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How can we see our entire solar system? we know about the 8 planets (sorry pluto), but what I am getting at is: from our position all of our sattelites our missions outward in space and all that, isn't it highly likely that directly opposite from our orbit of the sun another planet or two orbits as well? How would we be able to see them given our current positioning and the courses weve already taken into space? there could possably be other planets in orbit on our same plane that we just dont see because it is on the opposite side of the sun... If you get what I am saying prove me wrong, or have I missed something? from earth our telescopes can really only do what we can do standing still. we can look far left, far right , strait forward up and down. but we cannot see behind the sun... (and please exclude ub313 and all the others I am talking about the opposite side of the sun not what is already in plain view from earth.) |
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fuck Pluto |
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Fuck you recycle "all you ever do is hold me back" -akira I'm serious when I first thought of that I felt like I started back at zero, Like I knew nothing again and that my mind was like that of a child it was exhilerating. |
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I am in quite a dilemma. As I cannot tell if this is a serious thread. If it is, you know we have telescopes that aren't on Earth. |
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It is still serious. I know we have telescopes off the earth but my point remains there is still one helluva fucking blindspot in what we see. even if we have them as far as saturn, doesnt matter. or at least my interpretation is that most of the planets in orbit are ona single plane (give or take about 40degrees off) and for the most part only really cover (with all of that and every angle we can see from those planets) maybe 1/3 of the blind spot I an talking about. the sun is fucking gigantic I dont think we can see what is directly on the opposite side of it from any of the 8 planets or any of the sattelites we have out there given our position. |
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many spelling errors please look past them. |
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You lost me. |
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we have giant space telescopes that can see that shit if i recall correctly |
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what hes trying to say is that our telescopes can't see "through" things though and there maybe another planet directly fucking opposite earth (on the other side of the sun) moving at the same speed we are. So our telescopes wouldn't be able to see it because the sun is in the way. |
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yes the stoner has got it! so what do you think of it weatheredstoner? |
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what about spaced based imagery? couldn't the Hubble Space Telescope see the spot directly opposite the earth, without the Sun being in the way? |
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But our telescopes are not in the same place as us. If you and I are twenty feet apart, and there is a tree directly in front of me, there could be a rabbit behind the tree that I wouldn't see, but you would. Besides, even without telescopes, the likelyhood of this happening are nearly zero (that a planet would be in the right place, be the right size, and move at the right speed in the right orbit.) |
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the sun is a couple hundred maybe a thousand Jupiter sized planets. you could have the hubble at pluto and you'd MAYBE see half of the area we're speculating. |
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If you want, you can pop on up there and match speed with the sun. I'll pilot the earth on around and pick you up in about a year. It should be interesting for you to watch the earth take off like that... You can let us know if anything else comes around in the meantime. |
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correction the sun is roughly 110 Earths. sorry for the over exaggeration. btw the moon of Io (jupiter i believe) is pretty fascinating should look it up sometime. no really look it up. |
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I'll give you gas money if you'll drop me off. |
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"our missions " |
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Those hidden planets would cause gravitational anomalies that are measurable. Lots of planets and space stuff are discovered not by direct observation, but by observation of the effects in the surroundings. |
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rostasky is right, we're dealing with such vast distances, not least between the already existing planets. And planets are not orbiting the sun at the exact same speed, which means if the planets are currently in sync, they haven't been in the past and people would have seen them. |
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No need to see, i say. |
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well keeping that in mind if they werent in sync in the past then the likelyhood that they would have been seen and recorded is still rather unlikely. just think about how long it took to find pluto, and then UB313. they arent easily spotted from the naked eye or by telescope. the time windows on viewing such an oddity would most likely be short so you would most likely run into that problem that " they just put the telescopes down too soon" as they did with pluto and UB313. The gravitational differences I doubt would be as easily measured because of the great distance. (i just woke up so if this made sense i deserve a prize) |
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no need to see. i just fall in love with the sentence... so simple, so important nowadays... NO NEED TO SEE, |
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"The gravitational differences I doubt would be as easily measured because of the great distance." They spot black holes in other galaxies by the gravitational differences... |
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jajaja! |
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But the solar system is huge. What i'm talking about is the angle, our planet and the sun. Yes, the sun i huge but our solar system is gigantic. So the chances of missing out on important data behind that black spot are microscoping, when comparing astronomic properties. There could be celestial bodies even further out, thats more a matter of how you view it. But not because our orbit is hiding something. |
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:) |
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eh.. the planets fall around the sun at different speeds, and so, I would believe, do our space telescopes, meaning there could quite possibly be times when those telescopes are where this other planet would be, the other side of the sun while we're on this side. We haven't just positioned stuff in a straight line out from us making it fall at the same velocity and in the same orbit. it's the same with the satelites we send out.. they aren't shot straight out, they fall and enter and escape different planets gravitational fields at different places and times, and their path would be more like a snake than a straight line... |
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See pic. Now, I know what you're going to say, and that would be talking bollocks. |
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Ok, I'll lay down my arms. I realize my mistake in the different speeds of the outter planets however this speculation still is a possability dont rule it out. pluto was there a long time before we found it and so was UB313. I really want to thank you all though for getting in on this, Its refreshing to have speculation on the boards when it would be so easy for you all to just brush it off and say it is 100% bullshit and not worth the effort. and to Recycle, you better know that I was kidding... |
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:) i love you too Babaouo, i love Pluto also but it just came to mind in an instance i really like space and teh exploration and science and all :) |
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Um, 1, it is highly unlikely that they would maintain the exact same orbit time as us (365.24 days or whatever). All the planets at some point are on the opposite side, or the closer side. 2. even if, there would be ways to tell because of their gravitational effects on other bodies |
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fuck man, all of that has been said ALREADY!! you're LOSING it, mappaman! SHIIIT!!! |
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