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give me the low down on dubstep, grime etc
 

offline lucifer on 2006-06-26 15:25 [#01927751]
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These uk genre namedroppings that keep popping up
everywhere in electronicaland, can someone tell me what it
is about?

I can't be bothered googling for this, since you lot prolly
are experts anyway!

What is the bpm in dubstep and grime, is there a difference
between the lot? Which are the main artists?

thanks you


 

online big from lsg on 2006-06-26 15:35 [#01927756]
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if you have to ask you won't understand


 

offline lucifer on 2006-06-26 15:41 [#01927759]
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you are an asshole

but probably right

question is, do I want to understand? Is it good?


 

online big from lsg on 2006-06-26 15:46 [#01927761]
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i was just kidding

listen to pinch - qawalli, it's the ultimate dubstep track
and for me it has all the elements of dubstep
it's a sub-sub genre, the subgenre being grime/2step, i
think, dub comes from the raggea genre which uses samples
for the melodic content or something

i think dubstep is best described as slow drum 'n' bass


 

offline lucifer on 2006-06-26 17:28 [#01927815]
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thank you, will soulseek the recommendation


 

offline lucifer on 2006-06-26 17:34 [#01927817]
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wow nobody is sharing the track.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-06-26 17:42 [#01927818]
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dubstep a very easy sound to identify, the bpm is probably
around 90, 2 step style drum patterns, lots of spring
reverb, various dub type samples and some typical jungle or
more electronic samples too, and really low fat pulsing
bass. example


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-06-27 03:11 [#01927957]
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88bpm, 2 step kick, with a clap on the 3rd 16th, menacing
rolling bass and cheesy high pitched lead.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2006-06-27 03:16 [#01927958]
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Has stepdub been invented yet? If not, I think I'll have a
go at it..


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-27 10:29 [#01928197]
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Best two dubstep tracks yet:

Skream - "Midnite request Line"

Digital Mystikz - "Misty Winter"


 

offline vveerrgg from life (Canada) on 2006-06-27 11:29 [#01928232]
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so what is grime about anyways? a friend of mine took me to
a grime nite and i didn't hear anything that remotely
sounded like it could be called grime.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-27 12:20 [#01928254]
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There's a compilation album called "Run the Road" which is
pretty comprehensive.


 

online big from lsg on 2006-06-27 12:26 [#01928263]
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sweet use of 8bit on request line :)


 

online big from lsg on 2006-06-27 12:27 [#01928264]
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recognise what the gun is from?


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-27 12:28 [#01928266]
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Yeah, I got it on vinyl, I'll never be able to play it out
though, on the rare occasions I get to play a proper set,
it's all about electro/house etc, so it's way too slow.....

:(


 

online big from lsg on 2006-06-27 12:28 [#01928269]
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does all the other dubstep sound a bit less 'grown up'
compared to burial?


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-27 12:29 [#01928272]
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I dunno, doom3 or something? lol


 

online big from lsg on 2006-06-27 12:33 [#01928275]
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don't you have a good set-up at home? (i envy you have a
vinyl player)
when i say dance music it doesn't mean you actually have to
dance, most people in the discotheque don't either, it's the
atmosphere that's important. like boomkat says:
Burial's sonic and geographic roots in an anonymous south
London location are clearly apparent in the subterranean
blues of opener 'Distant lights', affecting the synapses
with MDMA singed pads floating over an impossibly slinky
2-step syncopation and luscious diva lick, summoning lost
feelings for mid-late 90's rave dystopia.


 

online big from lsg on 2006-06-27 12:34 [#01928278]
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lol, i actually have no idea, i once recognised a sample on
smashing pumpkins and that was doom, lol


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-27 12:40 [#01928284]
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Are we talking about skream or burial, here?
Anyway, there has been a lot of talk about all this dubstep
stuff being like the ghost of London's nineties dance music
scene coming back to haunt us..I dunno. I like the way
burial will mix up refrences like making a 2step beat with
photek-style sword clashing samples, or whatever.


 

online big from lsg on 2006-06-27 12:40 [#01928285]
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when i say dance i was referring to this original dubstep
thread:
http://xltronic.com/mb/89532/burial-burial-hyperdub


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-06-27 12:43 [#01928288]
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I have cheap, shitty decks, pretty good headphones and
average speakers. I can't really play music too loud or the
neighbours will complain.


