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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 18:17 [#02031838]
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but beware that i don't have in mind making such stricte dubstep tracks consisting just of a bassdrum, ass-slaping snare and some sine bass :P
those two samples above should explain what my definition of it is.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 18:19 [#02031839]
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and another sadistic interpretation of this genre LAZY_TITLE
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-13 18:21 [#02031840]
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oh and please don't be mad if i won't reply like this week - i have a gig supporting murcof next saturday and i have to get goind with my set for it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 18:27 [#02031841]
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Oh no worries, I am v. busy at the minute too. I'm also pretty shoddy with tight deadlines. :s :)
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edgey
from New York (United States) on 2007-01-13 18:28 [#02031842]
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sooo..
ummm...
scorn then.. right?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-13 20:13 [#02031860]
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You've got mail with 4 tracks, boyyyyyyeeee.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-14 05:58 [#02031987]
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check ur mail dooood
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-14 08:22 [#02032007]
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You too, good work. *thumbs up*
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Cnut
from the future on 2007-01-14 13:09 [#02032201]
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boring shit black music for boring shit white people
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-14 13:54 [#02032231]
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See, everyone says Dubstep is white people doing grime, but there are actually loads of black people doing it-definately a greater proportion than their respective make up of the population (not that this should affect your view of the music anyway).
On the subject of segregating minorities, are there any female dubstep producers at all? All I've seen are a couple of female grime mcs occassionally collaborating with dubstep producers.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-14 17:16 [#02032382]
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chk mail dood
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Spreading Phlox
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-14 19:00 [#02032420]
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Luke Envoy - Honour Kill Digital Mystikz - Ant-War Dub Pinch - Qawwali VIP Skream - Bahl Fwd, Rutten Boxcutter - Hyloz, Grub, Sunshine VIP Burial - Distant Lights Distance - Traffic, Empire Armour - Iron Man
Off the top of my head awesome tracks
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-01-14 19:21 [#02032436]
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i have no fucking idea what 'dubstep' is,
what does it sound like?
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Spreading Phlox
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-14 19:47 [#02032454]
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DL this mix..its the best one i can find
http://geroyche.c8.com/geroyche-disciples_of_bass.mp3
01 blackdown - crackle blues (burial remix) [keysound 002] 02 pinch - qawwali [planet µ ziq133] 03 various production - don't ask [xl lp 204] 04 soundproof productions - marv [boka 007] 05 qualifide feat jason h. - badman revisted (skream remix) [qualifide 019]
06 s.n.o. - back yard dub [earwax 001] 07 digital mystikz - anti war dub [dmz 007] 08 luke envoy - honour kill [hotflush 012] 09 toasty - the knowledge (vex'd remix) [hotflush remix 001]
10 skream - lightning [tempa 016] 11 n-type - way of the dub [dub police 002] 12 blackmass plastics - runnit [rag & bone 011] 13 emalkay - road git [morphic sounds 002] 14 wasteland - untitled (b2) [transparent 004] 15 loefah - rufage [dmz 009] 16 vex'd - bombardment of saturn [planet µ ziq131] 17 skream - i (loefah remix) [tempa 017] 18 digital mystikz - earth a run red [soul jazz 135] 19 omen - rebellion [tectonic 005] 20 l-wiz - strength [dub police 004] 21 slaughter mob - born behind the cow [halo beats 002] 22 scuba - twista [hotflush 013] 23 distance - traffic [planet µ ziq148] 24 digital mystikz - ancient memories (skream remix) [dmz 008]
25 burial - night train [hyperdub 001] 26 benga & walsh - spooksville [immerse 001] 27 skream - merky [southside dubstars 007] 28 elemental - sparkle [hotflush 011] 29 scuba - dream [scuba 003]
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 10:04 [#02032745]
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Although I'd hate to see dubstep go through a wanky "real instruments" phase like DnB did for a while, I found this is quite interesting.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-15 11:19 [#02032774]
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got that second track fella ?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 11:24 [#02032778]
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Yep! Liking it. I agree I should sort that first track so it's "finished" bar mastering first before going off onto that, or else we'll end up with half a dozen unfinished tracks. Did you get my email about sending a copy of the first one with the synthline as data rather than a .wav (as I have the neccessary)? I was just waiting on that before I start editing it heavily. I'm thinking I might do a minute or so of slower, more laid back intro, that breaks down into what we have so far.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-01-15 11:52 [#02032784]
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i'll do that tonight - in a hour or so i'll send the track like flp with the synth files.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-15 12:02 [#02032788]
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Excellent. BTW my gf came into the room when I was playing it last night and started dancing to it. She asked who it was and was amazed when I said it was us. :D
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-01-19 03:13 [#02034320]
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Really enjoying the kode9 & spaceape album lately, but was surprised to find that 9 samurai doesn't have spaceape like the music viddy did. I know those lyrics are in portal and addiction but it's not the same. Is there anywhere I can find the music video edit?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-19 03:26 [#02034331]
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I'm not sure the music video version is available on any proper release. Personally, I vastly prefer the original version. Spaceape isn't bad, but this is one track that works better without him.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-01-19 03:37 [#02034335]
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I saw the music video you posted earlier, then grabbed the album. So I guess my opinion on this is just a matter of being amazed by the first version. Still a great track without spaceape.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-19 03:41 [#02034338]
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Glad you liked it. Check out Burial's album (Burial) if you've not done so already- even better than the Kode 9 one IMO.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-01-19 03:44 [#02034340]
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Oh I've done so months ago. Best album of 2006. :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-02-22 04:55 [#02053592]
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What do you lot reckon of DJ Distance's album - My Demons?
