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Just bought one alongside sky package. Anyone else have this? |
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i'm getting one when it's financially viable... some time in 2020? |
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nope. we just got standard sky. |
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just remember the damn hidden costs. You pay god knows how much for the tv, then 300 quid for a hd set top box, then around 40+ a month for the channels. YEESH. but it rules. |
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40+ a month for like..6 hd channels? lol |
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10 hd channels + all the sky channels on digital + free broadband |
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i really want a 52" one because quite frankly the picture is gorgeous and i love console gaming so. i'm just having problems with deciding on one since i want a 1080p native one when they're affordable, but i know upconverting/interpolation etc. takes too much juice to avoid latency issues when using consoles. which renders the xbox 360 situation a bit problematic. |
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what's the point? |
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I'm waiting for UberDefinition, where the image is more realistic than reality. |
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HD is fucking beautiful. i don't even own a tv (and i love it!!!) but a few of my buddy's have HDTV and I go over there to watch lost, or some other hd programs. it's is soooo nice. especially for sports games. wow |
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better quality |
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it's television. |
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I've had an HDTV for years and I've never actually had any actual HD programming heh... I don't watch much TV. It does look awesome though from what I've seen, hockey in HD is very nice. I'd like to have it but it's too expensive considering my viewing habits, or lack thereof. I bought my TV pretty much exclusively for gaming. Xbox 360 looks superb in HD. But still I wish I'd held out on buying the TV... I really should have waited, because it wasn't until the 360 came out that the investment was worth it. I could have had a nicer DLP right now if I'd waited rather than made an impulse purchase during a generation where HD gaming wasn't standard. (I'm pretty pissed that the Nintendo Wii isn't supporting HD) |
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have you ever watched the 1000th reality show or the 10000th sitcom or the 1000000th commercial thinking "man, if only the quality of the picture was better!!". |
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have you ever viewed the 1000th or 10,000 post of someone on xltronic, thinking "man, if only this page would have loaded faster!" |
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i'm just concerned about dvds/games in the hdtv area, really, so i dunno. i don't care about that stuff. |
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watching LOST (lush scenes) on HDTV is beautiful. going back and watching it on normal is just, meh. sure the content is still there, but you can't argue with resolution |
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sky movies hd and sky one hd and sky sports hd justify everything. Nature programmes in HD will be awesome too. Plus PS3 whenever the hell they release that over here. Watching hd tv is kinda expensive at the moment, but channel 4 and BBC are starting a regular hd tv service in 2007 (bbc have a partial channel already - shows like 3 things a day). I don't think the price will drop, but more will be on offer. |
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why be bothered about the picture quality, when it's already far better than satisfactory, but the quality of the programmes is just shite? |
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i think it's pretty obnoxious of you to decide what's "satisfactory" for everyone else. |
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I have looked at many HD setups in the shops and I've seen no better quality over a normal setup. |
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Keep in mind that shops have HDTVs set to torch, they're uncalibrated, usually have DVDs running on them which is pretty much an obsolete tech, and rarely actually have HD material displayed. Actually when I was shopping for my TV, the shops usually had DVD players hooked up to these things via freakin' RCA cables... ugh. What's the point? Actually my uncle has a beautiful 60 inch behemoth and he STILL uses RCA cables for his home theater... it's a tragedy. I'd say the difference between standard def and hi-def is night and say, but not everyone is a videophile... my mom says she doesn't notice a difference. |
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same goes for stuff with audio quality, bit rates for digital music, etc. some people notice the difference, some just dont others just don't care (???) but me personally; hd fuckin rawkkkkks |
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:D "shit is shit even in megabits" (highdef = still braindeath - it's only tv, just made to keep people away from subversive activities and increase consumption) |
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:D "shit is shit even in megabits" (highdef = still braindeath - it's only tv, just made to keep people away from subversive activities and increase consumption) |
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good job figuring that out |
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avart, you are a tit. |