 

online big from lsg on 2006-08-09 06:13 [#01950975]
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digital mystikz - earth a run red sounds good to me


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-09 06:45 [#01950990]
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that's a fucking awesome track


 

online big from lsg on 2006-08-09 08:26 [#01951030]
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thank you, i didn't make it though


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-09 08:42 [#01951036]
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yes you did


 

online big from lsg on 2006-08-09 08:45 [#01951039]
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hihi

this of my other alias is nice too:
http://www.discogs.com/release/250298

el-b is burials big inspiration


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2006-08-09 08:54 [#01951043]
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the emo of the elctronic world.


 

online big from lsg on 2006-08-09 09:44 [#01951076]
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nooooooooooooooooo


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-09 10:09 [#01951093]
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Check this out, not out yet but it blatantly will
be at some point, being utterly hammered by everyone at the
minute. Loefah and Sgt Pokes under their "asbo" alias
(haha). Myspace ruins it a bit with the 96k encoding, but if
you can play this LOUD and deep then please do so. And wait
for the drop about 2:15. Wooaahhhhhhhh

I think the reason a lot of people don't like dubstep (or
haven't bothered to dig a bit deeper) is that they haven't
really heard it. I mean, the sub is pretty much the focal
point of the track, if your speakers aren't putting out that
bass weight then you're literally missing a lot of the
track. Oh and ceri, it's nowhere near that slow! Try mixing
a few tracks with some minimal techno, usually works out
between 132 and 140. Gor blimey, give you lot a bit of
halfstep and you lose the ability to count :P

Grime is different and the "scenes" as they are actually
seem to be separating. Although you do get stuff by people
like SNO and MRK1 and that doing great crossover stuff.
Grime's bass isn't usually as upfront, you tend to get more
harsh synths and helium-vox samples, less "atmosphere" i
suppose. Well not less really, just different. Oh yeah, and
there's the MCing! Dubstep doesn't really do that, it's just
space ape, pokes and crazy d really. Grime sounds like it's
got a fucking problem and will mess you up if you look at it
wrong, dubstep's more of a friendly thing, you don't tend to
get the same aggression.

Rambled enough now, blah blah


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-09 10:13 [#01951095]
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sorry wrong thread, I thought you wanted the down low!


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-09 13:50 [#01951260]
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grime/dubstep, all sux


 

online big from lsg on 2006-08-09 13:55 [#01951262]
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did you become too arrogant after you got a gf or were you
always?


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-09 13:56 [#01951263]
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ha
i just dont like any of it.


 

online big from lsg on 2006-08-09 13:58 [#01951264]
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that's better, i guess


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-09 14:01 [#01951265]
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[i]apparently, [/i] burial is good. i havent warmed to it
yet.


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-08-09 14:02 [#01951267]
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you forget that grime mc's all suck.


 

online big from lsg on 2006-08-09 14:06 [#01951268]
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yeayea its ok you dont like it and you can say it sux
you just seem a bit too sure of yourself often to me,
actually ive thought this since the modern british life
thread, but i forgive you and such


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-09 14:06 [#01951269]
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yeah i was gonna say, the tempo is definitely usually around
140.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-09 14:08 [#01951270]
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How? I don't see any similarities at all.


 

online big from lsg on 2006-08-09 14:28 [#01951280]
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nono, i was gonna say that


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-08-09 15:15 [#01951322]
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That is a very nice 12" and el-b is an excellent music man
dude. Have you heard any of the ghost stuff biggles? El-b's
tracks with J Da Flex, ace if you like the 2-step side of
things. Gemini project and artwork are well worth checking
too, and groove chronicles, although they can go a bit too
cheese for my liking. There was a wicked 12" released last
month as well, "can't wait" by a guy called johnny dark...
borrows from that garagey sound but all crispy and
mechanical-sounding, nice and cold and funky and stuff.
Really fucking good, i think they've got samples up at
bleep.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-09 15:17 [#01951323]
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what's your problem?


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-09 15:28 [#01951331]
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Yeah, Johnny Dark is awesome.
I really wanna get that vinyl.


 

online big from lsg on 2006-08-09 15:36 [#01951338]
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that you stole my words, first belb and now you :(


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-09 15:40 [#01951340]
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Johnny Dark Listen


 

online big from lsg on 2006-11-12 06:23 [#02001045]
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just kidding duder

anyhoo:
this beat on horsepower productions - sholay is mighty fine


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-12 06:28 [#02001047]
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Around 140 bpm


 

online big from lsg on 2006-11-12 06:30 [#02001049]
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halftime though


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-12 09:57 [#02001082]
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True


 


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