Originally I was rather unimpressed. I didn't think there were really enough ideas there to warrant a few album (each track didn't really have enough variation, I'd of liked to seen it condensed down into an EP of stronger material).
With subsequent listens though, I enjoy it much more. This is quite unusual with dubstep for me, Burial excepted, I like most stuff that I end up liking, on the first listen. I can't really work out why as there's nothing massively complex in most of the tracks that it took me time to get my head round. The first disc I stronger IMO, good solid tracks like My demons, Night Vision and weigh down, I only really rate Mistral off the second one.
My main criticism would still be that it's too sparse. Now, I know done right, sparse dubstep (even by dubstep's standards) can be amazing: Qawwali, Voodoo, etc. This just sounds like it wants to have more going on in a few places though. I think some more instances of faster cluttered hihats in places would work well. I was playing around mixing it earlier and it worked well with a vocal loop from a JuJu track, so I might look at that side of things a bit more too.
I still think I Taipan/Fallen is his strongest work and I don't think he's deserving of the "Photek of Dubstep" title that I see bandied about, but I do like the album now. Anyway, if you listened once and deleted it, it might be worth a second listen. If you've not heard it, but are familiar with his previous work, it's nearer cyclops/traffic than earlier stuff, but still quite a new sound for him.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-02-22 10:36 [#02053725]
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The Skream album took ages to grow on me (and there's still shitloads of filler on there which is quite unlistenable in places), but you simply cannot deny the awesomeness that is "Stagger". Wicked chooooooon, with the slinkiest basslines i've heard in some time. I like "Summer Dreams" too, though I bet that one pisses of the purist dubstep elitests.
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thodob
from Bergen (Norway) on 2007-02-22 11:23 [#02053745]
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a quite cool dubstep mix I found on the web:
Tracklisting:
DJ Gena
L-Wiz - Sub [Redvolume] Coki - Mood Dub [DMZ] Juju - Tribute [Narco.Hz] MRK1 - Grit [Planet Mu] (white) - Ghetto Story Juju - Red Up [Narco.Hz] Markomen - Dubstep Pressure [Unreleased] Markomen - Numberz Dub [Unreleased] Soundbox - Fatty Boom Batty [Forthcoming Virus B-23] Ekaj- Scrye [Unreleased]
Deadman DJ
Soundbox - Tub Girl [Virus B-23] Tyrant & Sloppy Jackson - Bull War [Kursed Recordings] Tes La Rok - Murdah Dub [Unreleased] Distance - Fractured [Planet Mu] Danny Weed - Kick Off [Dump Valve] Darqwan - Last of Nine [Texture] S.N.O - Bring Da Beat [Terrain] Geeneus - Darkboy [Soulja] Digital Mystikz - Blue Notez [DMZ] Wonder - Chi Flute [Dump Valve]
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thodob
from Bergen (Norway) on 2007-02-22 11:25 [#02053748]
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wtf, the link dissapeared...
DjGena vs deadman dj
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diablo
on 2007-03-22 03:57 [#02064897]
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There are loads of sets to download from http://ilovefwd.blogspot.com/
The Kode 9 one in particular is good: KODE 9 - 15.06.2006
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-03-22 11:53 [#02065001]
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you guys should check out Kush Arora's shit, its a fusion of indian real dub and dubstep with live instrumentation.
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michelnicholas
from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-22 15:57 [#02065053]
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Hows come no one has mentioned the "Run the Place Red" remix?
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michelnicholas
from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-03-22 15:58 [#02065054]
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I know it's not "TRUE" dub-step per se but it's definitely laced!
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-22 15:59 [#02065055]
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r.i.p. barefiles
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-04-01 00:23 [#02068198]
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I am really getting into this stuff....... the DJ Distance album, the live sets that have been posted up all great, dark and atmospheric.....
Keep the suggestions coming for us n00bs......
Ceri JC, what've you got for me?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2007-04-01 12:21 [#02068284]
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I give it 3 years for total saturation of the genre
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-04-01 15:49 [#02068343]
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Sorry mate, not a lot been happening lately that has piqued my interest. Repress of Loefah - Disco Rekah and (the imminent) repress of Loefah -Root are worth getting, if you don't have them already.
i_x_ten: I dunno, DnB took about 5 times as long to get this diverse and it was okay for the best part of a decade before it got really tired.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-01 18:36 [#02068367]
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Dubstep seems to be something I can only dip in to now and then, and not for long. It's freshness as a sound soon passes and it starts to get boring. There's just not enough going on. And I do like minimalism in other places.
