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sirmailbox
from chicago area (United States) on 2006-07-20 14:14 [#01940663]
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I've been using Reason for a couple of years, but there's one problem that I've never been able to overcome. Once in a while, I'll be using a really long sample -- maybe a sample of a guitar, for instance. For the sample to play, playback has to begin before the beginning of the sample. If I start playback in the middle of the sample, it doesn't play. Seeing as the sample might be a minute long, this can be really annoying. I'll want to listen to say, just the part of the song that is played during hte last ten seconds of the sample, but to hear the sample I've got to listen to the first fifty seconds, twiddling my thumbs.
I suppose a possible solution might be using recycle to break the sample into different rex slices, but I think there's a strict limit on how long rex loops can be. Plus that's sort of a cumbersome way of doing things. Is there any way to solve this problem?
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 16:02 [#01940775]
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unfortunately the only way that you're going to be able to hear that sample playback as you intend it to is to rewire Reason into a host DAW (such as Cubase, or Logic, or Digital Performer) and to have that guitar sample not being triggered in Reason through one of the samplers, but instead having it in the DAW as an audio track. that way the DAW will start playback whereever your Song Position Line is.
Reason in all honesty isn't really meant to be used with samples that long. (at least in my opinion) Reason was created from the mindset of "vintage" equipment...in the sense that most of the modules in the program are based around older equipment...would you ever have had an Akai S2000 loaded with a 2 or 3 minutre long sample? not really....you'd have used your sampler for small samples...as the name suggests.
i'm sorry i couldn't have helped you find a solution within Reason, but by rewiring it into something like Cubase then you'd be on your way to getting the workflow that you want :)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-20 16:25 [#01940784]
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I split a whole acapella up using Rex and it worked fine.
Just splice it up however you want, then load it into the NNXT. Then you can trigger each section as you want it:)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 16:27 [#01940787]
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ahh so there isn't a restriction on REX file length? :)
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-20 16:36 [#01940790]
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Well I didn't encounter one but that's not to say there isn't :)
There could be a limit on slices though.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2006-07-20 16:49 [#01940795]
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i think it's something like a 99 slice limit....but i don't ever remember there being a limit on how long those slices can be
if you're using ReCycle 2 to cut the sample though it'd be worth making sure that all the parameters are kept to zero (like the ADSR envelope and so on) else it'll end up fucking with your sound yeh?
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-07-20 17:41 [#01940830]
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Ive encountered the limit on slice numbers before which is fucking annoying. When ive had to use long samples I slice it every 4 bars or something like that, keeps it simple
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sirmailbox
from chicago area (United States) on 2006-07-20 22:59 [#01940928]
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Ok, guess I was wrong about the rex loop length limit. Thanks for the help guys
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OK
on 2006-07-22 01:47 [#01941436]
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