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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 06:27 [#02044133]
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Ok, I think I may have mentioned this before, but I can't remember what people thought of it.
The basic idea is one single acoustic instrument several times: you play with yourself (naughty boy). Each line recorded should be a different melody (though notes may, of course, overlap at times), and you should have at least three lines (though not necessarily all the time). Percussive elements needn't be from this one instrument, but it'd make it all a bit more interesting.
Also, since some or most of us don't necessarily have real acoustic instruments, you're allowed to use synths with the restriction that it sounds like or is supposed to sound like an acoustic instrument.
To illustrate: I did a track for three pianos a while back Politifullmektig, which, if it were to be played live, would require three piano players on three different pianos. I'm also working on another one, but it's got more of a.. rough feel to it, and I don't know what it'll turn out like in the end.
Anyone up for it?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-02-03 06:31 [#02044137]
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i hate to be rude but .. every note ON THE BEAT. it's like jazz never happened.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 06:35 [#02044139]
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?
This one is out of sync because it's originally one long take without metronome that I just cut together after... I didn't remember exactly what I'd played (it's a loooong take), so I didn't bother re-recording each line.. mostly because I liked the feel it got.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 06:40 [#02044142]
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anyway, the point isn't that song, but rather if people are up for it. I'd love to hear some more compositions with the same idea, and the more diverse the instruments, the better! Maybe I should do one with didgeridoo?
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zero-cool
on 2007-02-03 06:57 [#02044146]
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so what? the same intrument, 3 different players? at the same time? overlaping melodies? on the same intruments? 3 differrent players?b *head explodes*
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 07:01 [#02044147]
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quickly! record it!
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cx
from Norway on 2007-02-03 07:09 [#02044149]
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so we're only allowed to use one vst, but 3 different melodies on top of eachother? or 3 different instances of the vst?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 07:19 [#02044151]
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yes, but only if the vst sounds like an acoustical instrument, and it would be better if you actually had an acoustical instrument. Your voice is a good one.
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cx
from Norway on 2007-02-03 08:05 [#02044162]
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i have no recording equipment unfortunately.. i'll have to use a piano vsti.. will post later today.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 13:28 [#02044354]
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*ump
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 13:36 [#02044360]
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I'd participate but I have no fucking clue what to do.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 13:38 [#02044361]
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record yourself reading three different speeches, add 1 to 2 to 3.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 13:42 [#02044365]
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I'm thinking of 'line' as one horizontal tracker-like row. I guess you mean a verticle line such as one wav file played to its entireinimininity.
So basically have 3 simultaneous melodies? Any rules regarding how similar the melodies are? same tempo, notes, note placement.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 13:45 [#02044367]
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At least three simultaneous different melodies at some point in the track. Acoustic instrument or at least something that mimics one such. The rest is up to you, dear Noll.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 13:55 [#02044377]
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That's nothing more than polyphony, as done on just about any piece of music. But I will make something.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 14:03 [#02044380]
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the restriction is one single instrument
guitars aside, there aren't many pieces for only one instrument, and, basically, only one player (just at different times) around. Have you ever heard a song for 8 same-tuned harmonicas with a different melody to each?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 14:08 [#02044382]
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Can you cheat the sameness by having each seperate melody a different octave?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 14:09 [#02044383]
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Aren't you just talking about a three-part invention, as Bach wrote? Or even a three-part fugue?
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funkadil
from United States on 2007-02-03 14:19 [#02044387]
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This isn't really that great of an idea to be honest. In fact it sounds like a dumbed down version of a lot of old ideas.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 14:45 [#02044393]
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I have no idea + not necessarily.
I'd really like it if people used as many melodies as possible at the same time without it getting out of hand: three is the minimum.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 14:47 [#02044394]
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I'm gonna use my ultra phasing techniques + mustard.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 14:47 [#02044396]
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Bach once wrote a fugue for eight 'voices'. That's getting to serious headfuck territory.
Anyway, I'll make a piece featuring several intertwined melodies on one 'acoustic' instrument (ie a vst emulation of one) :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 14:47 [#02044397]
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I would be very pleased if the song was made out of three layers of mustard and nothing else.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 14:49 [#02044398]
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eight different voices performed on the same instrument?
the most I could find the last time was seven pianos, which I thought was awesome considering the size of a piano, plus some of the music was truly awesome.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 14:51 [#02044400]
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Also, I'd like people to.. well, I wouldn't really like you to experiment in that "do something that sounds weird" way, but rather in that "you are free to do whatever you want within the limitations" way. In other words, as long as it's the same instrument and three times, do anything you feel like.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 14:53 [#02044404]
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..and I'm looking forward to hearing yours: your music usually makes me go "mmmmmmm, feel good."