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2007-04-01 20:24 [#02068383]
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LAZY_TITLE - Reckless
Metalstep?
www.Dubstepforum.com covers it all
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diamondtron
on 2007-04-02 02:28 [#02068426]
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from what i can gather, around the time of the grime album or tempa's first cd's this genre wasn't established in the same way as it is now. there were PLENTY of tracks around but the scene was pretty much unaccessible to outsiders. everything seemes to have angry mc's on it or was the older style of speed garage/2 step whatever. when Zinc came out with 187 Trek or whatever it was called, this was a milestone. the genre was turning instrumental (more idm/techno/electronic whatever) but the scene was so small it wasn;t getting the publicity it deserved. around that time it was so fresh coz it took r&b and hip hop, morphed with the faster drum n bass styles and came up with something more the pace of Mills/UR/Electro stuff, with contemporary sounds, really driving. These days the scene centres more around dubstep and some tunes seem decent but basically it can fail in the same way modern hip hop ot r&b has. too sparse, too stoned, the production isn't there enough a lot of the time - what i'm trying to say is listen to king tubby or lee perry and they were surpassing it years before. can we have more tunes like plasticman pump up the jam or early bingo beats, trainer label, soul jah, something to tech to, something to jack to, something to rave to. without all the shouting of course. of all the slow stuff tho, I reckon Kode 9 seems to be the king. How about some outboard or analog delay or something, still a bit playstation. some more broadranging compilations, that time it used to feel like the first 10 or 15 warp releases, when they were legendary. it's like a golden egg that has been found but still not cracked. respect to all the producers, bo bo bo!
messageboards are crud for generalising aren;t they sorry, hope someone gets the point?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-04-05 03:23 [#02069553]
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Couple of new recommendations:
Mala - Forgive
At the more dubby end of the Mala's spectrum, but still with a few of the driving minimal techno stylings that made "left leg out" so good. Also has probably the nicest piano line I've heard in a dubstep/grime track, since slaughter mob's "dub weapon"
Mundo & Lifted MC - Bring Murda
Don't worry, I know it sounds as if it'll be a grime track, but it's not. Nice dubby track with dubbed out dancehall style vocal snippets. This is the AA side to "We Kill You" and personally, I rate it more highly than the A side.
J Sweet - Road Angel EP
Nearer to grime instrumentals than dubstep tracks, but I quite liked a couple of the tracks on this.
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darkpromenade
from Australia on 2007-04-05 05:21 [#02069580]
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nice one
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-04-25 17:51 [#02075901]
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I have to revise my earlier comment. Burial's album is so, so good. It reminds me a little of Photek and also Murcof. Any other Burial stuff that needs to heard?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-05-11 09:09 [#02082123]
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A few more new Dubstep recommendations:
The Others - Africa (I only really like the title track) Rusko - Acton Dread (not outstanding, but I quite like it and I thought Rusko was pretty dire prior to hearing this)
Both of these are on Dub Police, which wasn't previously a label I rated that highly.
Cyrus (of Random Trio Fame) - The Shadows Disc 1
This is the first of 3 discs that will make up his 'album'. I have a few things by them, but I'd never been that fussed by the Random Trio, or its individual members until hearing this. Hopefully the other two are discs will be as good as this. It's no Burial-beater, but this could be a contender for 2nd place best dubstep album (as opposed to compilation). All three tracks are solid (but not massively original), but Gutter really stands out. Almost sounds like Pinch in a few place.
Oh and of course Burial's "Unite" gets a proper release (CD only though) on Monday on the A Box of Dub Compilation.
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big
from lsg on 2007-05-20 16:03 [#02085824]
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i like
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-05-23 08:33 [#02086608]
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kromestar - surgery repress :))
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diablo
on 2007-05-23 08:38 [#02086610]
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I got the Horsepower Productions CD, In Fine Style, really good, it's garage style more than dubstep. Good gear.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-27 05:03 [#02097500]
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Shame on everyone who didn't get it first time round. ;)
I just managed to get a copy of Loefah's - Disco Rekah. A bit cheesey, but good fun.
Contrary to what I said earlier, A Box of Dub (and hence Burial's superb track, 'unite') is now out on 12".
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zero-cool
on 2007-06-27 05:44 [#02097519]
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fucking Planet-Video (bookshop/record store/films store) had Box of Dub on 12", had no money on me, so came back and some cunt took it!
get it while you can!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-06-27 07:49 [#02097557]
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Oh, I have my copy, don't you worry. Most of the other tracks on it are pretty good too. I already had I Wait and Magnetic City on 12" promo, but it was worth the cost of the release for Unite alone.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2007-06-27 07:52 [#02097559]
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Quark, Ruckspin & Planas
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