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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-03 15:46 [#01931756]
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Hey, come on you cunts lets have some Aphex acid!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-07-03 15:47 [#01931758]
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Tridenti
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-03 15:48 [#01931759]
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:)
i thought khonnor was being funny/ironic
it never translates well though - see my post!!
@ the end of the day - the quality comes from the talented obsessives who work on their music day in and have been playing musical intruments since an early age....
just like in footy - lots of people enjoy it and play it.... but the job of labels is to pick the most talented 11....
VSTs and cheaper sequencer / sampler packages have brought the methods and the emasns ot more people... its a good thing...
but some will be pushing on and that is always what music needs....
history of music shows that there are cycles/trends that come as original or hybrid breakthroughts > get copied and interpretated > go down in popularity > get reinterpreted and come back hybrid again
DO your thing people
with waht ever
how ever you want to :)
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-03 15:49 [#01931760]
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Just to let you know, I love you.
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-03 15:52 [#01931761]
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Ti amo ugualmente - sempre
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-07-03 16:46 [#01931774]
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i wanna learn to play electric guitar.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-03 16:47 [#01931776]
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NO!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-07-03 16:52 [#01931780]
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yer not the boss of me! i'm going right out and buying a Squire and you can't stop me!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-03 16:54 [#01931782]
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I didn't say you couldn't buy a guitar.
oh do pay attention..
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-07-03 17:13 [#01931800]
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actually i meant i'd hire a nobleman attendant who ranks lower than me in feudal hierarchy. One who has not only shod horses but can also play the lute. from my new squire i would learn to play stringed instruments and my horse would gallop on the finest shoes in the land.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-07-03 17:57 [#01931818]
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i agree with khonnor that using vsts of that sort is bullshit and lazy
i dont agree with room that you have to spend money on gear to be a good artist, i was just talking about this with someone, on the subject of someone else messaging me to ask what software i use.
even if you have the biggest music studio in the world it doesnt mean shit if you arent a good composer, and vise versa, someone can just be working fruity loops but if they know what theyre doing and have the music in them they can do pretty fuckin amazing things
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-07-03 18:01 [#01931822]
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it's true. FSOL have a huge stack of gear but it didn't prevent 'The Isness.'
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-03 18:16 [#01931830]
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oh okay then.. go on..
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-03 18:38 [#01931841]
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weee the internet.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-03 19:11 [#01931849]
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rock music is in a far more dire state. i'd rather listen to wanky free vsts being shoved over a drumbeat by stoned 15 year olds than another boring rock song, yes.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-04 01:02 [#01931893]
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I am sorry. I meant that towards Khoner. I never liked that kid. He used to spam the shit out of IDM messageboards. He always used to ask people what the best VST plugins were too. It just seems idiotic of him to pull a richard d james and start insulting people and denouncing the genre and saying that people are bad for doing the exact same thing that he did. I also remember him trying to do the whole kid 606 thing by bringing up how young he was over and over again.
It wouldn't be so bad, if Khonor just wasn't so untimely about it. Being a self rightous hypocrite is one thing, but at least direct it at something that has some relevance. Even making a rant about emo would have seemed more original (or worth 100+ responses).
As far as the Ninja Tune comment went, I still think they are good too, but a lot of people feel that they have worn out their welcome, and are using the same kind of tricks and mood over and over again.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-04 01:08 [#01931894]
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So, what. By that logic I am only allowed to listen to hip hop because I own an MPC and a Nord Lead?
Anyways. Evolvers are far more IDM than any of those synths combined. I own an evolver. Does that put me more ahead of the game than others? No.
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-04 01:18 [#01931896]
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> like i said it was a too heavy dose of irony
> music is good if it is good > regardless of process
i think the equipment comparisons come it because people want to understand (which is fine) and compete (which is sad to a degree) in making the best sound....
Having said that Leenon & McCartney did a lot of good work through "competition"
IDM is definately a genre where the "gear" is wrongly given more status than the talent.... and the talent should = both what you do & when you do it....
