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This thread sucks. |
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what's VST? what's IDM? |
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I have a lot of rock-n-roll mates that likes your first album Khonnor :) |
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who is khonnor? |
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everyone critisizes idm but have a secret love affair with it. I bet khonnors harddrive is oozing with bland netlabel releases. and i also second the question: who is khonnor? |
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what the fuck is this fucking shit, it fucking stinks like shit |
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it must be shit |
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khonnor should start coming to #// |
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it's john khonnor, dude ! |
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Your foster parents are dead. Who is Khonnor? |
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i dont know. who is khonnor? he sounds crap |
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this not kho |
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John Connor is, in the future, leader of the human Tech-Com forces in their war against the machines led by Skynet. |
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killed the "Amateur IDM Genre" The only people that listen to "Amateur IDM" are Amateur IDM musicians themselves, so why do you care? ...ohhhhhh, right, I get it. |
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hey this is fun! |
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If I wasn't in work, on my lunch break, I'd be jerking off to this thread. |
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On the "subject" however. Why does it matter how people create their music? Surely you wouldn't turn down good music on the basis it was created using VSTs and not authentic hardware? To me, the process isn't waht matters it's the end result. I may want hardware but I know it won't make my music better. It'll just make it more fun to create. Some people like using VSTs others like hardware. Myself, I like to try any way to create music. |
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yeah once again... thanks for saving me the trouble of writing that. khonnor - i'm sorry you're having some sort of mini-crisis or whatever it is you're doing here. but you've always come across as a totally juvenile, arrogant prick to me. that's my problem with you. sorry that i don't respond well to arrogance... what can i say. good luck with your music journalism career - i'm sure pitchfork will hire you. |
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The cheap and easy availability of paper and pencils has ruined the art scene. The barrier to entry is too low, and too many artists are scribbling! It's horrible! We need to return to a time when an artist needed a patron to purchase expensive art supplies. That will keep the art world Pure. |
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who b8 him? |
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or is it a 'special' secret |
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Most mods are online, it's an IDM virtual murder mystery, whodunnit??? Unless he asked for his account to be removed. Which is understandable. |
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It wasn't me, but it's funny though. ''Fans'' of music can be awfully annoying sometimes. |
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In the words of Shaggy, "It wasn't me!" |
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there's a Shaggy (tm) for every occasion! |
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in the words of Shaggy, "your body's bangin', out of controooool!!" I didn't ban the loveable little IDM twirp either! was this a case of Phobiastic Intervention..? |
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I thought he'd jumped ship. Hasn't been seen for a while.... |
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idm cluedo |
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he was online when I posted that, I think. |
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fuck I sound like tridenti there |
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BUSTED!! |
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I even liked handwriting, man from the anthill sort of gave me chills. khonnor doesnt like my music though. i guess its impossible to think that ANYONE actually creates music because they WANT TO, eh khonnor? idm or whatever you want to call it was the thing that got me into music to begin with. it's all just music man, and while debussy and mozart may have been better composers/musicians than what some idm amateurs are spitting out, that doesnt mean they arent putting as much soul into it.. its all about da soul brothah. |
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i agree on the VST thing. |
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though i dont place "amateur idm" below or above any other "amateur" area of music, idm has the disadvantage of primarily being nerdy people that often times try to upload their tracks, unlike your random garage indie rock band who will stay in the garage (more often). most idm artists download cracked software, so putting it online at some point is incredibly likely. so everyone wants to make it, which is fine by me. if someone likes doing what they do, great. but a good portion of these people want to release it too. and most of these artists, while i respect that they want to do it, just copy existing techniques that are considered "idm" and think this will get them somewhere. amen snare rushing, excessive granular work, etc. and it might have back when idm was HOTSHIT, but not now. so it was incredibly saturated at some point. which you can say for most genres overall at some point, but "idm" is in worse shape because its predominately online and people download it (merck: dead, neo ouija: dead, warp: maximo park) and they dont buy it because not a whole lot of new releases are even that good. and people got spoiled with it, myself included. for a long time it seemed like things wouldn't even slow down, but it picked up so much momentum and it collapsed on itself. so now we have saviors like "the flashbulb" and "wisp", who do the same exact techniques, only they are mildly better at it and have releases on SUBLIGHT: The post apocalyptic idm label for artists who cant release anywhere else because nobody wants to release or distribute idm anymore. |
