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Do you like the term IDM?
 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 00:35 [#02020348]
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I hate it.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-12-22 00:39 [#02020349]
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i don't like it, i don't hate it. it's stupid what it stands
for.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-12-22 00:43 [#02020351]
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Hating the word IDM is about as usefull as hating the word
muffin.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-12-22 00:45 [#02020352]
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Incandescent Door Mice


 

offline DiaZoHeXagoN from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-12-22 00:48 [#02020355]
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I hate the word muffin


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 01:03 [#02020356]
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I don't hate the word I hate the term. I find it
embarrassing and pretentious.



 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-12-22 01:24 [#02020358]
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dunno if it's pretentious since people who make music didn't
come up with it.


 

offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-12-22 01:33 [#02020359]
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What does it matter?


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-22 01:41 [#02020361]
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Why bother. The only place the term is used, is on geeky
messageboards. 99% of the world's population hasn't ever
heard of the term, or the music. Why not keep it that way.


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 01:43 [#02020362]
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True. It was spawned at the old hyperreal mailing list so
it's the network administrators fault.

It matters to me only when asked what music I'm into and
find myself cringing at the genre description I end up
using!


 

offline Mr Brazil from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-12-22 01:46 [#02020363]
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Electronic music? Music made exclusively with electronic
devices?


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 01:53 [#02020364]
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I preferred the term Techno 'music made with technology'
But 2 Unlimited ruined that on with the 'TECHNO TECHNO
TECHNO' chant on their top 40 hit.



 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-22 01:55 [#02020365]
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Just lie and tell them you like Christina Aguilera.


 

offline sheffieldbleep from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 01:57 [#02020366]
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It does seem to be the best solution.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-22 02:00 [#02020367]
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Perhaps it's better to say you like the Pussy Cat Dolls,
though. That way you come across as any other perverted
heterosexual. If you want safe, that's the way to go!


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 02:00 [#02020368]
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i like it. it sounds cool. who gives a shit what it stands
for - 6IE:CR doesnt stand for anything


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 02:05 [#02020371]
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IDM is an acronym for "Intelligent Dance Music", but that in
turn is an acronym for "Idiotic Nutsack Tickling Elephant
Loogie Licking Itchy Green Edible Neon Titty Dragging
Anarchic Nipple Condensation Eating Minty Unholy Shitty
Iridescent Clumps"

I put the accent on the D.

IDM

eyedeeem

IDM has different subgenres now of course; IDMcore, happy
IDM, etc.


 

offline esaruoho from helsinki (Finland) on 2006-12-22 02:07 [#02020372]
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poo



 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 02:09 [#02020373]
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IDM

eyedeeem

I deem
as in, I deem this music to be good.


 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 02:29 [#02020383]
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I love it, however pretentious and up its own ass it can
get.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 02:49 [#02020392]
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Idea from idea list A-Z:

Idea M: I deem eye dee em to be IDM.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 02:52 [#02020393]
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IDM
I'D M
I'd, um, like to say that this music is good.



 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 02:53 [#02020394]
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There's a new subgenre of IDM called HCL, where all the
famous IDM tracks are recreated with each note lowered by
1.

autphex twinechre


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-22 02:55 [#02020396]
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I Did Michael


Attached picture

 

offline futureimage from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-12-22 03:36 [#02020412]
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"'Intelligent Dance Music'
anagrams to
'Neglected, inimical nuts.'"


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-12-22 04:28 [#02020423]
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most people dont know what any genres actually are anyway so
I never use the term IDM except on here, it would never help
me explain anything.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-12-22 04:29 [#02020424]
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and it is pretentious because by using it you are asserting
that your choice of dance music is more intelligent
than someone else's


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-12-22 05:27 [#02020435]
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But lets be honest, how many intelligent people have you met
who listen almost exclusively to dance music? I'm not
talking about liking the odd chemical
brothers/prodigy/underworld track. I mean people who have
nothing in their record collection but those shitty
"Ministry of Sound" and "Ibiza Anthems" compilations that
Woolworths sell.

