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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-17 07:00 [#02003729]
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/idcards/story/0,,1950226,00.htm...
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-11-17 07:04 [#02003740]
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i need a new passport
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-11-17 07:16 [#02003745]
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Cheers Chris, that was an interesting read.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-11-17 07:20 [#02003747]
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passports should be banned altogether.
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mimi
on 2006-11-17 22:37 [#02004195]
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i know, we should be able to go wherever we want!!!
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-17 23:00 [#02004201]
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this is far too complicated for 6 in the morning.
*bookmarks*
cheers.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-17 23:03 [#02004202]
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ditto
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-18 02:57 [#02004234]
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It's quite worrying really as I'm a careless sod. I nearly lost all my plane tickets and passport in Australia.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-11-18 04:00 [#02004240]
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thanks for the interesting link. the big brother total surveillance society is here
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-11-18 09:43 [#02004340]
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double account = b7
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2006-11-18 12:20 [#02004404]
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"Consider this scenario: A postman involved with organised crime knows he has a passport to deliver to your home... If the rogue postman were to take your passport home, without opening the envelope he could put it against a reader and begin a 'brute force' attack in which your computer tries 12 different permutations every second until it has the right access codes"
I find this situation sort of comical.
I didn't get how the key works though... It consists of these three pieces of info which are inside the passport, which is in a "machine readable zone?" So you can read it visually and by machine with a special scanner? I've never had to use a passport at a hotel, but do they usually take enough time with it to get this information and scan this chip, or would it seem suspicious? Though that raises the issue that they're new, so people might not know what to expect and wouldn't neccesarily be suspicious because of this.
Also, the "10 years from yesterday, give or take a day" for the expiration date makes me think. If this was the case and they didn't know the exact date, wouldn't that potentially multiply the time it would take to use a 'brute force' attack to crack into the chip? This would have to be a fairly well-organized postman to already have your birthdate as well. I don't really think it would be as easy as they claim to use a 'brute force' attack, though it is certainly possible. I'd say it is more likely that the scenario with the hotel stealing and cloning he info is much more likely and scary, since they can see your info when you give them the passport.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-19 17:22 [#02004902]
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On the plus side, at least our lot are grateful that the flaw has been exposed and are seeking to correct. Recently, across the pond, a not too disimilar scam also involving identity manipularion to board planes was discovered (by a US citizen who was a computer security professional and doctoral student at MIT). Their response? Raid his house, arrest him, take his website down and try to charge him under anti-terror laws. Spackers.
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