'm registering. |
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ehh, good, that sounds like a flawless plan, i hope it worrks. fuck you've convinced me. i'm signing up at the end of the month, too. |
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Are you really going to? I just think it's a good way for me to sto being such a lazy bum. I've spent hours compared pros and cons, and the only negative thing I saw was being away from home/relationships for the time I am in training and serving. But I will be in other countries then too, doing fun stuff, so the negative aspect CAN be turned positive. |
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Ask alot more questions. :) The pay isn't that great, the college program will likely get you into a community college at best. The benefits come if you serve a full 20 years, otherwise, they cast you off after your enlistment runs out. If you're looking to build character, self-control, and discipline, join the Marine Corps. ;) I actually trained with some AF crewman down in Quantico at CSS, they were programmers/operators at the Pentagon. They had the easy life. Don;t expect discipline from the AF. |
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No fighting for me pal. Plus I'm just not built for it. :] But Communtity College is all I need. I can get a degree in Education there. And that income + the AF income would be enough for me living single, right? |
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joining the army is supporting the army is supporting bad things, so get the fuck outta here with that! |
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I don't want to join the Army, Navy, Marines, or National Gaurd...that could get me killed. |
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me me me!!! Shame on you young man! |
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I don't want to die! :D Haha. |
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I went into the DEP when I was 16, underweight (as in, they wouldn't accept me because I didn't eight enough), and about 5'7". I definately wasn't built to be a Marine. I went to my monthly meetings, and was given a diet; worked out, and ran often. I shipped out just after I turned 18, and during all of my training I was given "double rations", and they worked me extra hard. ;) I came out of bootcamp a good 40+ pounds heavier (muscle mind you). But, as they say, you have 2 choices in the Marine Corps, "you can be big, or you can be smart", heh. I scored well on my ASVAB, and was offered any job I chose. So after boot and combat training I went off to CSS, and got my certs in programming and operations. After that, once you're in the fleet, it's a regular job. There's alot of money you'll spend in any service that you don't neccesarily see up front... Dry cleaning bills alone can tax your paycheck... |
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We'll see. I'm just not the kind of guy that likes the "risk my life" part. Plus, I'm going to hate giving up my right as a "private citizen". |
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I'll give you some advice: scrap this moronic idea and go do something constructive with your time instead. |
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Well, that's why my advice to you is "Ask alot more questions". Your recruiter has an agenda, don't forget that, they'll tell you alot of bullshit, they need to meet a recruitment quota. That's not to say it's not a great opportunity to get a head start on life though. |
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I don't have the money, car or job to do anything else with. Literally $14.02 in the bank, no car, and I've aplied at about 30 places in the past month and a half and all of them have not even called me back once. |
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True. My grandfather was a recruiter in the Veitnam war. He knows "tricks" he can tell me to watch out for. Plus he did "top secret" stuff which he isn't allowed to talk about. ;) |
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Heh, go into any of the computer or communication fields, you'll get clearance too. Prepare for a very lengthy background search though. Everyone needed to be NS or higher where I worked. |
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Maybe you need to lower your standards of where you apply to a job? Anything is better than joining the army. If you're going to join anyway, at least to do something constructive like clearing mines. |
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Not that I think its such an awful idea, but I don't think you should do it just cause your feeling a bit lost |
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Id do it because nthing else is working. And Mastah, these places that have not hired me range from almost every fast food joint around to a car porter/detailer and even local supermarket work. :[ |
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yeah, the arrmy is bad and evil, trry and get a job worrking forr starbucks orr something. |
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"lesser of two evils." |
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Hahaha. Coffee isn't my thing. x) PLus is Mcdonalds won't hire me, Starbucks def. wont. |
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not rreally |
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McDonalds wont hire you?!?!? whats wrong with you? |
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McDonalds will hire you if there is a vacancy trust me |
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how incredibly naive. |
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another classiv swift_jams thread |
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i rather stick to the lazy bedroom musician characteristics, thank you very much |
