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3] - NO. There are/were better artists out there (48)
 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-02-07 16:56 [#02046758]
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who?


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2007-02-07 17:01 [#02046759]
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Michael Bolton


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-02-07 17:01 [#02046761]
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i hope 47 other people can give me different answers. im
curious.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2007-02-07 17:03 [#02046762]
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34 people found the question too hard Tolst, I wouldn't
worry about it.


 

offline Indeksical from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-07 17:03 [#02046764]
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cheephax.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-02-07 17:07 [#02046768]
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hah..xltronic

i would love to hear what artists people here rate highly
though..for real peoples!


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-07 17:09 [#02046770]
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stravinsky


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-02-07 17:11 [#02046772]
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says electronic..i thought this wouldn't go anywhere..oh
well


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-02-07 17:13 [#02046774]
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Vince DiCola is signifigantly better than Dick James


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-07 17:27 [#02046783]
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I prefer a lot of people over Dicky, I liked it better "back
in the day" when he was the weirder end of a wider techno
spectrum of artists, now he's just deified on his own it's
pretty boring. It's not his fault. Entirely.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-02-07 17:30 [#02046790]
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i prefer my mother too, but the poll is about electronic
artists..jav


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-07 17:32 [#02046792]
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Fucking hell, alright I prefer Kirk Degiorgio over Aphex
Twin, pound for pound, happy?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-02-07 17:35 [#02046798]
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thank you.


 

offline Flappypants on 2007-02-07 18:30 [#02046841]
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There are lots. Iannis Xenakis, to name one.


 

offline sirmailbox from chicago area (United States) on 2007-02-08 07:08 [#02047016]
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Didn't xenakis just make a bunch of ugly machine noises and
completely disharmonious piano pieces? Heh I know he
deserves some credit because he was doing some really out
there stuff a long time before most people, but the
"originality" factor only goes so far for me. Shitting in a
rabbit's mouth is original but it's still shit in a rabbit's
mouth. Then again maybe you like him for entirely different
reasons. I guess the point is, why do you like that guy,
flappy? And what would you recommend by him?


 

offline sirmailbox from chicago area (United States) on 2007-02-08 07:10 [#02047017]
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Oh, and no, I can't think of any artists better than Aphex.
Which is not to say I think he's anywhere close to perfect.
He's obviously self indulgent from time to time, and some of
his music is unbridled shit. But I can't think of an artist
who has more A+ material.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-08 07:27 [#02047022]
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jean michel jarre ? seriously i hate his music but i guess
he wins with popularity


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-08 07:27 [#02047023]
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mike oldfield ? dito


 

offline zero-cool on 2007-02-08 07:33 [#02047024]
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boc


 

offline big from lsg on 2007-02-08 07:36 [#02047025]
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penis


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2007-02-08 13:39 [#02047313]
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i'm not sure that Xenakis is the aural equivalent of having
someone shit in a rabbit's mouth (would that technically be
a Hot Carl?)

if you're looking for Xenakis recs, Legende d'Eer is
definitely the first thing that comes to mind. and yes it is
discordant, but it's also very very exacting. sort of
similar to aphex in that regard maybe. i think i answered
this poll and i'm sure i put 3, but i couldn't really say
offhand who i think is better than aphex... a lot of people
in their way? his way is really just one among many. in
terms of volume (number of releases that i like a lot), he
probably outstrips a lot of artists in my mind, but his high
points are necessarily higher than those of Christoph
Heemann, for example... Eliane Radigue maybe? Xenakis is a
good answer... at this point it would be disingenuous for me
to not mention Gunter Muller, and Keith Rowe, both of whom
have blown my mind many times in many different
combinations... Zoviet France? Martin Rev within and beyond
Suicide perhaps. David Daniell. Joe Colley. Jan Jelinek.
Jason Lescalleet. Brian Eno (tough call... a lot of his pure
electronic work is not so mindbogglingly amazing). certainly
Aphex doesn't have a monopoly on the dance floor either, but
it's more difficult to pick out people who are relatively
consistent and have longevity...

by which i mean penis


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2007-02-08 13:45 [#02047323]
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Yuzo Koshiro's Streets of Rage ish


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2007-02-08 13:52 [#02047335]
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Just went through and compiled a list of artists I like more
than Afx at the moment. Not a comprehensive list by any
means.

