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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-01-12 11:07 [#02030990]
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-01-12 11:07 [#02030991]
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90% of it is still pretty fucking dire though.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-01-12 11:13 [#02030997]
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Oh, and some dubstep track I never finished (which doesn't even sound like dubstep but does have a lot of bassssssss)
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2007-01-12 11:37 [#02031008]
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nice bit of information on that clip, seen it before tho, lots of heavy tunes in it.
cute track :)
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big
from lsg on 2007-01-12 17:43 [#02031156]
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this is real buck!!!
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-01-12 17:58 [#02031171]
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WTF?! i mean, yeah i like the music, it's great but... SHIT! i know they're speaking english and all, godamn, just take the extra second to fuckin pronounce an actual word!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-12 18:11 [#02031187]
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am i the only person in the world who doesnt like dubstep?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-12 18:11 [#02031188]
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why is it that British people always seems to pronounce "th" as "f"... "I'm going frough that tunnel!"
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2007-01-12 18:13 [#02031190]
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afro-americans do it as well
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-01-12 18:15 [#02031195]
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i like about 1 %.
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big
from lsg on 2007-01-12 18:45 [#02031223]
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they're from the ghetto
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-01-13 01:00 [#02031376]
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Some dubstep is really boring. I will admit.
but its already branching out into many different areas wich promotes further experimentations of the main dubstep artists..
I prefer the harder hitting dubstep or "Hardasfuckstep" Vex'd & Milanese have it going in that area... The beats are really big and thrashy the bass isnt too far off..
I like that Drop the Lime has been dabbeling with the genera...
I love his earlier breakcore stuff (Sweet Desire, Surrender to the Sound etc etc )
I'm waiting for Squarepusher or Aphex to touch it... You know its coming...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-01-13 04:18 [#02031408]
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"I'm waiting for Squarepusher or Aphex to touch it... You know its coming..."
i hope not. with all my heart. can't see either of them do this shit.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 05:29 [#02031427]
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Brisk: It's not bad at all, but I'd describe that as more traditional UK garage than dubstep.
Babaouo: I think Aphex/Squarepusher's take on the genre would be interesting, but I'm not sure they'd be able to leave the track repetative enough. I can see there being a few good bars here and there, but it degenerating into a DSP wankfest, or drum programming show-offery in places and ruining the mood.
Funkmaster: It's Sarf Londoners that do that, mainly.
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big
from lsg on 2007-01-13 05:44 [#02031435]
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aphex and squarepusher make intelligent listening music dubstep producers make dance music
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 05:47 [#02031436]
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Videos
Brizzle Dubstep BBC's Documentary Kode 9 - 9 Samurai (scroll down to the black and white picture of the surgeon's mask and click play)
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-13 05:50 [#02031437]
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YAWNNNN
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 05:53 [#02031439]
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Well, I doubt RDJ exactly hates the stuff. He put out Grime 2 on Rephlex, which despite the name is actually a dubstep album.
As Babaouo says, part of whats so exciting about it is that for such a young sound there are so many sub genres of it already and a very broad sound palette. I don't know anyone who likes all the sub genres of it, but there's usually one you'll like. Some of it is almost like techno, some of it is almost llike dub, others like "world music", some is similar to garage, etc. I think the "Kornstep" (joking term) stuff that uses distorted guitars sounds shit and I haven't found a single track in this style I like. It'd be a real shame for someone to hear 2-3 tracks of that and write off the whole genre though as the may well love the more technoish tracks.
Big:
Dubstep is "Intelligent Grime" ;-P
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-01-13 05:57 [#02031440]
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To be fair, i'm enjoying it more than I did. But I really don't think I could spend a full night at FWD or something. Variety is key and I don't think theres enough radically different sub-genres in dubstep just yet.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-01-13 05:58 [#02031441]
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When 2step or 8-bar first came out, the pikeys on radio said the same things btw. "Its gonna take over the world" and whats not, but its still nowhere near commercial-sounding enough to be anymore than an underground thing. And I spose thats the way most producers would want to keep it.
Has there been any major crossover successes with dubstep yet?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-01-13 06:09 [#02031444]
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overal it's just dull music..i don't think rdj or jenkinson would be particulary interested in it..i think they'd get bored quickly. i mean, both of them can sure do simple stuff, it's the sound that is dull. and im sure they don't mind dubstep to listen to, but doing it is a different thing maybe.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 06:39 [#02031456]
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Well, if you've listened to a fair bit and still don't like it, that's fair enough.
I think some people write it off as dull because it's sparse and (compared to IDM) usually fairly simple, but the same criticisms could be levelled at ambient. I think if RDJ could get into a SAW1 sort of mindset and do a very "safe"/stadard dubstep release it'd be a very good one. I imagine if he tried to do a genre-pushing one it'd wind up being like a 2 step drukqs/analord and not really feel like dubstep.
Still, it's music, there's not much point arguing over taste ;)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-01-13 06:51 [#02031458]
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dunno, i like ambient/drone music a lot, but can't take much dubstep. i also don't like what is known as 'complex' idm around here. if richard is going to do dubstep as we know it im going to cry.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 07:01 [#02031460]
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I completely agree about it "taking over the world". Yes, it'll (and already has been) used in a few films, it also has some "crossover" hits. Still, these are relative; the nature of the crossover is limited. It's things like coffee table musos having Various Production's album and less mainstream films using it in the score. It's not "blown up" (and won't ever, IMO) to the extent that the 9 Samurai video I posted will be shown regularly on MTV Base, or that Burial's album will be in the album top ten, etc.
