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U.S. Ban On Feeding Homeless
 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-10-08 04:52 [#01984018]
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Since July it has been illegal to hand out food to homeless
people in public parks in Orlando and Las Vegas. This law
was apparently passed to try and stop large groups of people
congregating in communal areas and curb littler and crime.

The Las Vegas branch of Food Not Bombs and the American
Civil Liberties Union of Nevada have filed suit against the
city, claiming that the law stating that "the providing of
food or meals to the indigent for free or for a nominal fee"
is a crime, violates rights of free speech, assembly,
religion, due process and equal protection. Violations of
this law can result in fines of up to $1000 or 6 months in
jail.

In Orlando, a permit is required to feed a large group in
any public park. Organisations are only allowed two permits
per park per year, which makes it difficult to regularly
provide food to people who need it.

Las Vegas's spokesperson said that the aim of the law was to
encourage homeless people to go to homeless service centres.
I am concerned that homeless shelters are already
overcrowded and struggling to account for the huge numbers
of people visiting them, and that often sleeping rough is
seen by the homeless as preferable to the conditions of the
shelters, where they often get beaten up or have their
posessions stolen.
More cities are now also considering putting similar laws in
place.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-10-08 04:55 [#01984019]
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This is the type of law that most people (including the
police) will totally ignore. Anyone who decides to feed a
bunch of homeless people will do it regardless.


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-10-08 05:03 [#01984020]
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A radio station went round Las Vegas giving out food and
drink to the homeless and they were fined for it.
In Orlando they've found a loophole in the law (until it
gets discovered) and they hold "picnics" to feed the
homeless.

They will ignore the law but I don't think they'll be able
to escape being punished for it. Also If the homeless people
are being moved along by the police, they won't be around as
much for the public to have the oportunity to feed them


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-10-08 05:08 [#01984022]
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Yeah, it is the bone for a radio station or freelance
orginization I guess. But theres other ways of helping the
homeless to that they can invest their time/money in.

"Give a man a fish" etc.

But as for your average joe... that would have to be a dick
of a cop to give you a fine for giving a homeless guy a
sandwich or something... especially in the crowded
metropolitan areas where the homeless tend to live, the cops
usually have better things to do.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-10-08 08:10 [#01984055]
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This is just Darwinism in action. These losers will starve
to death, preventing their shitty genes being passed on to
the next generation of scumbags.


 

offline staz on 2006-10-08 08:34 [#01984059]
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yeah, but darwinism is more about being born into luxury
these days than actually striving very much for it.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-10-08 08:42 [#01984061]
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Being born into luxury is awesome.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-10-08 08:44 [#01984062]
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its hardly darwinism if its down to luck


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-10-08 08:48 [#01984063]
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this law isn't actually gonna be taken seriously is it?


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-10-08 08:48 [#01984065]
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It's their own fault.


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2006-10-08 09:11 [#01984067]
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coincidentally, all bums are paedophiles.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-10-08 09:16 [#01984068]
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of courrse it is. feeding people sleeping on the strreet is
frrowned upon all overr the place. not just because it's
considerred unsafe forr the homeless and they'd rratherr
they went to the shelterrs but because the govt. doesn't
want scrruffy trramps making the city looking awful.



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-10-08 09:18 [#01984070]
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crriminalising people forr giving them food seems ludicrrous
to me though.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-08 09:26 [#01984072]
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if you're ever in a good mood and feeling kind...

foggeddabaaadit!


 

offline zero-cool on 2006-10-08 09:27 [#01984073]
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fucking controlled society, wtf is this bullshit!!!
government fat cat mark foley gordon gekko wannabes cant
feed their own people, and so the community want to help
feed dem homless, and they make it illegal so they dont look
bad???

MOTHA FUCKING FUCKS!!!


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-10-08 09:28 [#01984075]
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I hate the poor.


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-10-08 09:35 [#01984079]
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The problem with the homeless is it's a sign that the system
is not working. Government is put in place to
diplomatically rectify regulations so that there is always a
path leading to more control. It has been thousands of
years in which the Con has tried to rid the planet of
spiritual heathens. These homeless are the last tribe
amongs civilization living indigenously. The problem is
that they don't pay taxes. And if you don't pay taxes you
should starve.

At least that's what I have gathered from my American life
of privaledge/oppression....


 

offline vveerrgg from life (Canada) on 2006-10-08 09:50 [#01984085]
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being born from Angelina Jolie would be pretty sweet...

...in a being born in luxury sorta way.

think about it...


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-10-08 09:51 [#01984087]
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you'd be too young to remember the good parts...


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2006-10-08 09:59 [#01984096]
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why to hate poor people?