Not saying you don't get fuckwits who listen to IDM, but by
and large people like IDM are more intelligent than
people whose favourite artist is Jurgen Vines.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2006-12-22 05:46 [#02020439]
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id like to have a major study on that...

two friends of mine (one is a club owner) recently got very
sad about that the club only runs when the djs play minimal
techhouse which is the most common electro played in german
clubs.

they believe that people who only like that simply dont
understand anything with a broken beat, i say that most of
those people are simply bad educated in a musical way,
mostly by the media ...

btw: i didnt mean to say that idm consist of broken beats
only


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-12-22 05:50 [#02020442]
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well, i'll say this much - i occassionaly post on some other
forum and compared to that one this place is full of smart
people. ofcourse there are exceptions, but generally people
here are pretty smart i would say.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-22 05:53 [#02020444]
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Lots and lots of college kids listen to those Ibiza Anthems
and Ministry Of Sound kinda things. Lots of them who listen
more to music than Joe Sixpack have their musical fetishes,
but rarely it's 'IDM'. I hate to bring it to you, but
there's not much intelligent about IDM. A lot of older Aphex
is just as monotonous as any other Ibiza Anthem. If there's
something intelligent 80% of the time it has to do with the
techniques being used. Musically speaking it's rarely better
than what else is out there.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-12-22 06:03 [#02020449]
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so being college student makes you intelligent?

idm people don't have higher iq's, but they are somewhat
more open minded maybe. though as you say, there's a lot of
music out there that is much more challenging than idm as we
(here on xltronic) know it :)



 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2006-12-22 06:06 [#02020453]
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i wouldnt consider some old afx techno as idm though the
term came up somewhere in the 90s already, but still some
old afx had more than the simple beat that formed techno in
the first place and analogue bubblebath 3 and caustic window
tracks really make a difference imo


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-12-22 06:08 [#02020456]
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i actually cant say idm out loud.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-22 06:10 [#02020457]
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lol

yeah, the what makes people intelligent discussion... would
you think that listening to idm is a better indicator of
intelligence than going to college? idm people don't have
higher iq's, but they more intelligent nevertheless?
think what you like, but there's one point being made here -
once again - and that's the load of crap which comes from
the intelligence discussion.
please, lets stick to the "all pigs are equal, but some are
more equal"-mantra and forget about the intelligence-issue.



 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2006-12-22 06:10 [#02020458]
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braindance!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-12-22 06:16 [#02020463]
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i never said they're more intelligent. i said open minded
which is a big difference, for me anyway..also, do you know
lots of people into idm without colege education? college is
really something common nowdays..i know lots of people with
college education who are plain idiots and i know very few
idiots among people who enjoy different music (unfortunately
i don't know many idm people around here, so i i can't judge
on that, but from my experince in old europe people
attending idm gigs are pretty much open minded people).


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-22 06:24 [#02020469]
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perhaps idm'ers are more openminded. i tend to think that
people who are into idm will generally think that other
idmers are just as 'openminded' as they are, just because
they have the same tastes. it's an illusion. they're
probably just as openminded to the Ibiza Anthems as the
Ibiza-minded people are towards IDM.

don't get me wrong, IDM-heads are extremely cool people and
i could go gay on all of you any time of day, but in the end
it is still another example of "some are more equal than
others".


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-12-22 06:28 [#02020473]
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There should be a law against these discussion.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-12-22 06:31 [#02020475]
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i know what you mean, and it's definitelly a bit of that
'influence' as well. i don't know what people you refer to
with ibiza anthems people, i mean whether you're being
literal or you just mean people into mainstream music, but
i'd say people into different music are interested in lets
say other art as well, when those ibiza people are more into
partying and clubbing. thought there are always exceptions.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-22 06:34 [#02020477]
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Lets kiss and make love before Dan starts to take another
piss on us.

x


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-12-22 06:41 [#02020480]
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we could make some free love with that chick from your
avatar.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2006-12-22 06:44 [#02020481]
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don't even think of going there. she's 100% mine! you could
have my mom though.


 


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