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OK
on 2007-01-09 15:47 [#02029161]
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cygnus shut up, its a great product. yes its expensive. good things are expensive. 8GB is enough to carry a lot of music, photos, all your contacts (and mine and his and all of xltronic's). The battery life is 5hours while running calls, video, internet. have u ever made a 5 hour phonecall on your cellphone? it has touchscreen, it has a big screen, it's thin, it looks great outside and in the UI. give me one damnit.
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on 2007-01-09 15:47 [#02029162]
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uh qwerty keyboard on the touchscreen?
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2007-01-09 15:51 [#02029166]
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$599 is what most brand, new cellphone models costs - and they're lacking like 99% of iphone's features.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 16:02 [#02029169]
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For that price I have a Samsung D-900 (with 512mb memory card), and a 30gb Creative mp3 player.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2007-01-09 16:05 [#02029171]
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i would still choose the iphone :)
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-09 16:07 [#02029172]
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he's been infected. it's spreading fast
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 16:12 [#02029175]
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Well, as P T Barnum said, "there's a sucker born every minute."
I think most companies use that truth to their great financial gain.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2007-01-09 16:14 [#02029176]
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so ppl buying the iphones (or anything expensive in your opinion) are suckers?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 16:19 [#02029181]
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Now now dear boy, don't put words into my mouth. I didn't say anything expensive. There's a lot of crap that's being bought based mostly on its hype and on its marketing. It's the way of the Western World (Image is Everything), and soon it will just be the way of the World; at that time we're doomed.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-09 16:22 [#02029182]
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I want it, I must be a sucker then.
Oh well, slurp it up.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2007-01-09 16:22 [#02029183]
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yes, as you obviously would buy a samsung d-900 and a 30gb Creative mp3 player. :)
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OK
on 2007-01-09 16:25 [#02029187]
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for how much money could u merge the samsung and the creative, make+ing it thin, and having a touchscreen, and having the features of the iPhone. gee it's a very good product why cant you admit it, its not about image it just looks fine.
thats like saying for the money of a bottle of champaigne i can buy 10 bottles of cheap vodka. I get drunk anyways soo..
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 16:27 [#02029189]
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I bought the Samsung after reading many reviews online, and weighing up which phone seemed best for me. I hadn't heard of the phone before that, as I'm not a big Mobile Phone freak.
I bought the Creative mobile phone because it was very reasonably priced (£140), their customer support is known to be good, the software is easy-to-use and has a good GUI, and it doubles as a portable hard-drive which is very useful.
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OK
on 2007-01-09 16:28 [#02029192]
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and when i say looks fine im not talking about image
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 16:32 [#02029197]
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Why would I want to merge the two? And you're implying that Creative are inferior to Apple, which they aren't. And why would I ever want to watch video on a crappy little screen through headphones (or through speakers if at home, when I might as well watch it on my laptop or tv)?
It looks like you've been suckered by such tat as 'touchscreen' and 'ultra-thin'. Big whoopee. I think I can live without touchscreen, and most phones an mp3 players these days are thin enough already; I'm not obsessed with having the thinnest, tiniest gadget.
It's not about image it just looks fine. What do you think image means?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 16:33 [#02029199]
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OK, OK.
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staz
on 2007-01-09 16:36 [#02029207]
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maybe YOU can live without it, but i personally think it's pretty awesome to have such a modular system as a phone. SOZ M8 initteianei fukc aciieed.
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b6662966
from ? on 2007-01-09 16:43 [#02029224]
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A Phone with no tactile buttons is like dating a hot girl with no nipples.
This iPhone thing is also pretty huge and looks incredibly fragile.
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OK
on 2007-01-09 17:05 [#02029259]
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youd want to merge the two so you can use them at the same time without droping one of them to the floor (I know you're super clumsy), isn't that obvious?.
The screen is the biggest yet, yeah it sounds stupid to watch movies on that thing, but im sure you have the power of imagining a situation where you'd want to use that feature (its about possiblilities maaaan!).