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hah, yeah 6 months from now swift_jams is going to run away from the airforce with a half tank of gas and $6.50. Crying. |
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i am 100 % with drunken meister here. fuck that. what a stupid plan, your life cant be THAT worthless. the air force of all places, and you're not even going to fly a plane. at least be a man/adrenalin junkie and try to get into flying a figher jet. you don't seem that stupid, how about getting a decent education? science <3. |
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The air force is NOT the army. I grew up in an air force town and knew lots of people that were stationed there. It can be a great thing to do. Not because of the life in the air force. No no...most want out eventually cause the pay is awful, but you get to travel..meet people that are more intelligent than the ones in the other forces. Most of all though ,Once you are a vet you get lots of benefits like down payments and tuition. etc.. after you retire. Which can be only 5 years. Everyone I know is using the skills they trained for in the air force today. For me, it would be a moral decision. |
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i had a year in the norwegian air-force and it was a bloody waste of time |
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i'd say go for what you want, but definitely look into what you're going to be getting yourself into. from what little i've seen you do, you make some pretty rad artwork and music, why not consider something more constructive? |
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"The air force is NOT the army." qft. |
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why don't you just get a regular job like 90 million other people |
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In the end, the decision is yours... There is a very different view of the military from the 'outside'. Truth be told, once you pass your basic training and schooling, it's a job. Plain and simple. Do some research, ask some questions, talk to people that have been in the service, and get to know what you'd be getting involved in. |
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i'm signing up at the end of the month, too. |
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IDM - In Da Military |
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bbwuuaahahhaahahahahaha |
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lol |
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Die |
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it's not "just another job," it's a job in the army (bogala: army is basically short for armed forces, and if the air force isn't armed, I don't know what is). |
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All forms of employment in some way support this nation, directly or indirectly. Supporting the nation, supports its' policy, and supports it's military agenda as well. Capitalism dictates our policy. Any form of legal wage supports that capitalism. |
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Am I talking about the nation or capitalism? No, I'm talking about the army and supporting the army. Of course, you can say you'd be supporting the army through paying your taxes, etc etc, but you're freer to criticise the nations military actions if you aren't in the army.. isn't there some kind of rule or law stating that if you're in the army you can't criticise it? In any case, if you were to, your commanders most likely wouldn't go easy on you. I like how the new is perfectly honest about what you'll become when you join the army (a moron) but make it look like it's a good thing. Also, they say there's strong and then there's army strong (as a contrast), but when they describe the word strong, that's physical, moral and intellectual power, while army strong (which, by the way, in every defining sentence contains the word strength while obviously trying to define strength) isn't that, but all these other things describing a moron. Especially "the strength to obey." What the fuck is that? Does it take strength to obey now? |
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I see what you are saying about using Army as a universal term, but here in the usa, air force and army are worlds apart as far as the experience of being in either. |
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Yes, when you swear in to the military you give up the very freedoms you're swearing in to protect. You can be morally against a situation, but you are still required to do your duty. I suppose that's a moral quandry for each individual. I personally don't agree with our current administrations' plan of action in regards to foreign affairs. But that is not to say I don't think the military can provide some very good opportunities for people. Arguing semantics about a television commercial is just ridiculous, so I'll just ignore that. :P However, obeying implies discipline, which I do think takes strength. Since you are opposed to the military, let's apply that logic to something else, meditative practice of Buddhists, does that not take discipline as well? I don't think you can argue any point in regards to the military without directly relating it to nationalism, foreign policy, domestic policy, and capitalism. They're too influential on each other to ignore the connections. Back to why I responded to your post in the firts place... Yes, once you get into the fleet it's a regular job, you wake up, go to work for 8 hours, and go home. |
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Too true. There is a very big difference between the branches of the military. ...and I hold different degree of respect for each. :) |
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tell us how iran was. |
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