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 14:54 [#02044405]
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sometimes
just some times
I masturbate to your music
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 14:54 [#02044406]
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sssshhhhh!!1
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 15:01 [#02044413]
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haha thank you very much - I'm flattered :D
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-02-03 15:07 [#02044415]
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sounds a bit pretentious...
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-02-03 15:18 [#02044419]
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your asshole is pretentious
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cx
from Norway on 2007-02-03 15:51 [#02044437]
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here's mine
LAZY_TITLE
nothing fancy atm..
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 15:57 [#02044439]
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Drunken Mastahs Bad Idea Submission
= 4 chords repeated over and over (each cord has 3 notes, ie. there are 3 seperate melodies all playing at exactly the same time intervals) Then I took each seperate melody and made more intricate seperately, then played all simultaneously.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 16:01 [#02044440]
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i shlikit
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cx
from Norway on 2007-02-03 16:02 [#02044441]
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heh odd track w M w.. getting autechre vibes..
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 16:09 [#02044443]
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For it to be pretentious I'd have to claim some sort of excellence, especially one the idea isn't worthy of, but I'm just saying that I'm interested in hearing what people make of it.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 16:11 [#02044445]
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sounds nice! It could somehow end up in the category "cute," as far as that applies to music.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 16:12 [#02044446]
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hahaha! awesomeness from noll!
part of it makes me think of bluegrass or country or something for a second.
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cx
from Norway on 2007-02-03 16:25 [#02044458]
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hehe aye.. thanks :)
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 16:53 [#02044484]
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Why is your reflection upside down in the concave area of a spoon. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE MAN!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-02-03 16:58 [#02044489]
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I have pondered this question many a time, dear Noll, and I can only tell you what I know from rigorous research:
It's magic!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 18:03 [#02044516]
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Drunken Bla Bla 2nd Suck
This is simultaneous melodies but the first goes only on rows 0,4,8 etc, the 2nd on 1,5,9,etc, etc so the individual notes never play at the same time. Plus I made it suck as a bonus and not really even use the rule of whatever I just said or something.
And stuff.
Or something.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 18:10 [#02044520]
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Universe: uh oh, I forgot to program what would happen to light reflecting off a concave area of a spoon... um, I'll just make it upside down.. yeah, that'll work I guess. (before that bug was fixed, you would see a swirling purple and black dimension hole. That's how jesus got HIS power)
Maybe if you shine a rainbow off the concave area of a spoon the dimension hole can be opened up again somehow. Most likely.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 18:14 [#02044522]
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OK, I knocked out a Three-Part Invention in A minor, although it ends "a piacere", ie on the major chord.
Hope you enjoy it, it was fun to compose!
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2007-02-03 18:16 [#02044524]
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I do this alot with my music currently, but then I add a bunch of stuff over it...usually with guitars and pianos, really tough writing the main melody line, but writing the 2 other accompaniments usually is quicker
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 18:17 [#02044526]
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creative/weird/good
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-03 18:22 [#02044530]
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It's damn excellent now. The slight weirdness of the first listen is gone.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 18:23 [#02044531]
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CX: Pretty awesome - reminds me a bit of Eno's Deep Blue Day for the first half: quite relaxing :)
w M w : Bad Idea Submission was the dope: like little explosions scattered upon a rolling 8-bit hillside; very neat. 2nd Suck has that clavichord kind of sound; I preferred the first one, although I like the way this one finishes :D
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cx
from Norway on 2007-02-03 18:28 [#02044533]
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marlowe cheers :)
yours is good i liked the ending a lot too.. it's slightly weird yeah, sounds like classical guitar mixed with an rpg soundtrack somewhat if that makes any sense.. :P
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-02-03 18:31 [#02044537]
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Yeah, I was pretty pleased with the ending too :D I had ended it after the first "strummed" chord (B7), but thought, no, it's too short, so I extended it and added the coda with the double-syncopated melody in treble and bass, and the little flourish at the end really lends it a baroque feeling!
About the RPG soundtrack, all the music I make seems to be tinged with some kind of video game atmosphere/sound! And the irony is, I hardly ever play video games! :D
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