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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2006-11-14 02:54 [#02001776]
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I've noticed that recently dubstep has become the new sound with artists like kode9, burial and skream. Also rephlex and planet mu are interested on that. I wonder if it is the new drum'n'bass. For now I like it very much and I recoomend to everyone the series of dubstep mixes 1,2,3,4.
Opinions?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 03:09 [#02001780]
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Do you mean the Dubstep Allstars mixes, 1-4? I like them.
Mu seems to of embraced dubstep to the point of the exclusion of almost everything else (which to my mind is a good thing).
I think Dubstep is absolutely superb (much better than Grime) and it's amazing that it's not more popular here. Better than DnB imo, although I like that too.
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delodepote
from Prague (Czech Republic) on 2006-11-14 03:16 [#02001782]
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Mary Ann Hobbes has released Dubstep Warriorz. Accordingly to playlist it looks like new d&b generation ;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 04:04 [#02001790]
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On the subject of Dubstep Warriorz and Various Productions' "The World is Gone" and to a lesser degree, Burial's album, I'm suprised they've not enjoyed more widespread success. I don't mean being on MTV or charting, I just mean that people who are 'into music' and reasonably well versed in non-popular music haven't heard of them. I'm consistantly amazed by how many friends who DJ/are musicians themselves/have quite eclectic music tastes still haven't heard of these releases, or even about dubstep at all.
I reckon various productions (especially now they've been signed by xl) will enter the more mainstream areas of music in the not too distant future though.
Best thing to happen to British music in years and it seems most people aren't noticing. :(
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delodepote
from Prague (Czech Republic) on 2006-11-14 04:30 [#02001803]
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i agree
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-14 04:52 [#02001808]
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Bristol is dubloaded. If you are old enough to remember jungle before it was drum and bass was a hideous dirty filthy ethic urban noise. Nobody wanted too touch, then it was the next new thing according to the media that had just appeared. Twenty years on it has been watered down so much that you don't even clock a DnB pattern in the latest shampoo TV advert.
I like the sub bass and the tunes in dubstep/grime. Personally I just don't like it when it is too overtly urban/street. Especially MCing. Jungle was always better without MCing.
I hate the way DJ like Mary Anne Hobbs think everything is great.
They are just trying to extend their carrear by hedging their bets.
Scenes always start out marginal/niche until the men in charge looking at spreadsheets can see the dollar signs racking up.
In my opinion it has the potential to be really big. Sort tap into the RNB/Rap urban market.
I can imagine it is going to be all over when Maddona's next record has a dubstep beat in about 2 years time.
Rant Over
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 05:27 [#02001819]
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I agree with most of your post, but disagree about Ms. Hobbs. She's the new John Peel in my eyes.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-14 05:34 [#02001825]
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I dont think much of various production... its okay but thats about it. A lot of dubstep is quite dull, this just seems like dull with a twist.
I agree with jaser about Hobbs, she irritates me.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2006-11-14 05:35 [#02001826]
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Intelligent Reggaeton Music
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 05:39 [#02001827]
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I don't think VP are the best the scene has to offer, I just think they're amongst the most likely to have a wider success.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-11-14 05:53 [#02001832]
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most dubstep is utter wank. but there are some really good tunes out there. skreams wibbly wobbliness is great
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2006-11-14 06:02 [#02001834]
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I'm listening to burial album and it's very good, there's laso another compilation called the roots of dubstep, I found it on the shops.I've seen it's not difficult to find releases on that kind on shops so I hope it won't become a commercial affaire as happened to DnB
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-11-14 06:04 [#02001835]
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ho ho ho!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 06:07 [#02001836]
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Yes, most of Loefah and Digital Mystikz output sounds pretty boring to my ears and I can see how the rather repetative (ideally hypnotic) nature of some tracks could grate if you didn't like it.
As you say though, there are a few tracks like midnight request line that are undeniably funky.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-11-14 06:12 [#02001838]
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did commercialising really ruin drum&bass? didnt it just keep it going? flogging a dead horse? I just got a bit bored of it, I dont know if anything bad actually happened to drum & bass
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2006-11-14 06:21 [#02001841]
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I think that in the next two year dubtep will die and a new genre will come like rock'n'bass. for now what I like is that when DnB happened I was quite young now I can see the spreading of something new and i'm curious about what will come next
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 06:42 [#02001845]
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rock 'n bass?
It already exists. It's sometimes jokingly refered to as "Kornstep". It's like a cross between Korn-style guitar riffs (hence the name) and Dubstep. I don't like it, it sounds a bit try-hard and put on (not unlike Korn in that respect ;-) ) and it's not particularly popular. Only track I've heard that sound remotely like this that I like is DJ Distance's "Fallen".
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-14 06:52 [#02001848]
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I always find it terribly exciting when a new genre is created so lots of people, who otherwise wouldn't really know what to do, can go and make music similar to each other.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 07:05 [#02001850]
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My favourite is when you get vanity labels that are set up solely for one of these new scenes, that release gash records by the owner and a few mates (and have no interest in signing amazing, overlooked talent that doesn't know them personally) and then run up huge debts and go under, their only legacy being 950+ unsold copies of each of their tedious releases in the owner's bedroom and a poor credit rating.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-14 07:21 [#02001855]
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That's poetry, in a maaaad way.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 07:47 [#02001868]
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Unlike most people here i think Grime > Dubstep. And i like the MC'ing.
I just considered this... dont you think Busta Rhymes:Touch it is a bit grimy?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 07:57 [#02001873]
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I love Diplo's remix of Touch it and I like the original track. I can't really hear much of a Grime influence in it though. The subtle flam on the clap is more well produced american hip hop than floops. ;-)
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Babaouo
from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-11-14 07:58 [#02001874]
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yes it is!
Ive given Skream & Burial a few listens and still dont really get what's so big about them.
Love dubstep to death tho. Vex\'d (as it appears on Bleep) Boxcutter Hawerchuk Distance
have much potential in my book.
AE should mix with some dubstep artists. would be an interesting tune.
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 08:07 [#02001875]
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Yah, it might be a bit far fetched.
Shit, i rember a grime track i listened to some time ago "top producer" (can't remember who made it)
There was a fucking line "you can't beat me in fruityloops 3"
Hilarious.
I actually love the program myself i must admit....
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 08:09 [#02001877]
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One of my all time favourite grime tracks is Merkle man (jammer):Merkle man
(also, Murkle depending on how you spell it
LAZY_TITLE
It's perfect, because it has a catchy, rough riff, and something all grime lacks: HUMOUR!!!!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 08:10 [#02001879]
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One of my all time favourite grime tracks is Merkle man (jammer):Merkle man
(also, Murkle depending on how you spell it
LAZY_TITLE
It's perfect, because it has a catchy, rough riff, and something all grime lacks: HUMOUR!!!!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 08:10 [#02001881]
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Damn....
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2006-11-14 08:39 [#02001906]
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anyway I don't see a competition between grime and dupstep they share the same roots and some compilation feature artists of both sides
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