Tangerine Dream
BOC
Autechre
Phonecia
Luke Vibert
Akufen
Einoma
Richard Devine
Amon Tobin
RJD2
Lemon Jelly
Daft Punk


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-08 13:56 [#02047340]
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my god thats 80 % of my actual playlist


 

offline uzim on 2007-02-08 17:06 [#02047548]
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for me there is no "best electronic musician of all time",
and that's for the better. i have several favourites,
including aphex twin, orbital, bola, the chemical brothers,
bernhard günter, coil, underworld, matmos, etc... and while
it's true that aphex twin has made great albums, possibly in
a wider variety of genres than any other electronic musician
i know, i don't feel that any of them is "above" the
others. maybe one is for the "technical aspects" of their
music but i don't know anything about that. maybe aphex twin
(since we're talking about him) would be if i had discovered
him at another time, maybe i know his music too much by now,
having listened to it too much some years ago and not enough
lately. but the way i feel now is that there are so many
different genres of electronic music that cannot really be
compared, and with that and my tastes changing all the time
and me still discovering other artists, having to
elect just one artist as the best one would be stupid.

"It's kind of like a crazy contest between an orange and
a spaceship and a potted plant and a spoon which one do you
like better?”



 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-08 20:43 [#02047635]
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Spaceship.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-08 21:17 [#02047650]
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The are (as opposed to were) part is obviously correct. Oh
look I found a better artist just this second; myself when I
farted.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-02-08 21:41 [#02047654]
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AE


 

offline Flappypants on 2007-02-09 11:23 [#02047899]
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You seem to have a problem with Xenakis' music because it is
atonal and discordant, as you put it 'ugly' and
'disharmonious'. His music is based on mathematical concepts
like probability, group theory, game theory, to name a few.
It's not about melody and harmony (although some of his
pieces have a subtle beauty to them–listen to
Orient-Occident) so much as it is about relationships and
patterns in the musical structures.

The question was about electronic musicians in particular.
In my opinion, a good composer of electronic music should
take advantage of their medium and do things that are not
possible with accoustic instruments. Iannis Xenakis succeeds
at that quite well, in my opinion, by using electronics to
achieve different timbre, for example. In general, I think
Xenakis is important because he makes interesting and
(arguably) listenable music with very non-standard
compositional techniques.

In terms of what I recommend, I would suggest listening to
the aforementioned disc Electronic Music, particularly
Orient-Occident, Concret PH, and S.709. Also I recommend the
disc Xenakis: Music for Strings, particularly the pieces
Aroura and Analogique A+B, although it's not entirely
electronic.

On a sidenote, I have to agree with DeadEight on Brian Eno.
His electronic stuff is impressive...completely blows
Selected Ambient Works 2 out of the water. If anyone hasn't
noticed, I'm actually not a big Aphex Twin fan. :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-02-09 11:51 [#02047929]
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i appreciate both, xenakis and eno, but i enjoy aphex the
most. also, aphex is doing a completly different thing. he
bridges the gap between pop and xennakis.



 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2007-02-09 11:53 [#02047930]
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for me, aphex is miles away from every other artist out
there...but im a fucking electronics snerdob...


 

offline Sano on 2007-02-09 15:04 [#02048008]
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Giorgio Moroder.


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2007-02-09 15:09 [#02048011]
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the are/were better artists out there!!! but than what? i
think all artists who have this artistness about them gotta
do "their thing"... and whatever comes out. its good enough
for me!!! do your thing!!!


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2007-02-09 18:26 [#02048108]
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i agree that he's doing a completely different thing, i
don't agree that the thing he is doing is better. i would
even say that i know how tempting it would be to say that
what he is doing is better, because as you describe his
fusion of pop with more jarring stuff is insanely satisfying
on so many levels... i doubt i listen to Xenakis, for
example, even a tenth as many times as i listen to Aphex...
but there's something precious in the rare event that is
connecting with a prickly figure like Xenakis (among a great
many others of course).


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2007-02-09 18:35 [#02048115]
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i know what you mean..also, how can one say what's better in
music..the question is kind of silly..

the thing is to me aphex does what xenakis is doing except
it's more pleasant to my ears..and i agree it's very nice to
hear xenakis every now and then.


 

offline entelechy from Brisbane (Australia) on 2007-02-09 20:48 [#02048160]
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Autechre, without a doubt


 

offline thatne from United States on 2007-02-09 21:24 [#02048166]
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early era autechre and squarepusher.


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2007-02-10 01:52 [#02048200]
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FSOL were doing some pretty cool stuff back in the day,
definitely a contender in my mind.



 

offline nacmat on 2007-02-10 02:49 [#02048214]
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finally I understand the question, I was browsing the polls
and there it was... so this is about the aphex poll

welll, he is the best

but he is losing diference thats true


 

offline Flappypants on 2007-02-10 12:16 [#02048349]
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How is Aphex Twin doing what Xenakis is doing? I don't see
any significant musical similarities between the two.


 


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