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big
from lsg on 2007-01-13 07:07 [#02031464]
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if you think dubstep is boring you could still play it as excellent background music i think
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 07:11 [#02031467]
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I don't think Aphex actually would do a "dubstep as we know it" type release. I imagine he'd want to be seen as a pioneer, rather than follower. I just think that if he did, he could do it very well (to my ears, the reverb on some of the drukqs tracks and the bounce of bass in Bwoon Dub show he could do it).
I don't really like "complex for the sake of it" IDM either. Sure, I like unusual sounds and music, but I get the impression that a lot of what we hear is the self indulgent "cock-rock guitar solo" playing of electronic instruments. Far more about technical showing off than making something that sounds good. It's not even like it's particularly original or difficult to do these days; anyone can put a half dozen tempo synched (but at different rates) LFOs controlling different parameters of sounds.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 07:14 [#02031469]
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I agree: I think Scarecrow's "Taken" would make excellent background fight music for a trashy Jeepers Creepers film. Similarly the very sparse tracks like Pinch's Qawwali could be used as radio bedding/car adverts without sounding too out of place (not saying I'd like to see that happen, mind).
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-01-13 07:21 [#02031475]
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I don't think dubstep would be used in TV ads, simply because not everyone has the setup to handle those basslines.
Ever tried listening to dubstep on laptop speakers? Ouch.
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wizards teeth
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-13 07:27 [#02031480]
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dub step = drum and bass for pensioners
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-01-13 07:31 [#02031482]
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hah very true :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 07:38 [#02031487]
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Yes, it's gash. Maybe adverts shown in cinemas?
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big
from lsg on 2007-01-13 07:45 [#02031494]
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i have heard the already classic nine samurai on a documentary (as creepy music, on images of a machine making medicin or something similar)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 07:50 [#02031500]
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Awesome! I take it was just the instrumental brass band (I always think it sounds like a New Orleans funeral) bit of the track, rather than with the vocals?
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big
from lsg on 2007-01-13 07:53 [#02031503]
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yea, i wonder what it's from, it sounds to me like a mexican band in a western
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big
from lsg on 2007-01-13 07:55 [#02031505]
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i want to say: dj distance - traffic, it's r40f's favorite track of last year, or one of his favs
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2007-01-13 11:10 [#02031614]
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Dubstep is a load of old poo. I guess the kids love it cos with those big bad boy subs it makes their guts shake around.
It always reminds me of a walking stick remix of something alright.
I love dub, I love techstep, but dubstep is like a gentic anomaly.
It always used to make me laugh when my (now defunct) local vinyl shop had guys in there going "yes mate this is heavy" to some dubstep.
Maybe I'm getting old... It's just sooooo boring though, but it's underground so it well cool, init. This is not going out music. I would be annoyed if a dancefloor had this playing all night, would be alright for a half hour tops at the beginning...
Some music is repetative yet still captivates your attention, dubstep is like a bastard child of copy and paste at half tempo with no beat or rhythm.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-01-13 11:19 [#02031617]
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god im glad im not the only one feeling like that.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-13 11:27 [#02031620]
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i like the digital mystikz stuff-and loefahs works got some fucking top sample in it (check out 'goat stare') but that mark one album on planet my though, what the fuck was all that about??!!! and the vex'd stuff pah!. gets pretty samey.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 11:28 [#02031621]
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looks like i'm to fat and have to dark skin to make dubstep
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-13 11:35 [#02031624]
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i only like digital mystikz really
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-01-13 13:36 [#02031686]
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Havent read all the posts yet but will..
I think Aphex & Pusher will make tracks laced with dubstep here and there. Some Dubstep really isnt that repetative.
Aphex blends in and out of different drum kits breaks and drum & Bass style beats. This could be done with dubstep as well. deep down you know it..
sorry for the halfassed response but I am in a rush.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 17:23 [#02031810]
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oh look in fact i'm not so bad at it.
dubstep
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 17:24 [#02031811]
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omg i forgot the bass !
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 17:30 [#02031813]
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You're right, it's quite good (although it's too repetative IMO). I'd be happy to remix this if you're up for it?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 17:41 [#02031824]
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yup you can make whatever you want because floops has been a bit again and after the exportation of the track it closed itself not saving the changes - means what you hear is the only copy
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 17:46 [#02031826]
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another one with real bass this time LAZY_TITLE
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 17:47 [#02031827]
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Ah, balls. I've only once managed to motivate myself to do a remix with the whole track as the source material and I hated doing that. Oh well, let me know if you want to collaborate on any other dubstep. :)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 18:08 [#02031832]
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send me some of your stuff - why not ! i got the original korg legacy station - the ms-20 plugin is just to awesome for every kind of those dubstep booty bass thingies. jhj has some of it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 18:13 [#02031833]
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Cool, shall do. Want to send me an email (see my profile) and I'll reply to it with a couple of self contained .flps?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 18:15 [#02031835]
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matrigs@wp.pl
LAZY_TITLE jhj remastered - ms-20 gives the botton and on top a bit of absynth fm synthesis
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