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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2006-07-02 18:09 [#01931211]
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Just so you know, VST pirating has killed the "Amateur IDM Genre", so if you're thinking about making another track with your Korg Triton sidechained to two FX buses with seperate instances of Glitch VST or otherwise (one of which has a nice Freeware compressor on it like Blockfish which really gets things to pump), try to sit down and listen to a some exotica... perhaps some Yma Sumac... and brace yourself for a rude interception of your tactless computer farts by far more interesting (see UNDERPRIVILAGED or MENTALLY AUGMENTATED (not by chemical means)) artists. Another common misconception among your types is the idea that money can buy TALENT and a right to open criticism of lauded or respected works. Sadly, this is not the case. You have to have been BEATEN as a small child, be japanese, had your parents killed professionally, or lie about the above things to be an interesting musician or to criticize the new PLAID or AUTECHRE albums. The memo is out, you are going to have to learn to play a theremin.
Signing off,
Jerky McMilkstain
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-07-02 18:11 [#01931213]
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boobs
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-02 18:12 [#01931214]
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Can't I just be some sort of aristocratic junkie fag, instead?
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2006-07-02 18:15 [#01931216]
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Vincent Gallo's cock is indeed fat. Far from a two-fister, though. I wonder who has a two-fist cock in the IDM game? When will the Plaster Casters get to Uwe Scmidt, William Basinski (I've heard he's hung like an exotic seamammal), or Luke Vibert?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-07-02 18:15 [#01931217]
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wtb
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-07-02 18:18 [#01931219]
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oh wait its james blunt innit
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2006-07-02 18:20 [#01931222]
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I can see from your buddy icon that you're beautiful. It's true. A little old for my tastes though... a little botox will surely flatten those unsightly spider-legs beside your eyeholes.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-02 18:59 [#01931225]
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All of idm is inferior to my beat boxing anyway. Though I am a complete master at the craft, I find it embarrassing to do in front of other people (so is similar to my existing). However in hour long car trips at night when nobody can see or hear me, the finest audio compositions ever produced are secretely crafted, heard only by me then lost forever.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-07-02 19:06 [#01931226]
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This is why I don't like idm....
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hobbes
from age on 2006-07-02 19:20 [#01931228]
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the man/woman has a point and i'm sure most of you know it.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-07-02 19:24 [#01931230]
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Yes, that's why I prefer straight up electro, techno or just an occasional braindance session. Good quality IDM is still cool in the right dosage though!
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staz
on 2006-07-02 19:28 [#01931231]
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there is no IDM, sorry
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-02 19:29 [#01931232]
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I don't really like IDM either. Well, autechres pretty good. But any kind of music that practically demands a computer always seems to inspire impractical wankery instead of musicality.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-07-02 19:53 [#01931235]
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man, i really gotta start making music so i can take offense to posts like this
i feel so left out
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-02 20:08 [#01931237]
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I love how someone gets published by a couple piddly labels and then they get to assume that they have every right to make sweeping generalizations about everybody that does the same thing that they do. Its not about making music for people to enjoy. Its about showing people how bid your dick is and then throwing faeces at them.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-07-02 20:12 [#01931239]
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Making music is a competition!!!!!!!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-07-02 20:15 [#01931240]
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hahah, yes.
khonnor is here to school us amateurs on how to make original, ground-breaking music like his! i'm glad i asked him how he does it.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-02 20:37 [#01931246]
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My gear has more rotary encoders than yours.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-07-02 20:49 [#01931250]
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!"#¤"¤&Q##/#!!!!
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2006-07-02 23:14 [#01931270]
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I made no claim of having released ground-breaking music. I'm saying is that VSTs are diminishing any interest in the tiny, unremarkable niche that many denizens of expert knob twiddlers and this board tend to occupy.
"But any kind of music that practically demands a computer always seems to inspire impractical wankery instead of musicality. "
There you go. That's what I was getting at.
"I love how someone gets published by a couple piddly labels
and then they get to assume that they have every right to make sweeping generalizations about everybody that does the
same thing that they do."
This is where you go awry (Correct me if I'm wrong here). I've released ONE album on a piddly label that I wrote at the age of 16 that is CRAP. Even so, it's praised by critics who don't know the meaning of GOOD computer music. AS A NOTE KIDS, slap vocals on a melodic IDM record and you can get reviewed in big-wig publications like NME too!
"khonnor is here to school us amateurs on how to make original, ground-breaking music like his! i'm glad i asked him how he does it. "
You're boring, I've never gotten along with you, and I have no intention of doing so but if you want lessons on how to make music, try listening to something like Raymond Scottt's "Manhattan Research Inc" whenever you reach for that burned and autographed copy of that one shitty netlabel release you did and start taking notes. I regard this as one of my favorite records so listen carefully. I know how much faith you have in my tastes and interests. Thanks so much for asking. May the chafe be with you.
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2006-07-02 23:20 [#01931271]
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I have the feeling I'm going to get rudely humbled in the rudest rudey rude way. But yes... Swear me off as the big asshole who doesn't like people's attitudes around here because I don't really come here often anyways. So long, cruel computer world!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-07-02 23:25 [#01931273]
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Calm down Khonnor! Make some music, it's much better than venting at anonymous twits.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-07-02 23:28 [#01931274]
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it's not 'CRAP' though. It's a nice listen to people that can't express themselves.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-07-02 23:32 [#01931275]
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Another common misconception among your types is the idea that money can buy TALENT and a right to open criticism of lauded or respected works. Sadly, this is not the case. You have to have been BEATEN as a small child, be japanese, had your parents killed professionally,
hahaahahhahahahahahahahahaha
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2006-07-02 23:34 [#01931276]
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I know. I've turned into a complete anus.