 

offline zero-cool on 2006-10-08 10:14 [#01984108]
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cause hes Chevy of course, no wonder mr.nutella ;)


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-10-08 10:15 [#01984109]
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Just kidding, I'm broke myself.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-08 10:16 [#01984110]
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yeah i read about this a while ago. it's pretty shocking.

totally against the principles of christianity which most
americans hold so dear


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-10-08 10:16 [#01984111]
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i don;t hate poor people
i don;t even pity them
they don;t hafta work for the man
or it;s all they do

i wish that paragraph was a limerick


 

offline rad smiles on 2006-10-08 10:53 [#01984116]
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giving a shit is illegal too.


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-10-08 10:57 [#01984117]
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i like anti-abortionist pro-lifer protestors because they
bring gigantically graphic forms of very graphic visual
media graphically to the forefront when they could be
feeding somebody


 

offline mimi on 2006-10-08 11:21 [#01984125]
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while it's pretty dumb, it's definitely not a US ban, these
are city ordinances, local things, not national.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-10-08 12:42 [#01984148]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker



Regardless we have some dumb laws everywhere. This is just
some more to add to the list. Kinda sad.


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-10-08 12:44 [#01984153]
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we need more laws -- that's how shit gets regulated --
that's how we, the people, finally obtain control


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-08 12:49 [#01984157]
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individualism, or rather, american individualism (the idea
that you are 100% responsible for your own "destiny" (not in
the mystical way, but in the "life you live and have led"
kind of way) with the (in no way justified) assumption that
all paths are equally open and accesible to all those born
in "the free world."


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-08 12:50 [#01984159]
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oh, wait, I forgot the point

individualism, as described before, overrules even
christianity; it is what the ever wise "founding fathers"
made for their great country.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2006-10-08 17:37 [#01984275]
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I find it funny that dumpster diving is illegal.


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-10-08 20:33 [#01984291]
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That bum could sue you!


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2006-10-08 22:53 [#01984297]
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It's illegal in the UK for a taxi to start work without a
massive bail of hay on the roof. Or something like that.


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-10-08 23:50 [#01984312]
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Well, give them guns, then.
Arm the homeless!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-10-09 02:12 [#01984340]
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Yes, I think it's that they're supposed to have have a hay
bail in the boot. Something to do with feeding the horses in
the days of horse and carts. There's a local law in some
English town near the Welsh border that locals may shoot
Welsh people with a bow and arrow.

I can't see this "curing" the homeless problem. Most
homeless people eat out of the bins at the back of
restaurants, it's not like they'll starve as a result. In my
experience, it's comparatively rare for homeless people to
accept food (on the street, as opposed to at designated
homeless shelters), they usually just want the money
instead.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-09 04:47 [#01984361]
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ah, but not in America!

I remember talking to my mother about how restaurants in
America were refusing food to the homeless and trying to get
rid of them from the back alleys since there had been a
spate of litigation from homeless people against restaurant
owners due to illness caused by eating the restaurant's food
from a bin.

i had read a special on it in the times on sunday. it's
really bizarre.. really warped and perverse.

i can't see how any homeless person could've won such a
lawsuit, but I believe restaurant owners started making it
more and more difficult for homeless people to feed on their
scraps because they generally didn't want the expense and
headaches a lawsuit could entail.


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-09 07:45 [#01984463]
Points: 40065 Status: Regular



This thead makes me hungry, im getting some pop-tarts


 

offline LuminousAphid from home (United States) on 2006-10-09 09:29 [#01984488]
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a homeless person shat outside my work 2 nights ago.


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-09 09:35 [#01984491]
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and when you say "shat" you mean "sat" or "shit"
or both?


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-09 09:39 [#01984492]
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wanker yankees.


 

offline hexane on 2006-10-09 09:46 [#01984498]
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how do ppl here feel about aids-infested assholes?


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-09 09:52 [#01984503]
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i sex'em up


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2006-10-09 09:54 [#01984504]
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Shat, being the past tense of shit. Ex: "I took a shit,"
would become, "I shat."


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-09 09:55 [#01984507]
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Ive shat before


 

offline swift_jams from big sky on 2006-10-09 09:55 [#01984508]
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me2


 

offline hexane on 2006-10-09 10:03 [#01984516]
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on the homeless?


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-09 10:07 [#01984517]
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no, cant say i have, although about a week ago, i gave the
local homeless man a $10 spot, cause i was feeling really
generous that day


 

offline aneurySm from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2006-10-09 10:11 [#01984518]
Points: 1701 Status: Lurker



i walk to work
one day a guy tried to wave me over in front of a party
store
he was about 100 feet away
so i told him
i;m going to work
but when i left work
this kid was in the exact same spot
he'd been waiting for me there for 8.3 hours....
didn't look local..


 

offline hexane on 2006-10-09 10:11 [#01984519]
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trust me, its snickers the turd that satisfies


 


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