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Hmmm. I have to dissagree. I get spammed by more rock bands through myspace and more metal bands through soulseek. Idm is just the trendy form of music to hate on nowadays, because it picked up with such momentum, like you said, and seemed like an ineqaustable source of innovation for a long time. But heres whats funny. All the people who were late getting into the game and thinking its innovative, are now the people who are late getting in the game of hating on it. So, by now, anybody who goes on one of those rants of self realization are only proving themselves to be out of touch once again. |
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Bet you a dollar he's going to go on some big rant about ninja tune next. |
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And then brag about the great electrotrash music he has been making. |
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i was fine with what you said entirely until you started being a jerk about it and assuming things out right. theres really no need for that, okay? i dont think idm is trendy to hate (though some do it), its not a journalistic publicity match going on in here. i just hear loads of uninspired stuff. and if you noticed i said there is no genre exempt of this sort of behavior, and i agree with you overall except minor details so why exactly are you attacking me? i like ninjatune and what it releases most of the time. and i dont make electroclash, and i dont care for much of it. i dont even know why you assumed i would have anything to do with it. WHAT IN GODS NAME IS GOING ON HERE TAXIDERMIST! |
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it's not that hard really, though. I can pretty much distinguish between the music I like, and the stuff I don't like. but there's so much of it now, some might say. there was a huge amount of it a few years back, not even including the whole pre-IDM electronic scene. I mean, I could've never listened to everything being released then plus what already had been released, and now there's just more I can't ever listen to. practically it doesn't change anything, ofcourse. most of what I hear I won't like, but then there'll be something nice, or even great and that's fine. I guess I don't really see the problem - so people dislike what is being put out, maybe the genre of "IDM" will die out. so be it. something "new" will come along. |
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I think it was directed to khonnor not to you. |
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ah yeah, its possible! it seemed like it was directed at me so i apoligize if it wasnt. and qrter, as it stands im in complete agreement with you. its not a dictating factor for me much. my post made it seem like i think it all sucks, but it doesnt. i dont see a giant problem in idm that i dont see anywhere else, its just more obvious to me because its very internet-centric in its nature as of late. |
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khonnor makes a lot of good points personally i don't think you should be able to even listen to idm unless you own the hardware tb303s + ms20 + 808 the noise to signal ratio is way out in this genre anyone with reason can produce a track that their mates can enjoy @ the end of a night on cake its turning into a fucking amateur appreciation fest |
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personally i don't think you should be able to even listen to idm unless you own the hardware tb303s + ms20 + 808 audiobulb will be out of business soon then. great. |
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nope - the cd sales keep flooding in |
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disasemble made some good points, and I agree with him. If xltronic were an indie rock messageboard we'de probably be having this exact same arguement about how everyone thinks they're the next nirvana or arctic monkeys. When you get deep in something, it gets a bit stale. Ok so there was an overdrive of idm artists which crashed the genre up a bit, I'll bet theres some death metal net labels that are saying the same thing. The issue is population and internet access. Music artists, novelists, painters, photographers, designers, the list goes on and on, we're all having trouble as artists (if we're artists) to make something that hasn't been made yet and then get heard. I don't think idm is dead, maybe just overpopulated. It's a great feeling when you're sifting through some labels (major or net) to find something new and fresh, and you come across an artist that you really enjoy. It's a great find. So let us begin... THE HUNT FOR IDM. |
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oh gosh who gives a shit. threads like this are a great example of the downside of Music Scenes, electronic or otherwise. |
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heh, why discuss music when you could just listen to it. :) |
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I found it! |
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Some people made some good points. A few people made no points. A few of them have no point, and possibly no penis either. My point is probably quite uninteresting but it is that I'll continue to make up my mind whether I like something on its own merits and independently of whether it might or might not be deemed "good" or "well done" by someone who isn't me. The best point was made by Nietzsche when he said "come on you cunts lets have some aphex acid". |
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"come on you cunts lets have some aphex acid" I think we can end this thread on that note. |
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