A halfways between pre-embittered old mandom and sideways wit.
I'm totally going to die prematuraly! Anyways, I've sent a message that is sure to get me permabanned so most folks won't have to deal with me again (unless I meet them in real life!).
I don't believe that people don't LIKE the album because I know they do. Heaps of people enjoy it...
But hopefully more capable music will come from this neck of the woods in the near future. It's been quite a while... and there are definite reasons for that.
The sheer amount of time away from the scene is sure to diminish any credibility I've had for said album, which is precisely what I was aiming for.
See you later, possibly!
-Bloodstain Harris
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-07-02 23:36 [#01931278]
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i feel inspired to make a track right now.
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2006-07-02 23:37 [#01931281]
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Make it good! How about a funny ballad, or some weird koto music.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-07-02 23:39 [#01931282]
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You'll be allright. Ignore the 'scene' it's rubbish. It's Jaded idiots and clueless fools.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-07-02 23:42 [#01931283]
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You need to control your hair! You look like 'dougie', a man that lives near my neighbours bin.
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2006-07-02 23:43 [#01931284]
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Quite a bit of boring shit too, eh?
Well... not much you can do but make better.
All I have to say is... the interenet has had a HUGE impact on the release of good, eclectic music in the past 6 years. I could write a whole fucking diatribe, but I'll save that for some future issue of Grooves Magazine or something. Counting the minutes till I be banned!
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-07-02 23:49 [#01931285]
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stop being an idiot.
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Fah
from Netherlands, The on 2006-07-02 23:49 [#01931286]
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hey sup khonnor, didn't know you were a part of xlt
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2006-07-02 23:50 [#01931287]
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Ok, Dicker. Enough's enough.
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disasemble
from United States on 2006-07-03 00:07 [#01931289]
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speaking on behalf of myself, having known khonnor for awhile now and having released music on labels and seeing what a complete joke idm (among other things, certainly not limited to) has turned into to, im going to side with khonnor, despite my need to be a good boy online and my disapproval of the method used.
my solution: design vsts that when used, a giant spike will shoot out of the computer screen and directly lodge itself into the users brain. three seconds later microsoft sam says "woops" and then "soy" because if you type "soy" into microsoft sam's text program its the creepiest sounding thing in the world.
though the more natural solution of nobody caring anymore about idm because most of it is god awfully bland and stale is killing it off quite nicely. at least we arent experiencing the late 90's boom of idm where acts like FIZZARUM somehow managed to get on DOMINO. whats with that shit.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-03 00:25 [#01931292]
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Well, the message was fine. It was the way he came across. When you are trying to make a point, it pretty much can and should be expected that comming across as a bitter eliteist douchebag is going to get you flamed.
I find "computer music" generally seems tasteless and uninspired, but I don't go yelling about that all the time (Well, I do sometimes, but only when someone starts talking shit about gear).
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-03 00:36 [#01931293]
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I guess what I mean is, people should feel free to do what they enjoy without being shit upon for it. If you enjoy shitting on people, by all means go ahead. But don't whine when people start shitting back at you.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-07-03 00:45 [#01931296]
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correct me if i'm wrong, but this is just trolling right? i don't really know what the point of this is, or how it is constructive..
what i do know is that a lot of amateur artists aren't signed or have releases because they haven't bothered to send anything out. some people are happy to do this shit for themselves. its stupid though, i mean so what if everyone has a thousand vst units on their p.c and are making crappy music? what about the guitar? how many people are there out there with a guitar? i'll bet theres more people with guitars than vsts. when more people are making music, its just easier to cream off the best.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-07-03 00:58 [#01931300]
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1. yes, you're "the big asshole who doesn't like people's attitudes around here because he doesn't really come here often anyways"
2. "VST pirating" wtf ? have you never stolen anything ?
3. the term "IDM" was invented by people like you
"Make some music, it's much better than venting at anonymous twits." - i second that, plus if you want to get banned - try a bit harder.
Congrats, you've made another person NOT listen to your music and tell their friends not to listen to khonnor.
bye
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-07-03 01:01 [#01931301]
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i have more buttons than you and impakt... so HAH,, bitcheazzess
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-07-03 01:04 [#01931302]
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feel the empty,listen the shit comes down
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staz
on 2006-07-03 01:33 [#01931309]
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i still don't know what "IDM" is, to be honest
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-03 01:58 [#01931317]
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Are you sure about that?
Hmmm. Well, maybe so. But I have more rotary encoders than you. And more sampling memory. (and as soon as I get my virus, more polyphony and timbres).
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staz
on 2006-07-03 02:03 [#01931318]
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i have about £76,000 worth of just analogue gear, tone generators and army scramblers alone, mate, relax!
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-07-03 02:04 [#01931319]
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yeah,you know it...and better not to think about it
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-03 02:07 [#01931320]
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Pics or STFU
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staz
on 2006-07-03 02:10 [#01931321]
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after getting all that gear you too would be hard pressed to afford a fucking camera
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-03 02:16 [#01931323]
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LOL...
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2006-07-03 02:50 [#01931329]
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there's no reason to be angry, there will always be good music and bad music.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2006-07-03 02:59 [#01931334]
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shut up damn hippie
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-07-03 03:02 [#01931336]
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none of my programs take vsts so ill take the moral high ground on this one
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