Thin means you can carry it around and it is not a nuisance to carry it, it's called confort, i'm sure u understand. I haven't been suckered into anything, my cellphone is a NOKIA idontknowwhatmodelnumber but it's one that doesn't have camera or even color screen, it has mono sound. I bought it because it has a flashlight and snake 2, I wouldn'y buy any other brand of phone other than nokia tho (fine phones), well maybe apple, when i make more money. so you see, i'm not obsesed with that either, I do have a nano and that's because i can keep it in my jeans's pockets.
Touchscreen also means intuitive and user friendly you dont have to navigate a menu for everything.
I said fine as when you use fine like you'd say fine wine. It's escellence imo.
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OK
on 2007-01-09 17:06 [#02029262]
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*excellence
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 17:12 [#02029270]
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Amazingly, I've managed to have my mp3 player tucked neatly in my back pocket (with many GBs of great music to listen to) and use my phone at the same time if I need to.
And no, I can't really think of a time when I'd need to watch a video so badly when not either at home or cinema or round a friend's house that I need to pay hundreds of pounds for it. Normally, if I'm in a situation where I fancy something to do, I'll read a book. Great things, books, and not a touch-screen in sight.
And are we in such shallow times when bypassing the use of a menu becomes a big selling-feature? Oh. Wow. I've seen other people's iPods and I certainly didn't find them as intuitive or user-friendly as my mp3 player.
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OK
on 2007-01-09 17:16 [#02029278]
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cranky old geezer. we're at times that theres nothing new to discover, no new direction to go, science is close to it's peak, art peaked 500 years ago. Yes.. bypassing menu is the greatest thing.
anyway I like it, I think it's graeat.
Wasn't Steve Jobs involved in the segway? haha that was supposed to be revolutionary too.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 17:20 [#02029280]
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Science is close to its peak, art peaked 500 years ago.
Don't talk such rot.
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-09 17:38 [#02029308]
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I like what apple do. but make a decent audio player first. Gadgets are secondary.
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OK
on 2007-01-09 18:22 [#02029354]
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Prove me wrong then.
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b6662966
from ? on 2007-01-09 18:24 [#02029356]
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OK, why do you write the English language like I take shits?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 18:25 [#02029357]
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I'm sorry, do you have access to every single piece of artwork and every piece of science ever made, and that will ever be made? Because that's the only way you'd even be in a position to consider where their ultimate peaks were.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-09 18:31 [#02029364]
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You people need to stop it with your bullshit. Just go wank each other off, you know you want to.
Marlowe, drink OK's piss, then shake hands. It's all gravy.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 18:33 [#02029365]
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Excellent mediation skills, Bob.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-09 18:35 [#02029368]
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No problem, I'll invoice you for it at the end of the month.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 18:39 [#02029374]
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Make sure the invoice is touch-screen or else I won't be impressed.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-09 18:44 [#02029379]
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People today, jeez.
You want it all. Touchscreen it is then. Hmpf.
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RussellDust
on 2007-01-09 18:53 [#02029385]
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he'd have to have pretty good knowledge about the future, for a start.
Ok, do you timetravel..? i mean what you said was silly anyway but as i wish to respect the fact taste is relative i'd like to know why you say that. i mean it's fine telling marlowe to prove you wrong, but the thing is can you prove us wrong or is it gonna be all about painting and masters?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-09 20:00 [#02029432]
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God marlowe, just because you don't think it's worth the money doesn't mean anyone who buy's it is a sucker. Obviously people value this, where everything is combined into a nice little package, and obviously it's more convenient then having a separate player for everything. Whether you think you need that to live or not, it's still more convenient, and people are willing to pay the money for that. Doesn't make them suckers though!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-09 20:18 [#02029449]
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Go back to your cave, please. I've seen used toilet-paper with more knowledge and wisdom smeared into it than you'll ever have. You are a total cretin & a sterile turd.
