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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 09:45 [#01954274]
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I'm thinking of buying a DSLR, my ixus is great for on the fly pics but no good for professional type stuff. Anyhow I've been looking at the Fujifilm S9500 and the S7500, it seems the best for the money, although the fact that it doesnt take SD card is annoying (as i can get 1gb for a tenner). Anyhow I dont know much about DSLR's was just wondering what people thought, bare in mind I'm only looking to spend about £300 because i can't afford to pay £600 for a lush canon!
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-08-15 10:15 [#01954284]
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Wait until you can afford something like the Canon 350D which you can pick up new for 450.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-15 10:23 [#01954288]
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yeh pay the extra and go for the Canon. My girlfriend swears by hers.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 11:26 [#01954325]
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hehe well canon are th shit hehe but I'm impatient. I prolly will end up going for a canon, i mean I gotta save up yet but its nice to get an idea early!
thanks guys!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-15 11:42 [#01954341]
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prepare to spend money on good glass a good body with mediochre-shit glass is going to make you unhappy.
sacrifice a better body for better glass
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 11:43 [#01954344]
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glass? you mean lens right ?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-15 12:07 [#01954347]
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yes, sorry
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-08-15 12:23 [#01954352]
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hey guys i'm new to drinking
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-15 12:24 [#01954354]
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I'm not your girlfriend.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-15 12:41 [#01954366]
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yet
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 12:42 [#01954367]
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GET A ROOM!
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-08-15 12:50 [#01954375]
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Bollocks. You should never sacrifice on the body of a Digital SLR in favour of the 'glass'...the quality of the sensor is as important as the lense.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 12:52 [#01954376]
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thats why i like dthe look of the S9500 they seem to have put some real thought into the sensor!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 12:53 [#01954377]
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also I've no intention of spending loads on a cam and then loads on a bunch of different lenses, i like photography but i don't need a whole array of lenses for it!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-15 13:03 [#01954388]
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Wait until you're in Japan dude.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 13:04 [#01954393]
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thats where I'm gonna grab it. Cheaper out there :) They build em don't you know!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-15 13:11 [#01954401]
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Well then, you'll probably get some model we would either never see or wouldn't see for about 10 months and for about half the price.
Get me a 100" TV while you're there.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 13:13 [#01954402]
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OK but you'll ahve to work out how to sneak it on the plane as hand luggage ;)
actually i've been looking and for 100 yen (50p) i can get a mobile phone that ahs digital TV on it!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-15 13:15 [#01954404]
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ecnad, on a budget, a 350d or equiv will be PLENTY of sensor quality for him
go full frame and youll need primes anyway vignetting + full frame sensor = will multiply the flaws in cheaper glass faster than 1.6x crop sensor.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 13:17 [#01954406]
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LAZY_TITLE
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-15 13:27 [#01954416]
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no experience with that, sorry
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-08-15 13:30 [#01954419]
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Oh, I agree with that. I thought you were saying it would be OK going sub 350D level on the body for better lense quality.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-15 13:35 [#01954432]
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fuji compacts really suck. ha ha just look at that so called tilt screen, lol.
seriously tho, the 9500 looks pretty ok. but go to dpreview.com instead of fujifilm.com.
HUGE FUCKIN CAMERA
that said, i'd also say go for a 350d.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-15 13:37 [#01954438]
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please don't say 'lense'. it makes me itch.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-15 13:58 [#01954485]
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i think fuji is coming out with one that will do IR and UV as well.
That would be hot doing IR with cheap filters = introduces a lot of noise
i have yet to master it but then again ive only taken like 20 IR pictures total over the past couple years
need to start it again
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-15 14:38 [#01954522]
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IR is fuckin' sweet.
from what i've seen, modded canon G3 and G5's work really well for this.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-15 14:39 [#01954523]
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yeah exactely i dont have the funds to get a 10d or 300d and have it mod'd for IR only
but ffast shutter speed IR would be soooo lush
ugh 20second exposures make my nilly limp :(
tripod required :(
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 15:28 [#01954561]
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wtf is IR? Infra Red? Im a camera newb guys you ahve to bare that in mind, I'm new to all this hehe
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-15 15:46 [#01954575]
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yeah it's infrared.
http://www.kleptography.com/notes-irconvert.htm
http://www.pbase.com/polloloco81/infrared
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 16:00 [#01954578]
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BTW what is HDR, i found some amazingly nice pics using HDR i imagine its some sort fo filter?
LAZY_TITLE HDR
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-15 17:57 [#01954675]
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cameras have limited dynamic range (measured in stops of light)
to keep it simple pointing your camera at the sun the camera isn't going to capture all the detail in the highlights and the shadows
it only has a range it can account for
hdr takes 2 images (say, one image exposed for the highlights (bright sky), and another image exposed for the shadows (say, trees, shadows, etc)
then they are merged / layred on top of each other
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 18:24 [#01954683]
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ahhh, its ana amazing effect! gives real life to the pics!
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daLO
on 2006-08-15 18:27 [#01954684]
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yo
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-15 18:43 [#01954692]
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I'll have to look into having a go!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-16 09:35 [#01955180]
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I just found a Canon KISS with EF-S18-55mm F3.5-5.6 II USM lens on amazon jp for only £377! what a fucking bargain! I've no idea what the KISS is though it looks just like the EOS 300D
LAZY_TITLE
Buy my ixus and I'll get it when i arrive!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-16 09:37 [#01955183]
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no idea the kit lens is pretty soft (18-55) i'd suggest www.fredmiranda.com and www.dpreview.com
i really like the FM forums go to the reviews section and start reading i wouldn't buy anything right away spend a week or 2 just sifting thru
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-16 09:51 [#01955190]
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The KISS is actually the EOS 350D, admitedly teh lens isn't rated to high, but it might be a cheaper option untill i can afford a better lens than just buying the body, but then i dont know jack about lenses lol!
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mimi
on 2006-08-16 10:19 [#01955193]
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if you dont want to spend the money for a canon, get a pentax, i hear good things about the brand, though i shoot a canon myself.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-08-16 10:26 [#01955194]
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a good starter lens if you go with the canon tamron 28-75 2.8 sharp sharp sharp
build quality is OK, it's kinda loud AF, not the fastest AF (compared to L glass) but it is sharp as HELL
most of the photos on my image dump were taken with it can't beat it for the price, like $300
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-16 10:50 [#01955200]
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OOOOO Nikon D70 is only £270 BARGAIN!
So now I'm torn between... Canon EOS 350d£377 Nikon D70£270 Fujifilm S9500£300
/head explodes!
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2006-08-16 13:32 [#01955293]
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d70 vs 350d
canon and nikon are both good, they will give you lots of room to grow.
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