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I just did a little test comparing HDTV to HDTV resized to PAL resolution and then back to HDTV using high quality resizers and a little sharpening the difference is not dramatic, I had to look pretty careful to spot the difference in a picture that is standing still. The most apparent difference are hairs. If things were moving it would probably be even harder to tell the difference the comparison avisynthscript I used was this: a=imagesource("snapshot_HD.jpg").converttoyv12() b=a.spline36resize(720,576).limitedsharpenfaster(dest_x=192 0,dest_y=1088,strength=50) stackhorizontal(a.crop(512,0,-960,0),b.crop(512,0,-960,0)) return(last) too bad tvs don't use these resizers, the difference that people really notice is caused by resizers in tvs that are not suitable for sharp upsizing. the HDpicture I used was with the koreans here: http://www.hdtvpub.com/examples/HDTV-Screenshot-DB.cfm |
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it's not about not being able to notice a difference, it's more about not caring about the difference. it's about caring more about content, not about how pristene the image is. |
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am i disqualified if i care about both? |
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get me a cathode ray tube any day lcd, pah! |
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I agree, what we need is a CRT hdtv with an upsizer that looks like this: lanczos4resize(1920,1088) aWarpSharp(Depth=4,Blurlevel=1,cm=0) then even normal resolution DVDs and broadcasts would look almost as good as an actual HDTV signal. Especially if they don't compress the video too much. I've reached a SSIM level of +/- 0.971(1 would be perfect) for my fake HD(upsized SD) compared to the showcase HD image that I mentioned above. things that kill the HD effect: - compression(always throws away detail if lossy) - average LCD tvs(cheap ones often much lower than 1920x1088) - grainy movies (a very high percentage) - viewing distance and videomovement(because of the way our eyes work) I like HDTV but if you add all this, the new copy protection, the amount of money the new devices cost and that you need to get your movies all over again, I think I'll pass on real HDTV and go for fake HD on the PC+CRT monitor if I want higher quality video |
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Well, they were displaying a supposedly HD Sky Channel. It's probably the cables they're using. |
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if someone was all like "herre's a HDTV forr you, forr free", i'd be all like "cool", but i won't buy one everr i don't think, unless i need a new TV and it's all they make anymorre. |
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that's becoming a real danger.. a mate needs a new tv and we were out looking for a new tv, but all they had was all that plasma and lcd crap... |
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What about DLP? I wouldn't spend money on a plasma/LCD either, but I'd trade my CRT for a DLP in a heartbeat. |
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I'm drawing up plans for a projector system in my room. It's only an idea but bascially it turns the end of my bed into a projector screen so I can lie in bed and watch extreme porn. |
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isn't that for projectors only? you wouldn't want a projector for stuff like just watching the tv or anything involving having it on for lots and lots of time in one go.. they burn out and those lightbulbthingies are damned expensive... |
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It looks ok I guess. |
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They're rear projection, not projectors, and while they're definitely not as resilient as a CRT (which seem to be almost immortal), they're way better than plasmas in that regard. I saw one in action for a few minutes in one of those demonstration rooms in a store (someone playing Kameo on the 360) and it put everything else to shame, didn't seem to have any of the quirks of the other TVs. Never any ghosting, never any geometry errors, never any convergence problems, never any screen-door (I think), no possibility of burn-in, they're not too bulky... I'm definitely ditching CRT for one of those as soon as I have the cash. |
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but isn't one of the weaknesses of rear-projection that it, like lcd, has no black? |
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Probably not as good as a direct view CRT, for sure, but I'd gladly sacrifice it for the impossibly sharp and vibrant picture I saw. Then again Kameo is a really really bright game and I didn't really get to gauge the black levels at all... I read it's not as big a problem as it is with LCD. I gotta go back there and see if I can a dark game like Splinter Cell running on there... |
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you should try looking at some real expensive crts.. they're awesome! you know how the gladiator looks really crisp? they do that to all movies (of somewhat decent quality)! |
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CRT is still the best by far, but FUCK are they ever heavy. |
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I dunno man, I love the crispness (and they're awesome for gaming) but they screens are so small and there's so much junk in their trunk... screen-size would be of paramount importance to me, it just doesn't feel, like ''epic'' or something on anything less than 45 inches... I chose a rear-projection CRT over a direct-view for this very reason, knowing full well the picture isn't as sharp. This fuggin' DLP was a huge monster yet it still looked better than the direct-view. It made me tele-penis feel small. :_-( Fuck high end electronics. |
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