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OK
on 2007-01-09 22:06 [#02029526]
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I'm not sure what you mean. Do you take shits gracefully? Pics pls
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OK
on 2007-01-09 22:09 [#02029527]
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well, do you?
That "argument" can be mirrored to you, it's not a real argument. Try again please.
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OK
on 2007-01-09 22:11 [#02029528]
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Of course I can't prove it that would be silly.
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OK
on 2007-01-09 22:11 [#02029529]
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exactly.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-09 22:31 [#02029537]
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I don't see you making any intelligent posts here. You know it's real easy to call someone stupid. Hey Marlowe, you're stupid. See how easy that is? Doesn't mean there's any legitimacy to your claim though. My claim is legitimate though!
Seriously though, please go to the doctor, because you seem mentally unstable. You really shouldn't let message boards affect you so negatively!
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pigster
from melbs on 2007-01-09 22:58 [#02029544]
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hmm, a lot of crap in this topic. i'm sure as hell not gonna get one, but if you've got the money, by it seems like a useful phone.
i dont really see it as a music player/phone. like, it does combine ipod with phone in a nice little package, but this is only the first model (surely there'll be more more more). it only has 8gig and theres bound to be glitches and nuisances along the way. except, for a phone with internet and all those nice features in a nice looking touch screen product dealio, with 8 gig to randomly store music and other bits and pieces, i see no reason to have anything against this product.
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b6662966
from ? on 2007-01-09 23:33 [#02029555]
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I just took a shit and yes, its confirmed, OK writes the English language how I take a shit.
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OK
on 2007-01-10 00:01 [#02029557]
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I just took a shit and yes, it's confirmed, your mom was underneath.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-10 00:03 [#02029559]
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To all the crap about the iPhone being a useless gadget for suckers with too much money (Marlowe, one dog_belch is more than enough already): do you actually realise that in business-life all those pda's, blackberry's, uberfunctional cellphones, routeplanner proggy's are a necessary evil nowadays? Obviously, what Apple did here, was combining all AND improve on the functionality (making it easier to use by throwing away the keyboard). This is a huge step forward. I agree with you that for the people on the streets it's just an expensive gadget. From the business point of view it's a leap forward (only if they'd sync easily with pc's though....which is not clear at this point. but i hope it's clear what the potential is of this gadget).
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b6662966
from ? on 2007-01-10 01:42 [#02029572]
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well...that was lame. i hope Burt Reynolds rapes you tonight.
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avart
from nomo' on 2007-01-10 07:47 [#02029705]
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I will buy an iPhone (but it's not in europe until Q4 and my current phone will probably serve me well for another three-four years... a new nano comes first for me I guess)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-10 08:09 [#02029709]
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I had a phone MP3 player 5 years ago. I listened to Mp3s on it only about 20 times and went back to using my old phone within weeks. Having a phone that shares batteries with something "trivial" like a music player/handheld games console is a bad idea. You end up either flattening your battery and then desperately needing to use your phone before you have a chance to recharge it, or you never use the "trivial feature" for fear of this happening.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2007-01-10 08:22 [#02029712]
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i think its value for money.. widescreen video, mp3s, phone, internet browser, slick os with convenience of touchscreen. i think the memory is fair too; get an ipod if you want more! i have to charge my phone all the time as it is, and there should be wireless charging in the near future anyway.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-01-10 08:26 [#02029717]
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*raises eyebrows* Wireless charging? Are you sure? Not having a crack, but have you read anything to that effect or just hypothesising? It's an idea I've been interested in for years, but last time I read up about it, people still hadn't found a safe way of doing it (other than kinetic/solar/etc. for low power devices- not actual "transmission" of energy as such).
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-10 09:06 [#02029739]
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That's true at first, yes. But it usually takes time for a company to perfect a product. So yeah, if you get on the band wagon immediately when a product comes out, you'll probably be faces with sucky battery life, etc. But that's a necessary evil the company has to face in order to perfect that technology I think.
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