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-04 01:21 [#01931897]
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I think people might be interested in seeing where this discussion has gone over here.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-07-04 01:25 [#01931898]
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Got you. The internet is going to kill sarcasm.
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-04 01:30 [#01931900]
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yep :)
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-07-04 02:08 [#01931908]
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oh boy,this thread still alive..yeah,idm is here to stay
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-04 02:13 [#01931909]
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this thread is still poopoo.
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2006-07-04 02:31 [#01931911]
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For the love of god who is khonner?
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staz
on 2006-07-04 02:42 [#01931912]
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competition in music is very good.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-04 02:44 [#01931913]
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khonnor is ghey
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-04 03:13 [#01931925]
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That's a perfect italian!
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room
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-04 15:23 [#01932212]
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naturalmente - sono qui a prego
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-04 15:43 [#01932234]
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Let's all just agree that no one is ever going to like this genre ever again because it has gone up it's own arse, and we can all listen to proper music instead.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-07-04 16:16 [#01932266]
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It's a good job no one gave that cunt similar advice about rehashing a dead genre like Shoegazing or he'd never have made that cunting record.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-07-04 16:25 [#01932274]
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-04 16:52 [#01932284]
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It's sad really isn't it. How all these sad fuckers can only appreciate music made with the latest VST's, that are really "complicated" and rip off aphex or autechre in some way. Pathetic.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-07-04 17:22 [#01932298]
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laptop music can be great. In the right hands. Like aphex, Luke, etc.. Flim is laptop. You like flim? Come toDaddy had to be on a computer. Drukqs probably was too.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-07-04 17:24 [#01932300]
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Beacephalous bouncing ball pretty much owned all glitch wankey music before it even happened.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-04 17:26 [#01932301]
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No girls, no fun, no glamour, no heart, fuck it.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-07-04 17:29 [#01932304]
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I like khonnor (Oi, are you looking at my glitch), even after all this shocking, shocking behavior.
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Bill Burroughs
from Colombia on 2006-07-05 01:37 [#01932432]
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Allow me to rudely humble you in the rudest rudey rude way. Dear Khonnor/Madam, and the two or three little gnomes that constantly lick your white Hi-Techs,
you clearly are attempting some sort of lame post-ironic denial about your bitterness towards people who will always be more talented, interesting and significant than yourself, and furthermore the small amount of 'music' you have released is almost unanimously considered to be stenching disposable excrement around these parts.
Yours sincerely, A. Cunt.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-07-05 12:46 [#01932609]
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zing!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-07-05 12:50 [#01932611]
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I love and admire Bill Burroughs, and when I find out "who" he is, I will marry him, in a same (hardcore) sex wedding.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-07-05 13:06 [#01932623]
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well, i guess that wraps up another thread here at xltronic.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-07-05 13:12 [#01932626]
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you won this thread, honest.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-05 13:31 [#01932636]
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I forgot how to read
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-05 13:34 [#01932640]
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why the fuck is this thread still going?!?!?!!
WHO IS KHONNOR?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-07-05 13:42 [#01932648]
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i smell a dupe account. dog_belch could only love himself this deeply.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-07-05 13:44 [#01932649]
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Nah, different styles....dog_belch writes like a old raver version of Boris Johnson, and Bill Burroughs writes like.......
a twat.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-07-05 13:45 [#01932651]
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well, you're certainly the real thing, what with the ignorance.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-07-05 13:45 [#01932652]
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Nah, I don't think so. Dog_belch loves Woofter deeply as well.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-07-05 13:45 [#01932653]
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face it Bill. Swears is the greatest.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-07-05 13:51 [#01932656]
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Bill's erudite, well connected shit slinging is unique, and for that reason I love him. And hos satin action pants.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2006-07-05 14:02 [#01932660]
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whoever's ghost writing for you, qrter, fire them.
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